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Title: The rational thinker versus the paranoid
Source: Dr. Kenneth A. Rahn, Sr
URL Source: http://www.kenrahn.com/jfk/conspira ... l_thinker_versus_paranoid.html
Published: Aug 17, 2007
Author: Dr. Kenneth A. Rahn, Sr
Post Date: 2007-08-17 11:09:58 by Mister Clean
Keywords: paranoid, truther, neocons
Views: 852
Comments: 92

The rational thinker versus the paranoid

Presented with the same evidence for a mystery, the rational thinker and the paranoid respond very differently.

The rational thinker	The paranoid
1. Checks the evidence carefully and doesn’t rely on uncertain evidence	1. Grabs onto a few pieces of evidence and defends them inflexibly.
2. Doesn’t care which evidence he must let go.	2. Seemingly irrationally seizes onto something and won’t let go.
3. Seeks a realistic answer in simple and familiar processes.	3. Invokes complex, unrealistic scenarios controlled by powerful forces behind the scenes.
4. Accepts only what he can critically assess (falsifiable ideas).	4. Deals in explanations that can never be critically assessed (unfalsifiable theories).
5. Is willing to live with unresolved explanations for long periods.	5. Demands quick, even immediate explanations.
6. Accepts the roles of chance and human foibles.	6. Invents scenarios when nothing ever goes wrong.
7. Uses same rational approach in the rest of his life.	7. Approaches many other “events” in the same irrational, paranoid way. (i.e., both people are consistent across their lives.)
8. Finds empowering explanations.	8. Feels powerless before these huge forces (victims).
9. Accepts all demonstrated evidence.	9. Will not face evidence that destroys his theory.
10. Is willing to live with some fraction of unexplained or contradictory evidence.	10. Insists on fitting everything into his explanation, often by explaining difficult items as further evidence of conspiracy.
11. Tries to keep everything in proportion.	11. Often seizes single pieces of evidence and blows them out of proportion.
12. Will change ideas a new evidence emerges.	12. Sticks to preconceived notion regardless of new evidence.
13. Open, flexible, empowered, strong.	13. Preconceived, rigid, victimlike, cowardly.

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#13. To: Mister Clean (#0)

A couple of observations here.

You are obviously obsessed with the 911 truth movement. I say this because I see you spending hours on line every day shilling the Republican talking points on this subject. No other proof is necessary. If you doubt me, just call up your posts here.

Given that this dedicated shilling for the GOP side of the arguments exists, and it does, my question is why?

Why should you care if people question what the government tells them? This seems very healtyth to me and I actively encourage it. If the government tells me something, I try to verify it before swallowing it - because I have caught them lying to me in the past. From my perspective, it seems the more eyes on this matter the better. I am very happy to see people questioning every single ascpect of the event. There are some fishey parts of the story.

Are you pushing the theory that the goverment must be trusted in all cases and that fact checking is evil? Or are you worried that this fact checking might injure the Repulbican Party in the upcoming elections - the party you obviously shill for.

Your crap about this just being entertainment is obviously false. You invest too much time and effort in it for that. You lack the sense of irony and humor that others exhibit when they are just having fun. You are obviously dead serious about your shilling.

Give the above, it's pretty clear that you oppose the 911 truth movement because it harms the Republican Party.

...  posted on  2007-08-17   11:56:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Other interests besides the Republican Party may have an interest in squelching and discrediting dissent on 9/11. The military-industrial complex, for one.

aristeides  posted on  2007-08-17   14:01:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Other interests besides the Republican Party may have an interest in squelching and discrediting dissent on 9/11. The military-industrial complex, for one.

From the table above...

3. Invokes complex, unrealistic scenarios controlled by powerful forces behind the scenes.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-08-17   15:17:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Nothing far fetched about the MIC.

Even Eisenhower warned about the power.

What is it with you? Do you believe everything the Goobers say? Such a state worshipper.

I know, you're going to deny it.

But, it's sad I got sucked into posting to you. You offer nothing constructive on any level and constantly disparage and badmouth all.

swarthyguy  posted on  2007-08-17   16:21:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Nothing far fetched about the MIC.

I never said there was.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-08-17   16:52:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

That's exactly what I mean; as Bush mentioned once, crawdaddying all over the place. You derided what may be the motives and interests of the MIC in manipulating public information, yet you now claim that the MIC is not farfetched which was a reasonable inference from your citing that item from the list in the column.

Just an aside, you may wish to reread the list; those who are investigating and digging into the lies around 11/9 actually fall more into the reasonable and rational columns than those who constantly disparage their quest for more information about the whole sordid episode.

It's not as if you offer any defense of the Government approved Conspiracy Scenario, you just badmouth any efforts to investigate its veracity.

It's a real juvenile method of interacting on internet forums, which as you maybe claimed are worthless and ineffectual, (don't want to make you deny something you never claimed, I don't, no sir) when your posting "style" just makes you a gadfly, akin to a fly in a room that one gets tired of trying to swat and then simply ignores, sometimes by putting a small piece of rotten fruit for it to alight upon, gorging itself and not buzzing around in irritating but ultimately harmless and thankfully ineffectual motions.

swarthyguy  posted on  2007-08-17   17:07:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

That's exactly what I mean; as Bush mentioned once, crawdaddying all over the place. You derided the what may be the motives and interests of the MIC in manipulating public information, yet you now claim that the MIC is not farfetched which was a reasonable inference from your citing that item from the list in the column.

There is no conflict in acknowledging the existence of the military industrial complex and ridiculing the noting that they could be trying to attack 9/11 "truth" on Internet message boards.

The "truth" movement is full of morons and clowns who discredit themselves far more effectively than some organized campaign could.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-08-17   17:10:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Well, then, what're you doing? Dismembering the discredited 911 movement.

What're you afraid of...it'll have some Jesus like resurrection and return from the dead.

Will it attack like a reborn zombie?

He, you seem awfully concerned about a movement that's on it's last legs.

Thing is, you guys can't even leave well enough alone - the 119 Official Story has been enshrined - the Cover Up worked - yet you still get your knickers in a twist about a few "oddball" websites that deride the Party Line.

So, if it's that stupid a movement, why bother to discredit it anymore. Consider that antics like yours lend credence that even after 6 years, the mere shining of any light upon the events causes you enough concern that you have to go after the guys holding the flashlight.

swarthyguy  posted on  2007-08-17   17:17:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

So, if it's that stupid a movement, why bother to discredit it anymore.

I'm trying to "wake people up" to the lunacy known as the 9/11 "truth" movement.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-08-17   18:16:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Consider us "awakened".

Now, where's that damn snooze button.

As they used to say on another website, he has an agenda.

Why not just ignore the movement if they're the lunatic nuts you attest.

Giving them attention helps them grow.

Why're you helping the Truthers?

swarthyguy  posted on  2007-08-17   18:34:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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