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Title: Breaking:The 9/11 Conspiracies is on now
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URL Source: http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/august2007/200807hitpiece.htm
Published: Aug 20, 2007
Author: honway
Post Date: 2007-08-20 21:16:08 by honway
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http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/august2007/200807hitpiece.htm

A documentary entitled The 9/11 Conspiracies, to be aired on the History Channel this evening, may represent the biggest hit piece to date on the 9/11 truth movement and is rife with bias, cronyism and conflicts of interest. Subscribe to *9-11*

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#16. To: Arator (#15)

Those are the young Hearst suck ass punks at popular Mechanics.

Mark

"I was real close to Building 7 when it fell down... That didn't sound like just a building falling down to me while I was running away from it. There's a lot of eyewitness testimony down there of hearing explosions. [..] and the whole time you're hearing "boom, boom, boom, boom, boom." I think I know an explosion when I hear it... — Former NYC Police Officer and 9/11 Rescue Worker Craig Bartmer

Kamala  posted on  2007-08-20   22:25:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Kamala (#16)
(Edited)

Those are the young Hearst suck ass punks at popular Mechanics.

Featuring a punk ass kid as their top "expert" makes the program even more of a laughingstock.

Check out my blog, America, the Bushieful.

Arator  posted on  2007-08-20   22:28:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Zipporah (#7)

Here is one. The aircraft SANDBLASTED off 80,000 square feet of all the fireproofing from the floors of the fires.

Mark

"I was real close to Building 7 when it fell down... That didn't sound like just a building falling down to me while I was running away from it. There's a lot of eyewitness testimony down there of hearing explosions. [..] and the whole time you're hearing "boom, boom, boom, boom, boom." I think I know an explosion when I hear it... — Former NYC Police Officer and 9/11 Rescue Worker Craig Bartmer

Kamala  posted on  2007-08-20   22:29:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Kamala (#16)

Is Jim Meigs another closet gay GOPer?

Check out my blog, America, the Bushieful.

Arator  posted on  2007-08-20   22:30:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Kamala (#18)

Here is one. The aircraft SANDBLASTED off 80,000 square feet of all the fireproofing from the floors of the fires.

Thats ridiculous

Zipporah  posted on  2007-08-20   22:31:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Arator (#17)

The only reason History Channel has this on, is because they have no control over the internet. And I think most of their audience can't watch videos or are too clueless to figure it out.

They are a day and dime short.

Swimming around in my bourbon highball.....

PercyDovetonsils  posted on  2007-08-20   22:31:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: honway (#14)

I posted a video of an interview of the Shankesville mayor some time ago..not sure where it was uploaded.. I'll try to locate it.

Zipporah  posted on  2007-08-20   22:33:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: honway (#14)

Here is the interview: Shanksville Mayor says no plane debris at Flight 93 crash site.

Zipporah  posted on  2007-08-20   22:36:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Arator (#19)

Is Jim Meigs another closet gay GOPer?

I'd say that closet door is wiiiiide open.

"I'd like to live just long enough to be there when they cut off your head and stick it on a pike as a warning to the next ten generations that some favors come with too high a price." Vir Cotto, Babylon 5

orangedog  posted on  2007-08-20   22:38:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Arator (#19)

Everytime either one is shown, my skin crawls.

Mark

"I was real close to Building 7 when it fell down... That didn't sound like just a building falling down to me while I was running away from it. There's a lot of eyewitness testimony down there of hearing explosions. [..] and the whole time you're hearing "boom, boom, boom, boom, boom." I think I know an explosion when I hear it... — Former NYC Police Officer and 9/11 Rescue Worker Craig Bartmer

Kamala  posted on  2007-08-20   22:38:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Zipporah (#23)

History channel: The diesel fuel fueled the fires in WTC7.

This has been previously proven false. I will post the links later.

I notice they did not show the commonly called squibs associated with the collapse of WTC 7.

honway  posted on  2007-08-20   22:41:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: honway, Kamala, orangedog, Zipporah, christine (#26) (Edited)

If that's the best the BIG MEDIA can come up with, then it's official: the 9-11 truth movement has already won.

The History Channel of the future will forget that this sorry propaganda piece of theirs ever happened.

Check out my blog, America, the Bushieful.

Arator  posted on  2007-08-20   23:10:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: honway (#26) (Edited)

Well they said that wouldn't make a hit piece and they didn't. However, a simple white wash will do. The smugness of the Pop Mech crew was amusing.

No Israelis were hurt (or reported) in the production of this piece...back to our regular programming of Hitler/Holocaust.

“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"

Eoghan  posted on  2007-08-20   23:14:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: All (#26)

The History Channel repeatedly showed an animation of a 757 hitting the Pentagon.

Did anyone else notice that the animation in no way represented the flight path required to skim the tree tops and knock down five light poles while flying less than 50 feet above irregular terrain?

honway  posted on  2007-08-20   23:16:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Eoghan (#28)

No Israelis were hurt (or reported)

Excellent point. Five Israeli intelligence assets setup to videotape the initial impact did not make it into the two hours, however, the producers had air time for the required, it's like "a knife stabbing me in my heart" every time some one wants answers to the most important questions of our lifetime.

I cannot tell you how many times the government exploited the victims of the OKC bombing for the same purpose.

honway  posted on  2007-08-20   23:23:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Arator (#27)

One of my favorite parts was when the narrator said: Norman Mineta stands by his statement.

honway  posted on  2007-08-20   23:26:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: honway (#4)

i couldn't watch. just reading y'all's reviews is raising my blood pressure!

christine  posted on  2007-08-21   0:03:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: christine (#32) (Edited)

I'm catching bits of it, and it really is made for people who have been living under a rock. At least the bits I'm seeing.

Swimming around in my bourbon highball.....

PercyDovetonsils  posted on  2007-08-21   0:21:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: All (#33)

There is this "those crazy kids and their computers!" vibe about it.

It talks down to people.

Yeah, this will save television!

What I don't get, is if this attitude is "conspiracy theories are all silly, waste of time", then when the next History channel mysteries/conspiracy theory show is on, what are the core viewers going to think?

Swimming around in my bourbon highball.....

PercyDovetonsils  posted on  2007-08-21   0:34:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: honway (#6)

Popular Mechanics on the Pentagon:"The wings were sheared off before the plane hit the Pentagon."

Ahhhhh Yes, the Evil Doers from that Cave In Afganistan with their wing shearing Islam Magic. Be Afraid, Be Very Afraid.

BUT - This IS NOT a conspiracy.

"Satan / Cheney in "08"

tom007  posted on  2007-08-21   0:39:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Burkeman1 (#8)

he History channel is rather despicable. It's "history" is about as sophisticated and nuanced as a 5th grader's social studies book. It basically boils down to US good - everyone else not as good or evil. It is a channel for dummies.

From what little I have watched of it, I have to agree with you. Nation building propaganda.

"Satan / Cheney in "08"

tom007  posted on  2007-08-21   0:40:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Burkeman1 (#8) (Edited)

huge Iranian military it had burdened the Iranian people with supporting with their meager oil earnings, and the show was one of the very few that actually didn't paint the Ayotollah as some cookie cutter evil villian.

Out of a hundred shows they may put one out like this so their spoke's stooge can claim they are unbiased.

Pretty common tactic, as I am sure you realize.

"Satan / Cheney in "08"

tom007  posted on  2007-08-21   0:43:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: tom007 (#36)

The part where they explain what "happened" with the plane parts at the Pentagon is pretty funny. Like the engines.

Swimming around in my bourbon highball.....

PercyDovetonsils  posted on  2007-08-21   0:56:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: All (#38)

The smug reporter saying the words "the Internet" with a smile on his face, as he laughs...

Now talking about a woman being harrassed because of a photo, as if conspiracy theorists all harrass people....

They have "Too much time on their hands"...

You know, I hope TV takes a major dump, as it is heading that way anyway.....screw these people, and the way they talk down to citizens.

Swimming around in my bourbon highball.....

PercyDovetonsils  posted on  2007-08-21   1:04:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: PercyDovetonsils (#38)

The part where they explain what "happened" with the plane parts at the Pentagon is pretty funny. Like the engines.

Issac Newton had it all wrong I suppose. The massive hardened jet engines going four hundred miles an hour or more changed direction in 0.01 second?

Hey - It occurs to me as of right now I may be able to physically PROVE a 757 did not crash into the pentagon.

Due the the mass of the engines suppossedly accelerating into the interior of the plane. I'll get back to you, but I do have way too much on my plate in other areas.

"Satan / Cheney in "08"

tom007  posted on  2007-08-21   1:07:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: tom007 (#40)

Hey sounds good!

Man, this show is such a blow job for the government media complex. With a nice reach-around and everything.

Yellow journalism.....the showing of the victims spouses, crying, as a rebuttal to the comments...

DAVIN KOBURN.....(if I'm spelling the name right)....from Popular Mechanics? WHAT A BODY LANGUAGE!

I believe that man is absolutely lying. He is really not able to hide it in his eye contact and body movements.

Swimming around in my bourbon highball.....

PercyDovetonsils  posted on  2007-08-21   1:21:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: All (#41)

Oh, everyone, you HAVE to see the clips on YouTube, of this doc, when they get to building 7....

Oh, FUNNY!!! Really, it's bad. They never proved anything legit with 7.

Swimming around in my bourbon highball.....

PercyDovetonsils  posted on  2007-08-21   1:33:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: honway (#29)

Those were the simulations from Purdue. Paid for by the DOD/NSF.

Mark

"I was real close to Building 7 when it fell down... That didn't sound like just a building falling down to me while I was running away from it. There's a lot of eyewitness testimony down there of hearing explosions. [..] and the whole time you're hearing "boom, boom, boom, boom, boom." I think I know an explosion when I hear it... — Former NYC Police Officer and 9/11 Rescue Worker Craig Bartmer

Kamala  posted on  2007-08-21   6:13:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: PercyDovetonsils (#34)

"conspiracy theories"

I dare someone to count how many time this phrase was repeated.

Mark

"I was real close to Building 7 when it fell down... That didn't sound like just a building falling down to me while I was running away from it. There's a lot of eyewitness testimony down there of hearing explosions. [..] and the whole time you're hearing "boom, boom, boom, boom, boom." I think I know an explosion when I hear it... — Former NYC Police Officer and 9/11 Rescue Worker Craig Bartmer

Kamala  posted on  2007-08-21   6:14:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: tom007 (#40)

The claim was the wings fell off or folded in, but then, the simulation shows the wings intact being shreded by the columns in the Pentagon.

Also claims a round hot ball of fuel/gas, stayed intact, went through 6 walls, 3 rings, and left a nice neat round hole on the outer wall of the 3rd inner ring.

LOL.

Mark

"I was real close to Building 7 when it fell down... That didn't sound like just a building falling down to me while I was running away from it. There's a lot of eyewitness testimony down there of hearing explosions. [..] and the whole time you're hearing "boom, boom, boom, boom, boom." I think I know an explosion when I hear it... — Former NYC Police Officer and 9/11 Rescue Worker Craig Bartmer

Kamala  posted on  2007-08-21   6:22:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: The Thread (#45)

Thanks to all for the reviews of this sham.

Join the Ron Paul Revolution

Lod  posted on  2007-08-21   8:26:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Burkeman1 (#8) (Edited)

It is a channel for dummies.

Yeah well, that works then. I am constantly reminded that many many people are anti "Islamic extremists" and think 911 was done by them. That applies to all muslims, as far as I can tell. So the channel plays well to the ignorant of which there are quite a few...probably the majority.

"First they ignore you. Then they ridicule you. Then they fight you. Then you win." --Mahatma Gandhi

angle  posted on  2007-08-21   8:45:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: tom007 (#35)

Ahhhhh Yes, the Evil Doers from that Cave In Afganistan with their wing shearing Islam Magic. Be Afraid, Be Very Afraid.

BUT - This IS NOT a conspiracy.

laughing...

christine  posted on  2007-08-21   9:11:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: christine (#48)

Lewis Paul Bremer III on Washington DC NBC4 TV 09/11/01

“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"

Eoghan  posted on  2007-08-21   9:51:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: honway (#0)

A documentary entitled The 9/11 Conspiracies, to be aired on the History Channel this evening, may represent the biggest hit piece to date on the 9/11 truth movement and is rife with bias, cronyism and conflicts of interest.

Stick a fork in the "truth" movement.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-08-21   10:10:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Arator (#15)

Who is the kid they keep going to for the "expert" response?

Has he graduated from High School yet?

James Mieges and his little buddy came across as really bad B movie actors.

Ringo Blankenship  posted on  2007-08-21   10:27:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Eoghan (#28)

Well they said that wouldn't make a hit piece and they didn't. However, a simple white wash will do. The smugness of the Pop Mech crew was amusing.

I would have liked to have seen some cross examination. The Pop Mech dorks always got the last word, and there was no opportunity to counter their claims.

Ringo Blankenship  posted on  2007-08-21   10:29:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Mister Clean (#50)

Stick a fork in the "truth" movement.

The History Channel program itself noted that in 2002, 13% of Americans thought that the Bush administration knew about 9/11 in advance. In 2006, a poll showed that 36% believe not that the Bush admin "knew" about the attacks in advance, but that the government actually assisted in the attacks.

Seems like the trend is going in the opposite direction of your claim.

Ringo Blankenship  posted on  2007-08-21   10:36:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Ringo Blankenship (#53)

The History Channel program itself noted that in 2002, 13% of Americans thought that the Bush administration knew about 9/11 in advance. In 2006, a poll showed that 36% believe not that the Bush admin "knew" about the attacks in advance, but that the government actually assisted in the attacks.

Seems like the trend is going in the opposite direction of your claim.

What polls?

But for the sake of argument let's say your numbers are correct.

So what? Nothing is happening as a result. 9/11 "truth" isn't an issue for most Americans and it won't be an issue in next years election. People care more about health care and illegal immigration than 9/11 "truth."

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-08-21   10:42:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Mister Clean (#54)

What polls?

But for the sake of argument let's say your numbers are correct.

They aren't my numbers. They are polls cited by the History Channel. Some polls have actually reported even higher levels of skepticism.

But all polls and evidence show that skepticism about 9/11 is consistently growing with each passing year. Thus, the facts show that your statement is incorrect. Not my opinions, but the actual facts.

Stick a fork in Mr. Clean!

Ringo Blankenship  posted on  2007-08-21   10:50:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Ringo Blankenship (#55)

But all polls and evidence show that skepticism about 9/11 is consistently growing with each passing year. Thus, the facts show that your statement is incorrect.

Not really.

I say the 9/11 "truth" movement has peaked and it's going nowhere. It's not a mainstream issue. It never will be.

Even if these numbers are correct, there is NOTHING happening as a result.

Street protests, websites, home-made "documentaries" are not producing any results.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-08-21   10:53:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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