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Published: Aug 20, 2007
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http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/august2007/200807hitpiece.htm A documentary entitled The 9/11 Conspiracies, to be aired on the History Channel this evening, may represent the biggest hit piece to date on the 9/11 truth movement and is rife with bias, cronyism and conflicts of interest.
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ugh
I tuned in and I have it on in the other room.
http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=59503 Will they mention Operation Able Danger? Will they explain how debris from United 93 was discovered 8 miles from the crash site? Will they show the videos of WTC7 collapsing?
Thirty minutes into the program and the only thing the program has offered is psycho-babble concerning the individuals' motivations for pursuing the truth and attack the messenger tactics.
Gotta love this image
I really thought this was going to be a one sided hit piece. If the second half hour was a hit piece, it was a hit piece of the official story. One example, Popular Mechanics on the Pentagon:"The wings were sheared off before the plane hit the Pentagon."
Really? This is ridiculous " Popular Mechanics on the Pentagon:"The wings were sheared off before the plane hit the Pentagon."" Sheared off by what?
The History channel is rather despicable. It's "history" is about as sophisticated and nuanced as a 5th grader's social studies book. It basically boils down to US good - everyone else not as good or evil. It is a channel for dummies. I have actually seen better shows on recent history on, of all places, the "Military Channel." I guess the DOD boys think their own channel doesn't need watching but someone over there isn't a lockstepper. They did a show on Iran's military that went rather deep into Iran's recent history and was quite candid about US support for the Shah and how he got into power by the US undermining its elected leader- the huge Iranian military it had burdened the Iranian people with supporting with their meager oil earnings, and the show was one of the very few that actually didn't paint the Ayotollah as some cookie cutter evil villian.
I think the military channel is connected to the discovery channel, and is not associated with the actual military at all. or so my husband tells me.
This entire program is a complete laugh.
Mark "I was real close to Building 7 when it fell down... That didn't sound like just a building falling down to me while I was running away from it. There's a lot of eyewitness testimony down there of hearing explosions. [..] and the whole time you're hearing "boom, boom, boom, boom, boom." I think I know an explosion when I hear it... — Former NYC Police Officer and 9/11 Rescue Worker Craig Bartmer
Some of these programs do give out some truth and tid-bits now and then.
Mark "I was real close to Building 7 when it fell down... That didn't sound like just a building falling down to me while I was running away from it. There's a lot of eyewitness testimony down there of hearing explosions. [..] and the whole time you're hearing "boom, boom, boom, boom, boom." I think I know an explosion when I hear it... — Former NYC Police Officer and 9/11 Rescue Worker Craig Bartmer
Since when does the title "magazine editor" make someone an "expert" on something? Oh, and where's Ben Chertoff?
"I'd like to live just long enough to be there when they cut off your head and stick it on a pike as a warning to the next ten generations that some favors come with too high a price." Vir Cotto, Babylon 5
Holy shit, too freakin' perfect. Oh, man....;-)
Swimming around in my bourbon highball..... Popular Mechanics on United 93 debris- Indian Lake was only a mile and a half from the crash site.No mention of the debris in New Baltimore. http://www.post-gazette.com/columnists/20020911roddy0911p5.asp A year after explosive discord, town still seeks harmony Wednesday, September 11, 2002 SHANKSVILLE, Pa. -- As teams of security agents combed the hillsides to make the day's proceedings the safest act of public mourning in history, a town half-tired of being famous soldiered doing what towns do. There was concrete to be laid on one end of town. The high school was in session. At an Amoco station that hasn't sold gasoline for three years, mechanic Bruce Grine stood beneath a rusting Chevy Cavalier and tried to jury-rig a series of bright silver clamps to a leaky rubber tube that was passing itself off as a fuel line. "All day long -- week in, week out -- people come in askin' where the flight site is. Then, where the mine site is," Grine said. A rumble of propellers cut into the midday heat and an Air Force C-130 banked across the town, just through the tree line where the smoke from United Flight 93 had traced a line in the sky one year earlier. "Yesterday we had hellycopters goin'," Grine said. "Security, I guess." No one in town would have had cause to know that it was all practice to make sure the Air Force planes arrived in time to the national anthem during ceremonies today. Before 9/11, Grine told people where he came from by giving them the distance from Pittsburgh. "Now you say Shanksville and everybody knows," he said. That is to say, they have heard of the town and have placed it somewhere in their internal map of civic history, but finding the actual place can still be tricky. The region was settled in the 19th century, meaning the roads represent a compromise to the surrounding mountains. An outsider looking for something can easily get turned around. Even the locals are sometimes unaware of how close they are to a given point, and modern life leaves them unaware of such simple things as the wind currents. The village of New Baltimore is a dozen or more miles by automobile but eight as the wind blows, which it was doing a year ago. Melanie Hankinson was at the church next to her home, transfixed before a television that showed the World Trade Center ablaze, when the man who sprays her lawn stopped by to tell her he was finding odd things in the weeds. "He said there was a loud bang and smoke and then these papers started blowing through your yard," she said. "I said, 'Oh.' Then I went back to the TV." Then the parish priest, the Rev. Allen Zeth, told her an airplane had crashed in Shanksville. For the next few hours, Hankinson gathered charred pages of in-flight magazines, papers from a pilot's manual -- she remembers a map showing the Guadalajara, Mexico, airport -- and copies of stock portfolio monthly earnings reports. "And there was some black webbing -- a lot of people found that," she said. The webbing, flexible where it hadn't burned, crisp where it had, was from insulation lining the belly of the jetliner. "A couple more miles and it could have been here," Hankinson said. Those words have been spoken in straight lines emanating in every direction from the strip mine where Flight 93 rent the earth. In Shanksville, people still wonder at how the unthinkable could have added another layer of hideousness had the plane crested the hillside and struck the high school. A few degrees more, added Grine, "and we wouldn't be here talking." Instead, he was now talking with Brenda Sell, who despaired of getting one broken automobile back before she had to drop off the one she was now driving. Her family business constructed the chain-link fence around the now-filled-in crater where Flight 93 crashed. Beyond that, any commerce connected to the effort troubled her. "I'm getting tired of people setting up little booths and selling stuff," she said. "It's the local people doing that." True, said Grine. His brother is selling funnel cakes and lemonade near the crash site. Others are hawking T-shirts. At the Somerset exit of the Pennsylvania Turnpike, two enterprising women are peddling bouquets of "Freedom Flowers," some of which by now are no doubt crowding a makeshift memorial where, yesterday, such surviving families as could bear the weight stood on an old strip mine and looked down a hill at a chain link fence while airplanes rumbled overhead trying to get in time to the music.
Who is the kid they keep going to for the "expert" response? Has he graduated from High School yet?
Check out my blog, America, the Bushieful.
Those are the young Hearst suck ass punks at popular Mechanics.
Mark "I was real close to Building 7 when it fell down... That didn't sound like just a building falling down to me while I was running away from it. There's a lot of eyewitness testimony down there of hearing explosions. [..] and the whole time you're hearing "boom, boom, boom, boom, boom." I think I know an explosion when I hear it... — Former NYC Police Officer and 9/11 Rescue Worker Craig Bartmer
Featuring a punk ass kid as their top "expert" makes the program even more of a laughingstock.
Check out my blog, America, the Bushieful.
Here is one. The aircraft SANDBLASTED off 80,000 square feet of all the fireproofing from the floors of the fires.
Mark "I was real close to Building 7 when it fell down... That didn't sound like just a building falling down to me while I was running away from it. There's a lot of eyewitness testimony down there of hearing explosions. [..] and the whole time you're hearing "boom, boom, boom, boom, boom." I think I know an explosion when I hear it... — Former NYC Police Officer and 9/11 Rescue Worker Craig Bartmer
Is Jim Meigs another closet gay GOPer?
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Thats ridiculous
The only reason History Channel has this on, is because they have no control over the internet. And I think most of their audience can't watch videos or are too clueless to figure it out. They are a day and dime short.
Swimming around in my bourbon highball..... I posted a video of an interview of the Shankesville mayor some time ago..not sure where it was uploaded.. I'll try to locate it.
Here is the interview: Shanksville Mayor says no plane debris at Flight 93 crash site.
I'd say that closet door is wiiiiide open.
"I'd like to live just long enough to be there when they cut off your head and stick it on a pike as a warning to the next ten generations that some favors come with too high a price." Vir Cotto, Babylon 5
Everytime either one is shown, my skin crawls.
Mark "I was real close to Building 7 when it fell down... That didn't sound like just a building falling down to me while I was running away from it. There's a lot of eyewitness testimony down there of hearing explosions. [..] and the whole time you're hearing "boom, boom, boom, boom, boom." I think I know an explosion when I hear it... — Former NYC Police Officer and 9/11 Rescue Worker Craig Bartmer
History channel: The diesel fuel fueled the fires in WTC7. This has been previously proven false. I will post the links later. I notice they did not show the commonly called squibs associated with the collapse of WTC 7.
If that's the best the BIG MEDIA can come up with, then it's official: the 9-11 truth movement has already won. The History Channel of the future will forget that this sorry propaganda piece of theirs ever happened.
Check out my blog, America, the Bushieful.
Well they said that wouldn't make a hit piece and they didn't. However, a simple white wash will do. The smugness of the Pop Mech crew was amusing. No Israelis were hurt (or reported) in the production of this piece...back to our regular programming of Hitler/Holocaust.
The History Channel repeatedly showed an animation of a 757 hitting the Pentagon. Did anyone else notice that the animation in no way represented the flight path required to skim the tree tops and knock down five light poles while flying less than 50 feet above irregular terrain?
Excellent point. Five Israeli intelligence assets setup to videotape the initial impact did not make it into the two hours, however, the producers had air time for the required, it's like "a knife stabbing me in my heart" every time some one wants answers to the most important questions of our lifetime. I cannot tell you how many times the government exploited the victims of the OKC bombing for the same purpose.
One of my favorite parts was when the narrator said: Norman Mineta stands by his statement.
i couldn't watch. just reading y'all's reviews is raising my blood pressure!
I'm catching bits of it, and it really is made for people who have been living under a rock. At least the bits I'm seeing.
Swimming around in my bourbon highball..... There is this "those crazy kids and their computers!" vibe about it. It talks down to people. Yeah, this will save television! What I don't get, is if this attitude is "conspiracy theories are all silly, waste of time", then when the next History channel mysteries/conspiracy theory show is on, what are the core viewers going to think?
Swimming around in my bourbon highball..... Ahhhhh Yes, the Evil Doers from that Cave In Afganistan with their wing shearing Islam Magic. Be Afraid, Be Very Afraid. BUT - This IS NOT a conspiracy.
"Satan / Cheney in "08"
From what little I have watched of it, I have to agree with you. Nation building propaganda.
"Satan / Cheney in "08"
Out of a hundred shows they may put one out like this so their spoke's stooge can claim they are unbiased. Pretty common tactic, as I am sure you realize.
"Satan / Cheney in "08"
The part where they explain what "happened" with the plane parts at the Pentagon is pretty funny. Like the engines.
Swimming around in my bourbon highball..... The smug reporter saying the words "the Internet" with a smile on his face, as he laughs... Now talking about a woman being harrassed because of a photo, as if conspiracy theorists all harrass people.... They have "Too much time on their hands"... You know, I hope TV takes a major dump, as it is heading that way anyway.....screw these people, and the way they talk down to citizens.
Swimming around in my bourbon highball..... Issac Newton had it all wrong I suppose. The massive hardened jet engines going four hundred miles an hour or more changed direction in 0.01 second? Hey - It occurs to me as of right now I may be able to physically PROVE a 757 did not crash into the pentagon. Due the the mass of the engines suppossedly accelerating into the interior of the plane. I'll get back to you, but I do have way too much on my plate in other areas.
"Satan / Cheney in "08"
Hey sounds good! Man, this show is such a blow job for the government media complex. With a nice reach-around and everything. Yellow journalism.....the showing of the victims spouses, crying, as a rebuttal to the comments... DAVIN KOBURN.....(if I'm spelling the name right)....from Popular Mechanics? WHAT A BODY LANGUAGE! I believe that man is absolutely lying. He is really not able to hide it in his eye contact and body movements.
Swimming around in my bourbon highball..... Oh, everyone, you HAVE to see the clips on YouTube, of this doc, when they get to building 7.... Oh, FUNNY!!! Really, it's bad. They never proved anything legit with 7.
Swimming around in my bourbon highball..... Those were the simulations from Purdue. Paid for by the DOD/NSF.
Mark "I was real close to Building 7 when it fell down... That didn't sound like just a building falling down to me while I was running away from it. There's a lot of eyewitness testimony down there of hearing explosions. [..] and the whole time you're hearing "boom, boom, boom, boom, boom." I think I know an explosion when I hear it... — Former NYC Police Officer and 9/11 Rescue Worker Craig Bartmer
I dare someone to count how many time this phrase was repeated.
Mark "I was real close to Building 7 when it fell down... That didn't sound like just a building falling down to me while I was running away from it. There's a lot of eyewitness testimony down there of hearing explosions. [..] and the whole time you're hearing "boom, boom, boom, boom, boom." I think I know an explosion when I hear it... — Former NYC Police Officer and 9/11 Rescue Worker Craig Bartmer
The claim was the wings fell off or folded in, but then, the simulation shows the wings intact being shreded by the columns in the Pentagon. Also claims a round hot ball of fuel/gas, stayed intact, went through 6 walls, 3 rings, and left a nice neat round hole on the outer wall of the 3rd inner ring. LOL.
Mark "I was real close to Building 7 when it fell down... That didn't sound like just a building falling down to me while I was running away from it. There's a lot of eyewitness testimony down there of hearing explosions. [..] and the whole time you're hearing "boom, boom, boom, boom, boom." I think I know an explosion when I hear it... — Former NYC Police Officer and 9/11 Rescue Worker Craig Bartmer
Thanks to all for the reviews of this sham.
Yeah well, that works then. I am constantly reminded that many many people are anti "Islamic extremists" and think 911 was done by them. That applies to all muslims, as far as I can tell. So the channel plays well to the ignorant of which there are quite a few...probably the majority.
"First they ignore you. Then they ridicule you. Then they fight you. Then you win." --Mahatma Gandhi
BUT - This IS NOT a conspiracy. laughing...
Lewis Paul Bremer III on Washington DC NBC4 TV 09/11/01 Stick a fork in the "truth" movement.
Has he graduated from High School yet? James Mieges and his little buddy came across as really bad B movie actors.
I would have liked to have seen some cross examination. The Pop Mech dorks always got the last word, and there was no opportunity to counter their claims.
The History Channel program itself noted that in 2002, 13% of Americans thought that the Bush administration knew about 9/11 in advance. In 2006, a poll showed that 36% believe not that the Bush admin "knew" about the attacks in advance, but that the government actually assisted in the attacks. Seems like the trend is going in the opposite direction of your claim.
Seems like the trend is going in the opposite direction of your claim. What polls? But for the sake of argument let's say your numbers are correct. So what? Nothing is happening as a result. 9/11 "truth" isn't an issue for most Americans and it won't be an issue in next years election. People care more about health care and illegal immigration than 9/11 "truth."
But for the sake of argument let's say your numbers are correct. They aren't my numbers. They are polls cited by the History Channel. Some polls have actually reported even higher levels of skepticism. But all polls and evidence show that skepticism about 9/11 is consistently growing with each passing year. Thus, the facts show that your statement is incorrect. Not my opinions, but the actual facts. Stick a fork in Mr. Clean!
Not really. I say the 9/11 "truth" movement has peaked and it's going nowhere. It's not a mainstream issue. It never will be. Even if these numbers are correct, there is NOTHING happening as a result. Street protests, websites, home-made "documentaries" are not producing any results.
Street protests, websites, home-made "documentaries" are not producing any results. What you "say" and your opinions are not as critical as the facts. Perhaps you missed the facts the first time: The History Channel program itself noted that in 2002, 13% of Americans thought that the Bush administration knew about 9/11 in advance. In 2006, a poll showed that 36% believe not that the Bush admin "knew" about the attacks in advance, but that the government actually assisted in the attacks.
Without action and results those numbers are meaningless.
Facts are facts, and public opinion is trending in the opposite direction of your claims.
It's meaningless.
I watched about an hour of this shit. For those who watched it, remember how they talked about the plane that hit the pentagon? How this plane destroyed the entire pentagon, shearing through steel reinforced concrete columns and what not causing it to punch a hole all the way through the other side? What I find interesting is what happened to the World Trade Center. The plane did NOT shear through all of the columns, and in fact, most of the structure was still intact. The other thing I found interesting was that the plane that crashed in Shanksville, seemed to simply vaporize on impact. If that's the case, then how come the plane didn't simply vaporize when it hit the Pentagon, because the pentagon is probably one of the most fortified buildings on the face of the earth? What I would like to see, is 4 of the same kind of plane, crashed into identical structures, as part of a simulation in order to ascertain the truth. Surely there must be footage of jets being tested crashing into the ground, buildings, etc? I wonder where those videos are? There's a lot of stuff in the video last night, that was just lies, and there was some people on there who said one thing, and recanted on tape. The most damning piece was the Norman Mineta testimony. Notice that they couldn't get his ass to talk on camera? I find it very interesting who would comment, and who wouldn't. The Popular Mechanics guys, who the fuck are they to tell the world what is the truth, when they have advertisements for snake oil and bullshit in their magazines? I found the first hour of the thing so nauseating I simply shut it off. The best part of the whole thing is where they interview the douchebag from the "New American Century Project." Hilarious.
Dying for old bastards, and their old money, isn't my idea of freedom.
For anyone knowledgeable on the topic, it became clear the Popular Mechanics contributors had no interest in the truth. If these individuals invested enough time to write a book on the topic, then certainly they must know significant debris from the reported United 93 was discovered eight miles from the crash site, as the crow flies, in New Baltimore. Certainly they know that the diesel lines, even if by extreme incompetence the lines were pressurized, did not go to the floors that were on fire in WTC7. Since they must be aware of these factors and lied to a national audience with the intention of covering -up for mass murderers, it did not reflect well on their character.
The fact that History Channel was forced to run an entire prime time special to "debunk" them shows otherwise.
Just like JFK and UFO documentaries, my gut says this will "explore" avenues of interest, but in a slightly snarky and condescending manner befitting the Title which displays the hotword 'Conspiracy', which has been known to invoke, after decades of imprinting, a vision of nuttiness, a capacity to consider the PTB incapable of nefarious acts (we know that's not true, despite the preponderance of evidence to the contrary), it brings up visions of swarthy guys drinking cheap wine outta tin cups under the light of a solitary bulb hanging on a wire. It short, a general view of undependable wild eyed loons. If the History Channel was serious, they coulda used the phrase, 911 Investigations or something like that. Instead they chose a loaded, pejorative word that the population, by long indoctrination has come to regard as being worthy only of contemptous dismissal.
Forced? That's funny. Like all TV programmers, they made this documentary for ratings. I bet a sizeable chunk of the audience were "truthers." Heh.
Correctomundo, which means this issue is mainstream enough to warrant a two-hour prime time special. You just debunked your own argument. Thank you!
Mister Clean don't use no gas " Junk is the ideal product... the ultimate merchandise. No sales talk necessary. The client will crawl through a sewer and beg to buy." - William S Burroughs
You said they were "forced" to debunk the conspiracy theories. They were not "forced" to make the program as a way of thwarting a growing movement, they chose to make a program to get ratings. Again, I bet a lot of the audience was made up of "truthers" not normal Americans looking for answers. What's really funny is how Alex Jones hyped up this program for weeks and is now freaking out over it. I wonder if he got paid for promoting the program?
The people that live in their parents basements? Sounds like you don't know the first thing about market research.
" Junk is the ideal product... the ultimate merchandise. No sales talk necessary. The client will crawl through a sewer and beg to buy." - William S Burroughs
Mister Clean don't drive too fast Here's a video of Mister Clean
The graphics were more damning then helpful to their cause, that's for sure. I felt like I was watching history explained for Jerry Springer fans. Very dumbed down.
Swimming around in my bourbon highball..... ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGH. Yes those pillars of wisdom, I remember them well.
"Satan / Cheney in "08"
I'm telling everyone who sees that stupid assed retarded video, that if you believe what you're told 100 percent of the time, then you deserve to have someone victimize and exploit you.
Dying for old bastards, and their old money, isn't my idea of freedom.
History Channel, Popular Mechanics, NBC & Hearst Publishing team up for smear job as conflicts of interest run rife
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If the second half hour was a hit piece, it was a hit piece of the official story.
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Those are the young Hearst suck ass punks at popular Mechanics.
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Here is one. The aircraft SANDBLASTED off 80,000 square feet of all the fireproofing from the floors of the fires.
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Is Jim Meigs another closet gay GOPer?
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“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"
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No Israelis were hurt (or reported)
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Popular Mechanics on the Pentagon:"The wings were sheared off before the plane hit the Pentagon."
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he History channel is rather despicable. It's "history" is about as sophisticated and nuanced as a 5th grader's social studies book. It basically boils down to US good - everyone else not as good or evil. It is a channel for dummies.
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huge Iranian military it had burdened the Iranian people with supporting with their meager oil earnings, and the show was one of the very few that actually didn't paint the Ayotollah as some cookie cutter evil villian.
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The part where they explain what "happened" with the plane parts at the Pentagon is pretty funny. Like the engines.
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"conspiracy theories"
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It is a channel for dummies.
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Ahhhhh Yes, the Evil Doers from that Cave In Afganistan with their wing shearing Islam Magic. Be Afraid, Be Very Afraid.
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“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"
#50. To: honway (#0)
A documentary entitled The 9/11 Conspiracies, to be aired on the History Channel this evening, may represent the biggest hit piece to date on the 9/11 truth movement and is rife with bias, cronyism and conflicts of interest.
#51. To: Arator (#15)
Who is the kid they keep going to for the "expert" response?
#52. To: Eoghan (#28)
Well they said that wouldn't make a hit piece and they didn't. However, a simple white wash will do. The smugness of the Pop Mech crew was amusing.
#53. To: Mister Clean (#50)
Stick a fork in the "truth" movement.
#54. To: Ringo Blankenship (#53)
The History Channel program itself noted that in 2002, 13% of Americans thought that the Bush administration knew about 9/11 in advance. In 2006, a poll showed that 36% believe not that the Bush admin "knew" about the attacks in advance, but that the government actually assisted in the attacks.
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What polls?
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But all polls and evidence show that skepticism about 9/11 is consistently growing with each passing year. Thus, the facts show that your statement is incorrect.
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I say the 9/11 "truth" movement has peaked and it's going nowhere.
#58. To: Ringo Blankenship (#57)
The History Channel program itself noted that in 2002, 13% of Americans thought that the Bush administration knew about 9/11 in advance. In 2006, a poll showed that 36% believe not that the Bush admin "knew" about the attacks in advance, but that the government actually assisted in the attacks.
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Facts are facts, and public opinion is trending in the opposite direction of your claims.
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I watched about an hour of this shit.
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It's meaningless.
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The fact that History Channel was forced to run an entire prime time special to "debunk" them shows otherwise.
#66. To: Mister Clean (#65)
Like all TV programmers, they made this documentary for ratings.
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Mister Clean don't drive too fast
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Correctomundo, which means this issue is mainstream enough to warrant a two-hour prime time special. You just debunked your own argument. Thank you!
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Again, I bet a lot of the audience was made up of "truthers" not normal Americans looking for answers.
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Mister Clean don't use no gas
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The best part of the whole thing is where they interview the douchebag from the "New American Century Project."
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