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Published: Aug 23, 2007
Author: Edgar J. Steele
Post Date: 2007-08-23 09:52:10 by christine
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My name is Edgar J. Steele. I believe that America, finally, has achieved critical mass and simultaneously has reached or is approaching her "tipping point" regarding a great many issues. Tipping points inherently are deceptive. Overtly, one perceives a sudden, dramatic shift, often without notice. Unlike schoolyard teeter-totters, however, the required force usually is not applied all at once. Let me give you a personal example. When I was younger and even more foolish than today, I smoked cigarettes. "Everybody did it," as they say, in those days. Gradually, my disgust with the habit outgrew the coolness that I imagined cigarettes imparted, Bogart-like, to my image, but smoking had become an ingrained, habituated ritual and physical addiction. Incidentally, most people tend to overlook the ritualistic significance of handling cigarettes, which is why, I believe, most find it so difficult to quit smoking. The physical nicotine addiction, which is surmounted in about three days, is the least of it. For years, I would quit, then start again ... and again ... and again. Sound familiar? Toward the end of my addiction, I even changed brands to one that I didn't like at all ("Advantage," which was like smoking old, rolled-up newspaper compared to my beloved/hated charcoal-filter Tareytons). Yet, I continued to put them away, two packs or more, each and every day. I remember clearly the moment I reached my cigarette tipping point: I was navigating a troublesome 5-way intersection in Oakland, California during rush hour, signaling, looking around, dodging other cars, shifting gears, turning the wheel and juggling a cigarette that slipped from my fingers. Smokers are all-too-familiar with this situation, source of countless burnt spots in clothing, upholstery, carpentry and assorted body parts. Once through that intersection without killing anybody, I snagged up the smoldering butt. Looking at what had become my very last cigarette with the sort of disgust so many of us feel concerning George Bush these days, I stubbed it out in the overflowing ashtray. I haven't had a cigarette in nearly 40 years. Not once, in all that time, have I wanted one. Other smokers began to challenge me enviously, then, as it became clear that I was well clear, asking how I had managed to quit so easily - so effortlessly. I tried to tell them about my years of growing disgust, but could not point to any single thing, not even that brief moment in traffic when I reached my tipping point, that helped them out of their habit. Others thought that I was hiding some powerful secret. To them, I quit overnight. I knew better. I simply had reached the point where my desire not to smoke had overtaken my desire to smoke and, just like that, overtly manifested what had been building for years. To me, it was a long, drawn-out process, fraught with countless false starts and too much effort to describe. To them, I had captured lightning in a bottle. Almost always, tipping points are like my conversion from smoker to non-smoker. Things seem so normal, so unchanging, for so long, despite nagging warnings and recurrent little signs to the contrary. Suddenly, a tipping point is reached and lasting change occurs. A stock market crashes. A currency hyper inflates. Economic depression befalls entire nations. World War suddenly erupts from some small regional conflict. Infection becomes epidemic. History is replete with examples. Only the Reality of Change Never Changes In fact, if there is one thing that history should teach us, it is that the status quo - always - is only temporary. Why should today be any different? Why should America escape the fate of every empire that has fallen before her time? The signs of imminent change are everywhere today and seem, just recently, to have accelerated, both in frequency and in number. Individually, the tipping points heaving into view are manageable. Problem is, the accretion of imminent tipping points worldwide and, particularly, in America is mind boggling: America's war effort in Iraq is on the verge of total collapse, despite media reports to the contrary. Yet we are about to invade Iran? The Russian Bear once again has emerged, is heavily patrolling outside its own borders with nuclear-armed bombers and ships and has strongly warned both Israel and America not to interfere in Iran. The mortgage market is on the verge of total collapse, as indicated by the sudden failure of not-so-subprime lenders in addition to a raft of lower-rung mortgage companies. Yet, that sea of Adjustable Rate Mortgages has only just begun to ratchet up from their teaser rates. Home foreclosures have doubled in the past year alone (and foreclosures have been posting new annual records for a while now). Because most money market accounts and a great many financial derivatives are backed solely by home mortgages, packaged in different ways and with impressive-sounding names, people and institutions are dropping commercial paper like hot potatoes. Now that all laws against banking usury have been suspended, just wait until enough Americans see their credit card balances being charged interest at the rate of 36% for being a day late with a single payment or, perhaps, merely going over their limit a few dollars. Bankruptcy no longer is an option for most Americans, due to changes in the law secretly emplaced by Congress doing the bidding of the banking industry. This will be interesting as we find out if they intend to reinstitute debtors' prisons. At least, it will be a way to get a meal ("Please, sir, may I have some more porridge?") Derivatives in general and hedge funds, in particular, are on the verge of total collapse, just as so many hedge funds already quietly have been subsumed by their own industry and government (but, I repeat myself). The stock market should have crashed long ago and shows signs now of growing beyond the control, even, of the plunge protection team composed of banking industry and government people (but, again I repeat myself). The Choice: Stock Market Crash or Stock Market Crash Many say that interest rates must increase, else the dollar will disappear into hyperinflation, with the market crashing into nonsensical dollar values. If interest rates are increased, however, the resultant increased cost of doing business alone will crash the market. Given how far the market has been stretched by the outrageously expansionary monetary policies of ex-Federal Reserve Chairman "Easy Al" Greenspan and, now, "WhirlyBen" Bernanke, a crash, whether controlled or in a rush, is unavoidable. Nothing - nothing - can save the stock market now. Remember that financial markets can crash upwards, too. It just requires a measuring currency that devalues faster than the market appreciates. In fact, America's stock market has been crashing upwards for years, already. The Lesson of History is Lost on Everyone As always, history would be instructive if we would but pay attention. Not just those who fail to study history are doomed to repeat it, as America's current plight has been experienced, time and again, by each and every single empire since the dawn of civilization. Similarly, if one would but see, the path ahead clearly is set out by the recorded experience of those past empires. It isn't pretty. Let's focus on just one such experience, that of post-WWI Germany. Not the same, you say? Germany was a defeated nation, saddled with crushing war reparation payments and overseen by hostile, foreign interests, after all. Fair enough objection. Let's dispel it. The Usual Suspects ... Again Time does not allow full development of the concept in this space, but suffice to say that America, too, is a defeated nation (subject of the slow, rolling coup that broke into the open with the assassination of JFK) and now is overseen by hostile, foreign interests in the form of the usual suspects: the globalists ... central bankers ... some might even say Jews. And that is just the beginning of the similarities. Now, you stop right there! I saw that grimace cross your face. I heard you mutter in disgust, "Just another anti-Semitic screed." Perhaps. Perhaps not. Try to keep an open mind, because it is impossible to pin the tail on this donkey with euphemisms like "central bankers" or, even, "Zionists." Discussing America's impending disaster without using the J-word is like trying to describe the phenomenon of Elvis impersonators without using the E-word. In an absurd mixture of metaphor and mostly just for fun, visit http://www.jewishelvis.com and listen to Jelvis sing "Blue Suede Yarmulke." Ahem ... now, seriously, one absolutely must understand the tribal and clannish Jewish mentality that places race ahead of country, always in fear of being displaced, always needing total control, always creating its own opposition and persecution and always ... always overreaching, thereby leading to ejection or destruction. Just as Germany nearly a century ago was saddled with Jewish bankers and governmental overseers following the Versailles Treaty, so is America governed today. The import of this fact goes well beyond coincidence. America's Federal Reserve Bank is foreign owned (primarily Jewish), just as was post-WWI Germany's Reichsbank. America's government thoroughly is in the hands of Jewish interests, just as was post-WWI Germany's. America's media today is entirely owned and run by Jewish interests and is used primarily as a tool of social engineering via propaganda, just like post-WWI Germany. America today is saddled with crushing financial obligations she cannot meet, both at home and abroad. Before much longer, every single dollar taken in via tax collections will be spent merely on government interest payments. America quite literally never can repay her debts. Just like Germany nearly a century ago. Just like Germany of the 1920s, America has begun to create money infinitely and very recently has made clear her intent to continue to do so. If you seriously doubt any one of the foregoing propositions, then you simply haven't been paying attention and you need to do some fundamental spadework, which the Internet makes so easy. Incidentally, if you disbelieve anything I just have told you and don't do this basic research, if only in an attempt to discredit me, then you are a fool and I wash my hands of you. Economic Tipping Points That's the background. Now, here's the setup: Germany's Reichsbank literally poured money into the German economy, starting in 1914 and then accelerating in earnest in 1919, both directly and by letting all true German street banks create money through lending and fractional-reserve banking. Just like America today. The German government was run for the internationalist purposes of its Jewish masters, leading to an inflationary economy, decreasing morality and so many other indicia of America today. So much money was created that the amount in foreign hands lent itself to international speculative short selling of the Mark. Just like America today. Germany's tipping point came when a critical mass of the Mark enabled the foreign speculation. The speculative short selling, soon to begin with American dollars, marked the beginning of Germany's inexorable march into hyperinflation. Between 1914 and 1919, the value of the German mark versus the American dollar fell from 4:1 to 8:1 (25 cents to about 12 cents), a decline of 50% in just five years. Now, consider the fact that, between 2002 and 2006, also a span of just five years, the American dollar fell 50%, as well, during which time average American wages actually fell slightly in unadjusted dollars (thus, a halving of the American standard of living, but for the real estate bubble that enabled Americans to use home equity as a source of funds). It was at just the point America finds herself today that Germany reached her economic tipping point: the Reichsbank opened the monetary floodgates (just as the Fed did within the past week) and the Mark began to spiral out of control into hyperinflation. One year later, during 1920, the Mark was worth but 2 cents (50:1). In 1921, the Mark brought slightly more than one penny (100:1). In 1922, true hyperinflation set in and it took 1000 Marks to buy a single American dollar. In 1923, with the end in sight, the ratio quickly soared from 18,000:1 to 4 trillion Marks to 1 dollar! Gold: $300 Trillion per Ounce? From tipping point to oblivion in just four years. If the parallel holds true, then gold should be worth $3,000 per ounce later in 2008, $75,000 in 2009, $750,000 in 2010 and $300 trillion per ounce sometime in 2012. Could this really happen in America? Yes, though probably not so dramatically. Once a tipping point is reached, don't forget, things can appear to change almost overnight. But, consider merely the effect of the dollar falling by half yet again during the next few years - and I absolutely guarantee you that the decline will be far greater than half. As I first foresaw long ago (and, in truth, wrote Defensive Racism to sound the warning), the coming economic debacle will make the Great Depression look like a church picnic and cause us to start numbering our economic depressions, just as we now do for widespread warfare. At the time, many called me a loon for predicting that Depression II was coming. Today, the possibility is openly discussed on CNBC, of all places. In the process, the American middle class will be eliminated, just as last century in Germany: "Annuities, pensions, proceeds of insurance policies, savings accounts in the banks, income from bonds and mortgages - every form of revenue which had been arranged for at some time in the past, and which often represented the economy, foresight, and personal planning of many years - now turned to nothing. The middle class was pauperized and demoralized." ("A History of the Modern World," Palmer, et al., 9th Ed., 2002) At about the time of Germany's tipping point, one obscure German observer noted that, "The government calmly goes on printing these scraps of paper because, if it stopped, that would be the end of the government. Because once the printing presses stopped - and that is the prerequisite for the stabilization of the mark - the swindle would at once be brought to light. Believe me, our misery will increase. The scoundrel will get by. The reason: because the State itself has become the biggest swindler and crook. A robbers' state!? If the horrified people notice that they can starve on billions, they must arrive at this conclusion: we will no longer submit to a State which is built on the swindling idea of the majority. We want a dictatorship." Years later, that obscure observer rose to international acclaim, even being named Time Magazine's 1938 Man of the Year, when his foresight was proven true. His name? Adolf Hitler. Happen to know of anybody who, in recent years, has remarked repeatedly about America needing a dictator? What's the Point of Having a Police State if You Don't Use It? Do you think our masters don't pay attention to history? Do you think they aren't readying the framework to restrain the great American masses who can be expected to rise up, just as did the Germans, nearly a century ago? If not, then you tell me just what all this Patriot Act and American police state hooha is for, then. It is not to protect you and me. It is to protect them from you and me. How best to prevent having a truly effective dictator like Hitler rise up on behalf of the common man? Why - have your own stooge dictator already in place, of course. How on earth do you think that somebody as patently stupid as George Bush possibly could have attained the Presidency? Bush may think he is the man and I see a great many Internet commentators openly fearing his canceling the upcoming election, but I see no danger of that happening. Only stooges vetted by AIPAC and the ADL are allowed to vie for the American Presidency. Therefore, they can give us regular elections, thereby providing the illusion of democracy, while all the time maintaining a firm grip on the levers of power. Bush is just a place marker stooge, readily interchangeable with Clinton, Obama, Giuliani, Romney and so many others who already have sold their souls to Israel for their place at the trough. How else do you think we so thoroughly could have tossed out the Republican congressional miscreants during the last mid-term election, thinking we would get change, only to get a Democrat-controlled House and Senate that both go against predominant American stated desires even more than their Republican predecessors? Obviously, they are responding to someone other than the electorate! Will there be world war? Of course. They must have something to distract us and to blame for our coming economic misfortune. When? Soon. Very soon. Of course, that is just another historical profit opportunity for the international banking interests who truly own and run America as they get yet another opportunity to sell and lend to both sides at once, then pick up the pieces afterward at pennies on the dollar. The American Tipping Point Economic reports of just the past couple of weeks demonstrate that a critical mass has been attained. I believe that America now has reached her economic tipping point and, from the perspective of history written a hundred years from now, seemingly overnight the American landscape will be seen to have changed forever. "But things look so normal," you may protest. Yes, but I predict that America in a year or two will look very different. There is No Hope Do not look to the system for any sort of meaningful change. Voting is rigged. Everything is rigged. Of the current announced Presidential candidates, only one would effect meaningful change: Ron Paul. I hesitate to endorse the man because I so like him. I firmly believe that, if the current media disinformation campaign fails and Ron Paul actually becomes a leading contender, they simply will kill him as they have so many before (Huey Long and Robert Kennedy come to mind). If elected and he lives through to his inauguration and refuses to knuckle under, they simply will kill him then, just as they did JFK. Make no mistake - Ron Paul would make a great President, but it simply ain't gonna happen, folks. But, he says he wants the job, so he's got my vote, regardless. Possibilities There are possibilities, but none of them are pretty. Perhaps America will get nuked into submission by a world tired of being bullied at every turn. Once backed by gold, then by oil, the dollar today is backed by America's nuclear arsenal. Do what we say and use the dollar to transact international business or we will bomb you into rubble. Just ask Iraq. A nuclear exchange, finally, will pull America's trump card. Perhaps a popular revolt will take hold and make meaningful inroads, despite the militarization of local police forces. This latter possibility will require our reaching a political tipping point, marked by government troops machine gunning citizens wholesale in the streets. From our perspective how much longer do we have before we can expect significant overt change? If this were being televised, I would look at my watch to drive home the point. Maybe weeks. Maybe months. Maybe even a year or two more, but that is pushing it. Certainly, by 2012 you will not recognize America, if she exists at all by then. So there you have it. We're doomed. The only question is whether our current masters will be able to hold on through the coming economic tsunami about to sweep over America and the rest of the world. I'm betting they won't. After all, we know where they live. Mark my words well: one day we will come for them, drag them out and line them up against a wall - after a fair trial, of course. New America. An idea whose time has come. My name is Edgar J. Steele. Thanks for listening. Please visit my web site, http://www.ConspiracyPenPal.com, for other messages just like this one. -ed
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I would consider him more of a realist.
History is a making in front of our eyes and most see nothing. As prior to WW1 and WW2 the forces of power are adjusting and aligning themselves. We have EU, Russia/China have announced an official engagement with attending Slackastans, and we are forming NAU. China has showed that they can topple our economy any time they desire, Russia is now projecting military might. History in the making and people are blind as to its result.
Steele is quite correct. Any research into German economics will bear him out. Jewish control of Germanys economy did NOT happen after Hitler, it was there long before. Chancellor Bruning put it in writing to Winston Churchill as to who the people were in control and named the the two top supporters financially that helped put Hitler in power, both were bank presidents in Berlin and ardent Zionists.
Brüning was writing about the Weimar Republic. I was asking about World War One, the last years of Wilhelmine, imperial Germany. There may have been very powerful Jews, like Rathenau, in Germany at the time. But I think somebody like Gen. Ludendorff had more to say about how the economy was run. And I was just as much questioning the idea that Germany during that war was being run for internationalist purposes as the idea that it was run by Jews. If Germany during World War One was not nationalist, as opposed to internationalist, then when is any country ever not internationalist?
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
World War One??? Rothschilds were firmly in place long before WW1, time lining via a war or leader is meaningless. Bruning was testifying to the obvious, the Jews were in control and had been for a very long time. Subscribing Jewish control of German financial affairs as being post WW1 defies history.
Nobody ever told me that Gen. Ludendorff, who had dictatorial control over the German economy circa 1916-18, was a Jew. As a matter of fact, considering the sort of stuff he wrote and said in the 1920's, I suspect he would have been surprised to hear it as well. I don't think Kaiser Wilhelm was a Jew either. And I notice you don't say anything about the internationalist bit.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
I do not recall the Kaiser being a part of the discussion, and his ethnicity certainly is of no interest. The discussion as you believe is that the Jewish financial interests were a late arrival post WW1. There is nothing in history that validates that.
i should have put a qualifier. i said that because of Clean's post about doom and gloomers a few weeks ago.
The German government was run for the internationalist purposes of its Jewish masters, leading to an inflationary economy, decreasing morality and so many other indicia of America today. I was questioning those statements by the author. Perhaps you might want to read them again, more carefully. And you still noticeably fail to explain how the behavior of Germany's government during World War One could in any sense be called "internationalist". And you also ignore the fact that Gen. Ludendorff, a notorious anti-Semite, had what amounted to dictatorial power in Germany for the second half of World War One.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
I disagree with this characterization. That bill wasn't rushed through a la the Patriot Act. Indeed, it failed to achieve passage for years until finally being rammed through, after months of debate, in 2005. Of course, it WAS the bidding of the banking/credit card industry. And they would tell you, if honest, that, hell, SOMEONE OUGHT TO DAMN WELL do their bidding, as much as they pay per congressman.
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There is a view, that I have trouble buying into, that interference by the International Bankers (considered to be mostly Jewish) has been active for more than a century or two in orchestrating all manner of evil upon EU/UK/America. In my view of history, I see all kinds of people taking advantage of opportunities, and some may be in a better position to capitalize on events (e.g. - Baron Nathan Rothschild’s famous piece of advice: buy when the blood is in the streets.), than others. But no group can claim ownership of evil, it's pretty much an equal opportunity employer.
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Have you heard of the Belgian War Relief? In WW I Aid to Belgium from the allies was intentionally diverted to Germany so they could feed their troops and continue the war. England also allowed war materiel into Germany from Sweden and from Spain and Portugal knowing that it would be used to kill British soldiers. America entered the war two years after a peaceful resolution could have been made. Tens of millions of people died after WW I could have been resolved. Why? Because the Jewish bankers wanted to bankrupt Germany, England and Russia. They wanted to create a Jewish state in Russia and another in Palestine. There was no other rational reason for the war to last so long.
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Probably the best written paragraph in the piece. Certainly the most descriptive of what has/will happen. MARIA THERESA, Queen of Hungary and Bohemia (1771 1789): "Henceforth no Jew, no matter under what name, will be allowed to remain here without my written permission. I know of no other troublesome pest within the state than this race, which impoverished the people by their fraud, usury and money lending and commits all deeds which an honorable man despises. Subsequently they have to be removed and excluded from here as much as possible."
When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest.
Extremely well said. And absolutely correct. Everyone needs to remember that the Rochschilds banking dynasty started in Germany! NOT in England! And do we have any other references from that time, and from that area of the world? I do believe so.... MARIA THERESA, Queen of Hungary and Bohemia (1771 1789): "Henceforth no Jew, no matter under what name, will be allowed to remain here without my written permission. I know of no other troublesome pest within the state than this race, which impoverished the people by their fraud, usury and money lending and commits all deeds which an honorable man despises. Subsequently they have to be removed and excluded from here as much as possible."
When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest.
The real root of WWI was the struggle between Germany and England (i.e., the Crown of England = the banking committee in control of the City) over sea lanes and foreign colonies, and the challenge that Germany was mounting against British control of the oceans. It is not an accident that Germany lost all of her overseas possessions as a result of WWI. And all of it was a manufactured war designed to create a New World Order. There have been countless books written on these subjects, including books which identify the 'need' to have 3 (count em; 3) world wars to make that New World Order possible. Now, go back and read Steels comments again. Oh, and think about this; "Out of these troubled times, our fifth objective - a new world order - can emerge.... We are now in sight of a United Nations that performs as envisioned by its founders." - September 11, 1990 televised address: President George H. W. Bush - "[The Gulf Crisis] has to do with a new world order. And that new world order is only going to be enhanced if, this newly activated peace-keeping function of the United Nations proves to be effective." - January 9, 1991 Press Conference President George H. W. Bush - Or, perhaps, in view of what Steele said, this makes more sense; "If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator." December 18, 2000 President George W. Bush
When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest.
Oh believe me, they read them. You simply do not understand how completely they could care less what happens to people; they are insulated, and intend to stay that way no matter what the cost to others. They have their own agenda, and history will, in their opinion, help them to achieve it.
When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest.
You have it pretty well nailed. And do not forget that the Rochschilds STARTED in Germany, and spread throughout Europe from Germany. They have ALWAYS controlled Germany. And we need to remember the money washed through I.G. Farben by ol grandfather Bushie that put Hitler into power, and which came from Jewish bankers in New York. Which, of course, says nothing about the gold that came out of the New York Jewish banking community and which paid for the so-called Russian Revolution.
When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest.
There's really not a point in arguing with the Goyimcaust deniers anymore...it's laughable at this point. Every mention of the goy front man mentioned there's a Zionist Jew smiling right beside them. Kaiser Wilhem - Paul Warburg British Intelligence - Sir William Wiseman Woodrow Wilson - Justice Brandeis on and on... Some need the Jew Watch Project, BADLY.
Sad but true. Some need the Jew Watch Project, BADLY. Also sad but true in that they would never bother to read and learn the facts, such as the following; "But whence comes this sinister marvel (the progressive Judaic Power)? It comes from the failing of the Christian faith...from the progress of secret societies, filled with apostate Christians who desire what the Jew desires; that is to say, Judaic civilizations given to us by our teacher and master the philosophic Jew, the Jew of the 'Alliance universelle.'" (des Mousseaux; The Trail of the Serpent, Inquire Within, Miss Stoddard, p. 93).
When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest.
Lets look at your original statement. It seems it contains two suppositions, one, "internationalist purposes" and two, "its Jewish masters". It would seem you disagree with one or both, whichever. To refute history in an effort to support your opinion is totally baseless. There is nothing in history that gives any indication that "Jews/internbationalist appeared AFTER WW1. Chancellor Bruning was in fact confirming that PRIOR to 1932 the two largest banks in Berlin were in fact Hitler supporters. In doing so they did not amass their wealth post WW1, they were there many long years before.
In that process the seeds of WW2 were laid before WW1.
My problem with looking at history only in this way is it excludes other culpable suspects in the evil that has befallen Western Civilization: like any number of Monarchies, a corrupt Papacy at times, and a few wars between Protestants and Catholics. Then there's the Black Plague and the rise in Colonialism and corporations like the East India Company. Plenty of powerful White Anglo/Saxons profiting from all of these. It's just too easy to target one group.
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Indeed. Because they're both in the quote from the author that I was questioning.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
As I said; And all of it was a manufactured war designed to create a New World Order. There have been countless books written on these subjects, including books which identify the 'need' to have 3 (count em; 3) world wars to make that New World Order possible.
When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest.
And what does that have to do with who determined German government policy during World War One, long before Hitler appeared on the political scene? Does it not give you pause that Hitler, who was very critical of the Kaiser and his government in other respects, and who was of course a fanatical anti- Semite, never -- at least as far as I know -- criticized the Kaiser and his government for being Jew-dominated or internationalist in its purposes?
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
I take it you've been studying the works of Dr. Goebbels?
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
No, I think the Talmud is orginal text.
Great discussion - thanks. I'm signing, addressing, stamping letters to potential delegates to our StrawPoll on the 30th...taking a break for my hand to un-cramp...
If you find insults to be impressive or useful, you are wrong. As a matter of fact Dr. Schacht and I had mutual friends/family and I can assure he at no time ever entertained any illusions such as you espouse.
If you had read as much of Dr. Goebbels as I have, you might recognize the similarity of the ideas. Forgive me for not seeing what the relevance of the opinions of Dr. Schacht is here. I do not think anyone had mentioned him in this thread. I know I didn't.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
The state of Texas StrawPoll is September 1st.
Perhaps Dr. Goebbels represents something of interest to you, however I do not recall him being involved in German economic affairs, prior, during or after WW2. In fact I do not recall him as being visible during WW1. Perhaps you could bolster your opinion if you were to restrict yourself to the time period you seem to have formed opinions counter to history.
The statement I associated with Dr. Goebbels's ideas is not, as far as I can see, restricted to the period of World War One. But that does not stop the statement from being extremely similar to that man's thought.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
Of course. It more accurately allows them to do things just slightly differently than was done in the past to make their "success" more sure. But this really isn't about the Bush regime, as ES pointed out. It really doesn't make one iota of difference who the new puppet is (save for RP - but Steele is right when he says that should RP garner enough support to actually win he'll only go down as another JFK) they all respond to their master(s). What I find more troubling is that almost NO ONE puts any serious study into the Scriptures, coupled with a serious study of history. When the 2 are combined it clearly paints the picture that has nearly everyone baffled today. It shows the true "elite", the "puppetmasters". The #1 "puppetmaster" in the world is the pope, he controls the Rothschilds and the rest. Practically every nation on earth has been pledged to the papacy. The Beast is in motion, and the papacy does the bidding of the Beast. To very sharp historians, it is all laid out very clearly in Daniel 7... IF the majority of people could make this distinction, THEN perhaps we could "make a difference"... Revelation says it won't happen, and I tend to believe it.
99 percent of lawyers give the rest a bad name. Long Live the Queen ... ahem, how did she die ???
"The mighty are only mighty because we are on our knees. Let us rise!" --Camille Desmoulins
Except Scripture is open to interpretation. Today the Vatican has influence but not any real power like it once held.
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You mean the Christian faith that came from Jews? Jesus, Paul and all of the apostles were Jews. So, basically the choice is to follow Jews or.... follow Jews. There's your choice. And people wonder why I'm not religious...
(Ed Steele is a super doom and gloomer)
#6. To: christine (#4)
(Ed Steele is a super doom and gloomer)
#7. To: aristeides (#3)
Germany during World War One was run for the internationalist purposes of its Jewish masters? That's a new one, at least on me.
#8. To: Cynicom (#7)
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#9. To: aristeides (#8)
I was asking about World War One,
#10. To: Cynicom (#9)
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#11. To: aristeides (#10)
I don't think Kaiser Wilhelm was a Jew either.
#12. To: Cynicom, Mister Clean (#6)
(Ed Steele is a super doom and gloomer)
#13. To: Cynicom (#11)
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Germany's Reichsbank literally poured money into the German economy, starting in 1914 and then accelerating in earnest in 1919, both directly and by letting all true German street banks create money through lending and fractional-reserve banking. Just like America today.
#14. To: christine (#0)
Bankruptcy no longer is an option for most Americans, due to changes in the law secretly emplaced by Congress doing the bidding of the banking industry.
#15. To: aristeides, Cynicom, Eoghan (#13)
#16. To: aristeides (#3)
#17. To: christine (#0)
Ahem ... now, seriously, one absolutely must understand the tribal and clannish Jewish mentality that places race ahead of country, always in fear of being displaced, always needing total control, always creating its own opposition and persecution and always ... always overreaching, thereby leading to ejection or destruction.
#18. To: Horse, aristeides (#16)
There was no other rational reason for the war to last so long.
#19. To: aristeides (#13)
And you still noticeably fail to explain how the behavior of Germany's government during World War One could in any sense be called "internationalist".
#20. To: robin (#2)
Does anyone in the Bush regime ever read a history book? Or do they and the goal is to repeat history?
#21. To: Cynicom (#7)
Jewish control of Germanys economy did NOT happen after Hitler, it was there long before. Chancellor Bruning put it in writing to Winston Churchill as to who the people were in control and named the the two top supporters financially that helped put Hitler in power, both were bank presidents in Berlin and ardent Zionists.
#22. To: richard9151, Horse, Cynicom (#21)
“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"
#23. To: Eoghan, Horse, Cynicom (#22)
There's really not a point in arguing with the Goyimcaust deniers anymore...it's laughable at this point. Every mention of the goy front man mentioned there's a Zionist Jew smiling right beside them.
#24. To: aristeides (#13)
Germany during World War One was run for the internationalist purposes of its Jewish masters? That's a new one, at least on me.
#25. To: richard9151 (#19)
It is not an accident that Germany lost all of her overseas possessions as a result of WWI.
#26. To: Eoghan, Cynicom (#22)
#27. To: Cynicom (#24)
It seems it contains two suppositions, one, "internationalist purposes" and two, "its Jewish masters".
#28. To: Cynicom (#25)
In that process the seeds of WW2 were laid before WW1.
#29. To: Cynicom (#24)
Chancellor Bruning was in fact confirming that PRIOR to 1932 the two largest banks in Berlin were in fact Hitler supporters.
#30. To: Eoghan (#22)
Every mention of the goy front man mentioned there's a Zionist Jew smiling right beside them.
#31. To: aristeides (#30)
“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"
#32. To: The Thread (#30)
#33. To: aristeides (#30)
I take it you've been studying the works of Dr. Goebbels?
#34. To: Cynicom (#33)
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If you find insults to be impressive or useful, you are wrong.
#35. To: lodwick (#32)
oops
#36. To: aristeides (#34)
If you had read as much of Dr. Goebbels as I have, you might recognize the similarity of the ideas.
#37. To: Cynicom (#36)
Every mention of the goy front man mentioned there's a Zionist Jew smiling right beside them.
#38. To: robin (#2)
Does anyone in the Bush regime ever read a history book?
Steven Wright
#39. To: richard9151 (#17)
MARIA THERESA, Queen of Hungary and Bohemia (1771 1789): "Henceforth no Jew, no matter under what name, will be allowed to remain here without my written permission. I know of no other troublesome pest within the state than this race, which impoverished the people by their fraud, usury and money lending and commits all deeds which an honorable man despises. Subsequently they have to be removed and excluded from here as much as possible."
#40. To: innieway (#38)
#41. To: richard9151 (#23)
"But whence comes this sinister marvel (the progressive Judaic Power)? It comes from the failing of the Christian faith..."
 | Capitalism is NOT an economic system, it's a RELIGION for ASSHOLES! |
#42. To: Elliott Jackalope, innieway, robin, noone222, Red Jones, Eoghan, who knows what evil, Rickyj, ..., Ferret Mike, ghostdogtxn, HOUNDDAWG, ALL (#41)
have y'all seen this? "This section explores the little known foundations of the cult of Equinoctial Christolatry (Christianity) which unannounced to most rests in the astrotheological belief systems ancient world." i'd be interested to know your opinion of this information.
#43. To: noone222 (#39)
Antonia Fraser, in her recent biography of Maria Theresa's daughter Marie Antoinette, describes how Maria Theresa sickened with pneumonia and died. Here's a description of her illnesses late in life in Pathography and biography of the Empress Maria Theresa: A death from pneumonia at the age of 63 was not unusual in that period.
After her husband's death she started suffering from depression with steady necrophile obsessions. Maria Theresa suffered from a chronical obstructional pulmonary disease (asthma), rehumatic syndromes, hypertension and anxiodepressive syndromes. In 1767 she had small pox. In November 11th 1780 she caught a cold which grew into a pneumonia with high fever. She died of cardiopulmonal dedompensation preceded by pneumonia and asthma.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
#44. To: innieway (#38)
Exactly, my friend. Just to mention Scriptures and history in the same breath is akin to what? Blasphamy to most. (I tink I butchered that word!) And you are right again! If Revelation says it won't happen, TAKE IT TO THE BANK!
IF the majority of people could make this distinction, THEN perhaps we could "make a difference"... Revelation says it won't happen, and I tend to believe it.
When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest.
#45. To: robin (#40)
robin, you need to read up on the Black Pope. Really, you do. Just because the power is well hidden, does not mean it does not exist! We have been told this countless times in history, that there is a hidden hand behind ALL powers.
Today the Vatican has influence but not any real power like it once held.
When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest.
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