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Science/Tech See other Science/Tech Articles Title: Creationist Perspectives on Antediluvian (Pre-flood) Civilizations I have noted two of the many files that are available at this site, which includes pictures. Enjoy. CRETACEOUS HAMMER In June of 1934, members of the Hahn family discovered this rock with wood protruding from it. They chiseled it open, exposing the hammer head. The artifact was found near London Texas by a waterfall on Red Creek. This site is part of a large geographical zone called the Edwards Plateau and it primarily consists of Cretaceous rock. Several miles upstream, masses of fossils are found that match the fossils in this concretion. The artifact is now part of the collection at Creation Evidences Museum where it has been extensively analyzed. The handle is fossilized with a blackened coal tip and the head is made out of a rare iron mixture with chlorine. Could this be a pre-flood tool? Many scientists have expressed skepticism since the artifact was not found in situ by a professional, but the composition (chlorine fabricated with metallic iron) remains a puzzling enigma. BELL IN COAL In 1944, as a ten year old boy, Newton Anderson dropped a lump of coal in his basement and found that it contained this bell inside. The bituminous coal that was mined near his house in Upshur County West Virginia is supposed to be about 300 million years old! What is a brass bell with an iron clapper doing in coal ascribed to the Carboniferous Period? According to Norm Sharbaughs book Ammunition (which includes several "coal anecdotes") the bell is an antediluvian artifact (made before the Genesis Flood). The Institute for Creation Research had the bell submitted to the lab at the University of Oklahoma. There a nuclear activation analysis revealed that the bell contains an unusual mix of metals, different from any known modern alloy production (including copper, zinc, tin, arsenic, iodine, and selenium). Genesis 4:22 states that Tubal-Cain was "an instructor of every artificer in brass and iron..." Perhaps when his civilization came to an end in the flood, this bell was buried with a mass of vegetation that became coal and ended up thousands of years later in Newt Andersons coal bin. The bell was prominently featured in the 1992 CBS docudrama production called Ancient Secrets of the Bible and is now part of the Genesis Park collection. At our request, Mr. Anderson was examined by an expert polygraph specialist to further validate his claims. The reports can be seen here. For more detailed pictures of the bell and the demon-like figure on top, click here. A handful of other such accounts have been recorded, including the intricate gold chain found in coal (Sanderson, Ivan T., Uninvited Visitors, 1967, pp. 195-196.) and the cast iron pot found in a coal seam at the Municipal Electric Plant in Thomas, OK (now archived at Creation Evidence Museum). Ancient Atomic Knowledge? by Ooparts & Ancient High Technology - Evidence of Noah's Flood Ancient civilizations and modern man by David Criswell. Creation Magazine Vol. 17 Issue 2 Currents of conspiracy History, Pre-History, Archaeology, and Evolution News Archive Forbidden Archeology by Michael A. Cremo @ http://Amazon.com Fossilized Human Finger by Preflood Traditions The Weakness of John Pilkey's Origin of the Nations by Roy L. Hales Signs of Ancient City off Cuba 2/01/01 The mystery of ancient man by Steve Cardno. Creation Magazine Vol. 20 Issue 2 The Riddle of the Ooparts by Charles Scott Kimball Underwater Cities; Noah's Flood Proof? by Ooparts & Ancient High Technology - Evidence of Noah's Flood Antediluvian Artifacts Bell in Coal by Genesis Park Cretaceous Hammer by Genesis Park Forbidden Archaeology by http://Megaraptor.com Forbidden Archaeology (book review) by Genesis Park Odd Things in Wrong Places from Time Upside Down by Erich von Fange Oddities in the Rocks : From The Nikos File by Michaela Magi Griffiths Pot Found in Coal by Creation Truth Ministries Remains in Coal and Rock by Pathlights The Iron Cup in Coal by Creation Evidences Museum Secular References / News Ancient Undersea Walls Discovered off Penghu Taipei Times 11/26/02 Another Underwater City in India 10/24/02 Atlantis Link Database City Under the Sea 12/01/03 - a spectacular underwater archaeological find by a joint British-Indian diving team that could rewrite history. Mysteries Fact or Fiction Mysterious finds, million-year-old Pravda.RU 9/13/02 Gold / silver alloy hair found in Antarctica ice cores. Northern sea baffles archaeologists - PRAVDA.Ru 3/11/04 Remains of an ancient civilization discovered in the depths of the Northern sea. Tamil Nadu´s Ancient Cities May Predate Mesopotamian Civilization - INDOlink - News - 1/5/03 Underwater Temple Discovered 12/31/01
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Mr. and Mrs. Max Hahn were hiking along the Red Creek near the small town of London, Texas, in June 1936 (or 1934, according to others), when they happened upon a small rock nodule with a piece of wood protruding from it. According to Helfinstine and Roth (1994), Max Hahn's son George broke open the rock nodule in 1946 or 1947, revealing the rest of the hammer, including a metal hammer head. It is important to note that even some creationist accounts (Baugh 1997, Mackay, 1985) acknowledge that the hammer bearing nodule was not attached to the surrounding rocks of the creek. Mackay (1985) explicitly states "The rock was sitting loose on a ledge and was not part of the surrounding ledge." Likewise, creationist David Lines notes that the rock containing the hammer was found "sitting loose on a rock ledge beside a waterfall outside London, Texas."(Lines, 1996). Evidently no photos or other reliable documentation exists to confirm the exact circumstances of the original discovery. However, the lack of sharp marks on the nodule seems to confirm the reports that it was found loose and not chiseled from a larger rock. - - - - - - Although the hammer has been kept under close guard by Baugh and thus not readily available for detailed analysis by conventional scientists, in 1985 NCSE researcher John Cole briefly reviewed Baugh's hammer claims. Although Cole did not challenge Baugh's presumption at the time that the nearby rocks were Ordovician, Cole pointed out that minerals dissolved from ancient strata could harden around a recent object, stating: The stone is real, and it looks impressive to someone unfamiliar with geological processes. How could a modern artifact be stuck in Ordovician rock? The answer is that the concretion itself is not Ordovician. Minerals in solution can harden around an intrusive object dropped in a crack or simply left on the ground if the source rock (in this case, reportedly Ordovician) is chemically soluble (Cole, 1985). Cole also noted that the hammer is of "recent American historic style," and concluded that it was probably a 19th century miner's hammer. Others have suggested that it might be a metal working hammer, and that the protrusion on one end of the head might have once contained a leather or wood cap that has since weathered away (Helfinstine and Roth, 1994). Perhaps further research will clarify its actual use and precise age.
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