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Title: Creationist Perspectives on Antediluvian (Pre-flood) Civilizations
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URL Source: http://www.nwcreation.net/antediluviancivilizations.html
Published: Aug 24, 2007
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Post Date: 2007-08-24 00:23:44 by richard9151
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I have noted two of the many files that are available at this site, which includes pictures. Enjoy.

CRETACEOUS HAMMER

In June of 1934, members of the Hahn family discovered this rock with wood protruding from it. They chiseled it open, exposing the hammer head. The artifact was found near London Texas by a waterfall on Red Creek. This site is part of a large geographical zone called the Edwards Plateau and it primarily consists of Cretaceous rock. Several miles upstream, masses of fossils are found that match the fossils in this concretion. The artifact is now part of the collection at Creation Evidences Museum where it has been extensively analyzed. The handle is fossilized with a blackened coal tip and the head is made out of a rare iron mixture with chlorine. Could this be a pre-flood tool? Many scientists have expressed skepticism since the artifact was not found in situ by a professional, but the composition (chlorine fabricated with metallic iron) remains a puzzling enigma.

BELL IN COAL

In 1944, as a ten year old boy, Newton Anderson dropped a lump of coal in his basement and found that it contained this bell inside. The bituminous coal that was mined near his house in Upshur County West Virginia is supposed to be about 300 million years old! What is a brass bell with an iron clapper doing in coal ascribed to the Carboniferous Period? According to Norm Sharbaugh’s book Ammunition (which includes several "coal anecdotes") the bell is an antediluvian artifact (made before the Genesis Flood). The Institute for Creation Research had the bell submitted to the lab at the University of Oklahoma. There a nuclear activation analysis revealed that the bell contains an unusual mix of metals, different from any known modern alloy production (including copper, zinc, tin, arsenic, iodine, and selenium). Genesis 4:22 states that Tubal-Cain was "an instructor of every artificer in brass and iron..." Perhaps when his civilization came to an end in the flood, this bell was buried with a mass of vegetation that became coal and ended up thousands of years later in Newt Anderson’s coal bin. The bell was prominently featured in the 1992 CBS docudrama production called Ancient Secrets of the Bible and is now part of the Genesis Park collection. At our request, Mr. Anderson was examined by an expert polygraph specialist to further validate his claims. The reports can be seen here. For more detailed pictures of the bell and the demon-like figure on top, click here. A handful of other such accounts have been recorded, including the intricate gold chain found in coal (Sanderson, Ivan T., Uninvited Visitors, 1967, pp. 195-196.) and the cast iron pot found in a coal seam at the Municipal Electric Plant in Thomas, OK (now archived at Creation Evidence Museum).


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#3. To: richard9151 (#0)

The ancient Hindus said there was a flood. Before the flood they had a civil war which led to the use of nuclear weapons. This is detailed in the Mahabharata an epic which includes the Bhagavad Gita. There are fossilized remains of an ancient nuclear war in both India and Egypt. The latter were seen by J Robert Oppenheimer when he was a young man.

The ancient Hindus had a sacred mountain Mt Meru which the Vedas say was found on land where the day and the night are 6 months long. This is a metaphor for the south pole. To me this means that the ancients started a nuclear war but God finished it by God when he moved the south and north poles 15 degrees or so. The wind blew at 850 mph for an hour taking the large land animals, the trees and buildings and dumped them in the canyons. Previous pole shifts created our modern coal and oil fields.

If you want to pursue forbidden archaeology try this website: http://www.mcremo.com/

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#4. To: Horse (#3)

The wind blew at 850 mph for an hour

Impressive wind velocitivies.

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#7. To: tom007 (#4)

Impressive wind velocitivies.

Given that the world record is something like 251 MPH (at the top of Mt. Washington in NH), yeah. I wonder how they measured that 850 MPH gust...

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#9. To: Mekons4 (#7) (Edited)

Given that the world record is something like 251 MPH (at the top of Mt. Washington in NH), yeah. I wonder how they measured that 850 MPH gust...

I am thinking that they didn't exactly measure 850.00 mph, they just saw something over the top. Something way beyond anything that they had ever seen and they guessed a value for it.

The sudden shift of the earths axis was talked about a lot back in the 1940s and 1950s. I remember reading about it several times in my dad's old Science and Mechanics magazines. I don't know where the theory stands now.

I've always thought that a lot of these stories describe comet impacts. Sort of like the Tunguska Siberia impact in about 1908. From what I've read, that was a small one and it came off as nuke going off at about 20,000 feet.

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