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Title: 9/11 Shanksville Eyewitness Susan McElwain
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URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gliHOhXYFQ
Published: Aug 28, 2007
Author: Susan McElwain
Post Date: 2007-08-28 19:05:31 by honway
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http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/entity.jsp?entity=susan_mcelwain Susan Mcelwain: Less than a minute before the Flight 93 crash rocked the countryside, she sees a small white jet with rear engines and no discernible markings swoop low over her minivan near an intersection and disappear over a hilltop, nearly clipping the tops of trees lining the ridge. [Bergen Record, 9/14/2001] She later adds, “There’s no way I imagined this plane—it was so low it was virtually on top of me. It was white with no markings but it was definitely military, it just had that look. It had two rear engines, a big fin on the back like a spoiler on the back of a car and with two upright fins at the side. I haven’t found one like it on the Internet. It definitely wasn’t one of those executive jets. The FBI came and talked to me and said there was no plane around.… But I saw it and it was there before the crash and it was 40 feet above my head. They did not want my story—nobody here did.” [Mirror, 9/12/2002]
Interesting.
Why do you continue to torture yourself and us with these 9/11 stories. Jamie Gorelick was on the 9/11 commission. Can't you take a hint?
My hunch is that she saw an A-10. I'd look to see if one was in the 2001 U.S. Forest Service inventory - and "loosely" managed. They do a lot of strange stuff to the benefit of the "Agency."
JASSM Marked as: Featured A video of the Joint Air-to-Surface Standoff Missile (JASSM) being deployed against a bunker. AWACS maybe??
There was indeed a corporate jet that was asked to swing around the area, to look to see if a plane had crashed there. It was on that wonderful 9-11 special the other night, and the FBI, and NTSB also admit to it being in the area.
Dying for old bastards, and their old money, isn't my idea of freedom.
The witness describes the white aircraft at tree top level before the crash. The official story includes an account of the corporate jet descending after the crash.
Not based on the witness's description. An AWACS is a military version of the Boeing 707. I don't think she was describing a 707 flying beneath a power line.
In my opinion, the eyewitness description is not consistent with an A-10.
If the line she is referring to is the one in the video; that doesn't look to be more than thirty feet off the ground, if that. Hell, man...that is LOW...unless she saw a drone or a missle.
The similarity is striking.
Well, then...whatever happened to Todd Beamer?
The thing that really stands out here to me is the only proof provided that a 757 crashed into the Pentagon consists of eyewitness statements and flight data recorder data inconsistent with the flight path required to knock down five light poles. Can you believe eyewitness testimony or not? If you believe this lady, then you must also believe the government lied about United 93. How can someone legitimately say we know a 757 crashed into the Pentagon because of the eyewitness accounts, and then dismiss this eyewitness?
It is a legitimate question? Did they discover his remains?
Precisely why we need a thorough anal exam of this whole September 11 debacle...9/11 Commission? Puh-leeze.
"As coroner, responsible for returning human remains, Miller has been forced to share with the families information that is unimaginable. As he clinically recounts to them, holding back very few details, the 33 passengers, seven crew and four hijackers together weighed roughly 7,000 pounds. They were essentially cremated together upon impact. Hundreds of searchers who climbed the hemlocks and combed the woods for weeks were able to find about 1,500 mostly scorched samples of human tissue totaling less than 600 pounds, or about 8 percent of the total."
Cyni, It was beauty who killed the beast.
Having watched two large aircraft crashes during military time, I accept there is most often little or nothing to reclaim.
We can smell it, but refuse to take it. I suspect soon, the Executive State will declare that all remains were eaten by Bigfoot. And that will satisfy many. Case closed.
Welcome to 4
I had hoped you'd know by now that I was being sarcastic. Because after all, if it's on that 9-11 special, it has to be true. All kidding aside, I wonder if she's not talking about an A-10.
Dying for old bastards, and their old money, isn't my idea of freedom.
i hear u. If it weren't for Bld 7 and that insurance scam by Mr Silver-dump i'd prob stuff a Pug in my shorts whistle Dixie :)
Thanks Zipporah!
http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/a-10/images/a10_2.jpg This sure as shit looks like what she's describing to me.
Dying for old bastards, and their old money, isn't my idea of freedom.
Youre welcome..glad you've joined us!
Exactly right.
"First they ignore you. Then they ridicule you. Then they fight you. Then you win." --Mahatma Gandhi
People lie and scam, make errors but math does not and when one does the math on 9/11 2 plus 2 comes out five. Something amiss there somewhere but the unwashed masses will never know.
I understand, that in such times of war, and insanity, it is the young students, around the world that arise and push the ball of change. As they are so delicate in their years, they fear less about losing 'it all'. Unwashed masses, are those who feel safe in the couch, that ignore the phone, and refuse to go the door if they don't feel like it. The young, answer. To ignore the power the internet has unleashed for change, and it's proof of such most evident in the campaign of Obama and Paul, it to say, all masses are unwashed, therefore, already dead, useless, and deaf. I do believe however, the freedom of the net, as threatened now, is a driver, and a big one. Its containment, censorship, management, ownership, is NOT unnoticed by the avid users. Intrusion is more obvious, and these coddled children, don't like it a bit. Not a bit. They are more likely to see intrusion in everything in their lives, while the the unwashed masses, did not, as they had a warm spot, a remote, and a monthly check to keep them content. Certainly those following the demise of liberty saw this at each step of encroachment. I think things are rolling to an unexpected avalanche. Yet, it shall not be contained. The world is watching. As in Campaign Finance Reform, money seeks it's own level. And look at the mess that created. Why, money still found it's way to the darlings discussed as frontrunners, didn't it. If water and money seek it's level, so shall the truth.
I like that. You think and write well, welcome to 4um.
lol. good one. welcome, Peppa.
I cannot believe how gullible Americans are. Just about everything that the government has stated, from top to bottom concerning 9/11 has been a LIE. Praise the Lord and pass the Kool-aid. 44 People 'instantly cremated' on Flight UAL 93 — two Bibles Survive http://killtown.911review.org /f light93.html "It's a Miracle!" Press 1 for English, Press 2 for English, Press 3 for deportation Death of Habeas Corpus: “Your words are lies, Sir.”
It's best to keep with a believable story./s
You think and write well, welcome to 4um. Thank You Cynicom.
I hope you are not an apple polisher, we have quite enough of those. (inside joke)
Thanks Christine. Everyone knows that BigFoot is camera shy. It's just a matter of time for the truth that plaster casts of giant feet were taken at the crime scene. And then, the BigFoot phenomena occurred. Reviewing BigFoot evidence, truly nails my theory. Though we cannot explain it, sometimes bigfoot tracks seem to disappear. it is not unheard of to be following a clear trail and then find it to end abruptly. We do not believe the bigfoot creatures have the ability to vanish and re-appear, but wonder if they set fake paths of tracks to throw off would be bigfoot hunters. See?
(inside joke) No, I am not Larry Craig, by jiminy. I have not the inclination to polish others fruit. I would like to take this opportunity to say Thank You to the owner of this fine forum. I believe it is moderated wonderfully and stands alone in quality and integrity against it's contemporaries. What a wonderful and warm group! (Did you mean that sort of thing?) The compliment is sincere notwithstanding.
what's that saying, the bigger the lie the more it will be believed? altho, the fact is an overwhelming majority of americans don't believe the government's silly 911 tale.
thank you for saying so.
The compliment is sincere notwithstanding. See, now you went and did it, joined the apple polisher list. I could say something nice about the owners but that goes against my contrarian nature
Geeez.
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#2. To: honway (#1)
They did not want my story—nobody here did.” [Mirror, 9/12/2002]
#3. To: honway (#1)
#4. To: honway, Christine, Robin, Aristeides, Red Jones, Diana, Kamala, All (#0)
#5. To: honway (#1)
“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"
#6. To: honway (#1)
a big fin on the back like a spoiler on the back of a car and with two upright fins at the side.
#7. To: honway (#0)
#8. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#7)
There was indeed a corporate jet that was asked to swing around the area, to look to see if a plane had crashed there.
#9. To: Lady X (#6)
AWACS maybe??
#10. To: SKYDRIFTER (#4)
My hunch is that she saw an A-10. I'd look to see if one was in the 2001 U.S. Forest Service inventory - and "loosely" managed. They do a lot of strange stuff to the benefit of the "Agency."
#11. To: honway (#9)
Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org
#12. To: Eoghan (#5)
JASSM Marked as: Featured A video of the Joint Air-to-Surface Standoff Missile (JASSM) being deployed against a bunker.
#13. To: honway (#12)
Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org
#14. To: who knows what evil (#11)
#15. To: who knows what evil (#13)
Well, then...whatever happened to Todd Beamer?
#16. To: honway (#14)
Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org
#17. To: honway (#15)
Well, then...whatever happened to Todd Beamer?
#18. To: Cynicom (#17)
#19. To: Jethro Tull (#18)
It was beauty who killed the beast.
#20. To: willyone (#3)
Why do you continue to torture yourself and us with these 9/11 stories. Jamie Gorelick was on the 9/11 commission. Can't you take a hint?
#21. To: Peppa (#20)
#22. To: honway (#8)
#23. To: Cynicom (#19)
#24. To: Zipporah (#21)
Welcome to 4
#25. To: All (#22)
#26. To: Peppa (#24)
#27. To: Peppa (#20)
...the Executive State will declare that all remains were eaten by Bigfoot.
#28. To: Jethro Tull (#23)
If it weren't for Bld 7 and that insurance scam by Mr Silver-dump
#29. To: Cynicom (#28)
Something amiss there somewhere but the unwashed masses will never know.
#30. To: Peppa (#29)
(Edited)
If water and money seek it's level, so shall the truth.
#31. To: Peppa (#20)
I suspect soon, the Executive State will declare that all remains were eaten by Bigfoot.
#32. To: honway (#0)
Get my new book "It's a miracle". I tell you how 2 steel skyscrapers
collapsed due to fire for the first time in history. Watch a poor woman standing
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And a building just magically collapsed next to the skyscrapers and I don't even know how.
You'll read how a Boeing 757 with a wing span of 124.10 feet, flying
at 575 mph created this little hole and buried black boxes 25 feet in the ground
where, well, pretty much everything was disintegrated. And that's not all!
You'll discover how FEMA describes this as a fire extinguisher exploding due to heat.
I'll show you how several hijackers were raised from the dead and how
passports can now survive anything on earth.
If you buy my book right now, I'll show you how Larry Silverstein describes "pull it"
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#33. To: angle (#27)
...the Executive State will declare that all remains were eaten by Bigfoot. Exactly right.
#34. To: Cynicom (#30)
If water and money seek it's level, so shall the truth. I like that.
#35. To: Peppa (#34)
Thank You
#36. To: christine (#31)
lol. good one. welcome, Peppa.
See? Footprint and crash evidence, BOTH dissappeared into thin air. ;o >
#37. To: Cynicom (#35)
I hope you are not an apple polisher, we have quite enough of those.
#38. To: Uncle Bill (#32)
I cannot believe how gullible Americans are. Just about everything that the government has stated, from top to bottom concerning 9/11 has been a LIE.
#39. To: Peppa (#37)
I would like to take this opportunity to say Thank You to the owner of this fine forum. I believe it is moderated wonderfully and stands alone in quality and integrity against it's contemporaries. What a wonderful and warm group!
#40. To: Peppa (#37)
(Did you mean that sort of thing?)
#41. To: christine (#39)
thank you for saying so.
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