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Title: 9/11 Shanksville Eyewitness Susan McElwain
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URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gliHOhXYFQ
Published: Aug 28, 2007
Author: Susan McElwain
Post Date: 2007-08-28 19:05:31 by honway
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#1. To: All (#0)

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/entity.jsp?entity=susan_mcelwain

Susan Mcelwain: Less than a minute before the Flight 93 crash rocked the countryside, she sees a small white jet with rear engines and no discernible markings swoop low over her minivan near an intersection and disappear over a hilltop, nearly clipping the tops of trees lining the ridge. [Bergen Record, 9/14/2001] She later adds, “There’s no way I imagined this plane—it was so low it was virtually on top of me. It was white with no markings but it was definitely military, it just had that look. It had two rear engines, a big fin on the back like a spoiler on the back of a car and with two upright fins at the side. I haven’t found one like it on the Internet. It definitely wasn’t one of those executive jets. The FBI came and talked to me and said there was no plane around.… But I saw it and it was there before the crash and it was 40 feet above my head. They did not want my story—nobody here did.” [Mirror, 9/12/2002]

honway  posted on  2007-08-28   19:10:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: honway (#1)

JASSM Marked as: Featured A video of the Joint Air-to-Surface Standoff Missile (JASSM) being deployed against a bunker.

Eoghan  posted on  2007-08-28   19:55:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Eoghan (#5)

JASSM Marked as: Featured A video of the Joint Air-to-Surface Standoff Missile (JASSM) being deployed against a bunker.

The similarity is striking.

honway  posted on  2007-08-28   22:08:07 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: honway (#12)

Well, then...whatever happened to Todd Beamer?

who knows what evil  posted on  2007-08-28   22:12:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: who knows what evil (#13)

Well, then...whatever happened to Todd Beamer?

It is a legitimate question? Did they discover his remains?

honway  posted on  2007-08-28   22:20:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: honway (#15)

Well, then...whatever happened to Todd Beamer?

"As coroner, responsible for returning human remains, Miller has been forced to share with the families information that is unimaginable. As he clinically recounts to them, holding back very few details, the 33 passengers, seven crew and four hijackers together weighed roughly 7,000 pounds. They were essentially cremated together upon impact. Hundreds of searchers who climbed the hemlocks and combed the woods for weeks were able to find about 1,500 mostly scorched samples of human tissue totaling less than 600 pounds, or about 8 percent of the total."

Cynicom  posted on  2007-08-28   22:30:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Cynicom (#17)

Cyni,

It was beauty who killed the beast.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-08-28   22:43:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Jethro Tull (#18)

It was beauty who killed the beast.

Having watched two large aircraft crashes during military time, I accept there is most often little or nothing to reclaim.

Cynicom  posted on  2007-08-28   22:48:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Cynicom (#19)

i hear u. If it weren't for Bld 7 and that insurance scam by Mr Silver-dump i'd prob stuff a Pug in my shorts whistle Dixie :)

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-08-28   23:03:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Jethro Tull (#23)

If it weren't for Bld 7 and that insurance scam by Mr Silver-dump

People lie and scam, make errors but math does not and when one does the math on 9/11 2 plus 2 comes out five. Something amiss there somewhere but the unwashed masses will never know.

Cynicom  posted on  2007-08-28   23:09:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Cynicom (#28)

Something amiss there somewhere but the unwashed masses will never know.

I understand, that in such times of war, and insanity, it is the young students, around the world that arise and push the ball of change. As they are so delicate in their years, they fear less about losing 'it all'.

Unwashed masses, are those who feel safe in the couch, that ignore the phone, and refuse to go the door if they don't feel like it. The young, answer.

To ignore the power the internet has unleashed for change, and it's proof of such most evident in the campaign of Obama and Paul, it to say, all masses are unwashed, therefore, already dead, useless, and deaf.

I do believe however, the freedom of the net, as threatened now, is a driver, and a big one. Its containment, censorship, management, ownership, is NOT unnoticed by the avid users. Intrusion is more obvious, and these coddled children, don't like it a bit. Not a bit. They are more likely to see intrusion in everything in their lives, while the the unwashed masses, did not, as they had a warm spot, a remote, and a monthly check to keep them content. Certainly those following the demise of liberty saw this at each step of encroachment.

I think things are rolling to an unexpected avalanche.

Yet, it shall not be contained.

The world is watching. As in Campaign Finance Reform, money seeks it's own level. And look at the mess that created. Why, money still found it's way to the darlings discussed as frontrunners, didn't it. If water and money seek it's level, so shall the truth.

Peppa  posted on  2007-08-28   23:42:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Peppa (#29) (Edited)

If water and money seek it's level, so shall the truth.

I like that.

You think and write well, welcome to 4um.

Cynicom  posted on  2007-08-28   23:47:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Cynicom (#30)

If water and money seek it's level, so shall the truth. I like that.

You think and write well, welcome to 4um.

Thank You Cynicom.

Peppa  posted on  2007-08-29   9:39:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Peppa (#34)

Thank You

I hope you are not an apple polisher, we have quite enough of those.

(inside joke)

Cynicom  posted on  2007-08-29   9:41:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Cynicom (#35)

I hope you are not an apple polisher, we have quite enough of those.

(inside joke)

No, I am not Larry Craig, by jiminy. I have not the inclination to polish others fruit.

I would like to take this opportunity to say Thank You to the owner of this fine forum. I believe it is moderated wonderfully and stands alone in quality and integrity against it's contemporaries. What a wonderful and warm group!

(Did you mean that sort of thing?)

The compliment is sincere notwithstanding.

Peppa  posted on  2007-08-29   10:00:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Peppa (#37)

I would like to take this opportunity to say Thank You to the owner of this fine forum. I believe it is moderated wonderfully and stands alone in quality and integrity against it's contemporaries. What a wonderful and warm group!

thank you for saying so.

christine  posted on  2007-08-29   10:06:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: christine (#39)

thank you for saying so.

Geeez.

Cynicom  posted on  2007-08-29   10:12:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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