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Title: New DREAD Weapon - Devastating, Jam-Proof And Silent
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URL Source: http://rense.com/general65/dread.htm
Published: May 27, 2005
Author: David Crane
Post Date: 2005-05-27 18:45:59 by Eoghan
Keywords: Devastating,, Jam-Proof, Weapon
Views: 190
Comments: 44
Imagine a gun with no recoil, no sound, no heat, no gunpowder, no visible firing signature (muzzle flash), and no stoppages or jams of any kind. Now imagine that this gun could fire .308 caliber and .50 caliber metal projectiles accurately at up to 8,000 fps (feet-per-second), featured an infinitely variable/programmable cyclic rate-of-fire (as high as 120,000 rounds-per-minute), and were capable of laying down a 360-degree field of fire. What if you could mount this weapon on any military Humvee (HMMWV), any helicopter/gunship, any armored personnel carrier (APC), and any other vehicle for which the technology were applicable? That would really be something, wouldn't it? Some of you might be wondering, "how big would it be," or "how much would it weigh"? Others might want to know what it's ammunition capacity would be. These are all good questions, assuming of course that a weapon like this were actually possible. According to its inventor, not only is it possible, it's already happened. An updated version of the weapon will be available soon. It will arrive in the form of a tactically-configured pre-production anti-personnel weapon firing .308 caliber projectiles (accurately) at 2,500-3000 fps, at a variable/programmable cyclic rate of 5,000-120,000 rpm (rounds-per-minute). The weapon's designer/inventor has informed DefRev that future versions of the weapon will be capable of achieving projectile velocities in the 5,000-8,000 fps range with no difficulty. The technology already exists. The weapon itself is called the DREAD, or Multiple Projectile Delivery System (MPDS), and it may just be the most revolutionary infantry weapon system concept that DefenseReview has EVER come across. DREAD: The Skinny Name: DREAD Weapon System Type of Equipment: Multiple Projectile Delivery System Killer Features: Fires .308 caliber and .50 caliber metal projectiles accurately at up to 8,000 fps (feet-per-second) Features an infinitely variable/programmable cyclic rate-of-fire (as high as 120,000 rounds-per-minute) Electrically powered and virtually silent Capable of laying down a 360-degree field of fire Mountable on any military vehicles, includes humvees and helicopters Weighs only 28 pounds Magazine capacities of at least 50,000 rounds of .308 Cal., or 10,000 rounds of .50 Cal. ammo Related Links: DREAD Centrifuge Weapon System (Centrifuge Gun) Armed/Weaponized Infantry Robots for Urban Warfare and Counterinsurgency Ops DefRev Update: Centrifuge Weapon System Tech for Future Warfare Applications Robo-Soldier Ready for Combat Deployment to Iraq for Urban Warfare/CI Ops Equipment Guide The DREAD Weapon System is the brainchild of weapons designer/inventor Charles St. George. It will be 40 inches long, 32 inches wide, and 3 inches high (20 inches high with the pintel swivel mount). It will be comprised of only 30 component parts, and will have an empty weight of only 28 pounds. That's right, 28 pounds. The weapon will be capable of rotating 360 degrees and enjoy the same elevation and declination capabilities of any conventional vehicle-mounted gun/weapon. The first generation DREAD (production version ), derived from the tactically-configured pre-production weapon, will most likely be a ground vehicle-mounted anti-personnel weapon. Military Humvees (HMMV's) and other ground vehicles (including Chevy Suburbans) equipped with the DREAD will enjoy magazine capacities of at least 50,000 rounds of .308 Cal., or 10,000 rounds of .50 Cal. ammo. But, what is the DREAD, really? How does it work? In a sentence, the DREAD is an electrically-powered centrifuge weapon, or centrifuge "gun." So, instead of using self-contained cartridges containing powdered propellant (gunpowder), the DREAD's ammunition will be .308 and .50 caliber round metal balls (steel, tungsten, tungsten carbide, ceramic-coated tungsten, etc...) that will be literally spun out of the weapon at speeds as high as 8000 fps (give or take a few hundred feet-per-second) at rather extreme rpm's, striking their targets with overwhelming and devastating firepower. We're talking about total target saturation, here. All this, of course, makes the DREAD revolutionary in the literal sense, as well as the conceptual one. According to the DREAD Advantages Sheet, "unlike conventional weapons that deliver a bullet to the target in intervals of about 180 feet, the DREAD's rounds will arrive only 30 thousandths of an inch apart (1/32nd of an inch apart), thereby presenting substantially more mass to the target in much less time than previously possible." This mass can be delivered to the target in 10-round bursts, or the DREAD can be programmed to deliver as many rounds as you want, per trigger-pull. Of course, the operator can just as easily set the DREAD to fire on full-auto, with no burst limiter. On that setting, the number of projectiles sent down range per trigger-pull will rely on the operator's trigger control. Even then, every round is still going right into the target. You see, the DREAD's not just accurate, it's also recoilless. No recoil. None. So, every "fired" round is going right where you aim it. One of the ammunition types the DREAD will be delivering downrange is the "Collision Cluster Round," or "CCR," that will be used to penetrate hard targets. The Collision Cluster Round (CCR) is explained in more detail on the munitions page of the DREAD Technology White Paper (links below). The DREAD Advantages Sheet also lists all the other advantages that the DREAD Weapon System enjoys over conventional firearms. And, all this from a weapon that doesn't jam. Remember how at the beginning of the article I wrote "no stoppages or jams"? The DREAD won't jam because, according to its inventor, it can't jam. The DREAD's operating a nd feeding mechanisms simply don't allow for stoppages or jams to occur. It thus follows that the DREAD Centrifuge Weapon will be the most reliable metallic projectile launcher/ballistic device on the planet. DefRev is not at liberty to publish exactly why the DREAD can't jam, since Mr. St. George hasn't given us permission to describe the gun's operating and feeding mechanisms in any detail. The only thing the DREAD's operator will really have to worry about is running out of ammo, which isn't likely. Any reasonably skilled gunner (Humvee, APC, Apache attack helicopter, etc.-- doesn't matter) should be able to avoid running through all 50,000 (or more) rounds of .308 Cal. or 10,000 (or more) rounds of .50 Cal. ammo prematurely, especially when he or she can dial down the DREAD's cyclic rate to 5,000 rpm or slower, if necesssary. Even if it becomes necessary to increase the DREAD's magazine capacity to upwards of 100,000 rounds (.308 Cal.) or 20,0000 rounds (.50 Cal.), and run the weapon all day and all night for weeks on end, this will have absolutely no effect whatsoever (positive or negative) on the reliability or durability of the weapon system. The DREAD is both heatless and frictionless, and doesn't generate any high pressures. So, there's virtually no wear and tear on the system, no matter how many rounds are fired through it back-to-back, even if it's run constantly on full-auto at 120,000 rpm, the whole time. DefenseReview.com (DefRev) is an online tactical technology magazine that focuses on advanced tactical armament, tactical equipment/gear (including combat/tactical camouflage technology), and tactical training/instruction for military infantry forces. DefenseReview.com strives to provide the most up-to-date information on law enforcement (LE) SWAT/SRT and military Special Operations (infantry)/Special Warfare (SPECWAR) technology developments as quickly as we learn about them. World Exclusive Video! DREAD Weapon System: Devastating, Jam-Proof, and Silent.
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#3. To: Eoghan (#0)
Your defense dollars at work (hopefully not.) No recoil is a physical impossibility. It maybe be possible to dampen the recoil -- spread it out over time so it's not such a strong impulse. A really high, sustained rate of fire should produce an approximately constant force opposite to the direction of fire.
I bet it's cancelling recoil. Centrifuge gun makes me think it's a glorified sling shot. Maybe a plate spinning at a high rate that moves the bullets to the outer rim and then releases them. This, however, would have a recoil. What you would need is two plates, one on top of the other, spinning in opposite directions. They both release a bullet at the same instant. Here, there would still be a recoil, but one recoil would cancel the other. Sort of like two cannons, back to back, that fire at the same moment. The advantage of the plate arrangement is that recoil can be cancelled with both projectiles fired in the same direction.
What this video..(slow to load its Quicktime) what i gather from this is the reason there is no recoil is because the ammunition is propelled by centrifical force.. and by saying its totally undetectable..seems to say there is no explosion (no gases) propelling the ammunition? Movie
I've watched that video, but I need to ponder this a bit more, maybe even crack open and old engr text...but That satellite mounted scene in the video makes no sense. Any expulsion of mass however propelled will cause 'thrust' (similar to recoil) and would move the satellite's position. They may be claiming there is no recoil from explosive charges, but however the round is released there is an opposing force that must be absorbed (by the helicopter or vehicle). Based on the video, the device is a disk with a barrel mounted radially out from the center and it appears the rounds (spheres) exit along that radius, which implies however the centrifugal energy is applied, it is *not* applied at the edge: Imagine a top-down view like above. Ignore the horizontal line, or better still shift it up to the 40% grid line on the chart so it's still horizontal but then connected to the center of the larger circle and the edge of the inner circle - that would make it the 'barrel'. The barrel is mounted along the radius of the larger circle, which is also tangential to the smaller inner circle. Perhaps the larger rotating disk feeds a round to the edge of the inner disk where they meet and the inner disk then accelerates the round around to the center where the round is released at the center of the larger circle into the barrel, with most of its energy at that point being directed along the barrel. Perhaps the round is held and released with magnets, and maybe even guided into the barrel with a magnetic funnel. Both disks rotate in the same direction, say counter clockwise, the larger disk imparts some of the kinetic energy to the round and then transfers it to the inner disk which imparts all the final energy. The larger disk serves as the 'clip' or 'belt' and holds a resevoir of rounds (which get replenished somehow) and also serves as the feeding mechanism, while the smaller disk serves as the 'firing' chamber. Perhaps Adamselene, our resident physicist has a thought or two?
If the gun is mounted on a platform, and if the gun takes a round that is stationary wrt the platform and ejects from the round from platform a a high velocity, then the platform upon which the gun is mounted must absorb a recoil equal and opposite to the force that accelerated the round. It doesn't matter what path the round took to achieve it's ejection velocity. The conservative field, when integrated up, will be equal to the force required to accelerate the round to the velocity at which it was ejected from the platform.
Agreed. That is why the satellite scene in the video puzzled me. For all practical purposes a satellite firing the DREAD is effectively firing thrusters - same as recoil - and the satellite will be pushed (thrust) in the opposite direction - which seems like a problem for a satellite. Well I don't agree that two opposite spins can simultaneously fire forward (one direction) without any force component in the 'backward direction'. Your statement would be true if two shots were fired in exactly opposite directions (as in your "sort of like"), but you did say both shots "forward", nor does the DREAD appear to be configured for opposing dual shots.
I think you are right. Think of the two sling shots in outer space with no other forces. Now draw a box around the firing platform, whatever it is. Two bullets are at rest WRT to the platform. The two bullets are then accelerated - somehow, we don't care how - and then ejected from the "box" at hight speed. The kenetic energy of the box is increased by an opposite and equal amount.
Agreed. For a satellite, that equal & opposite kinetic energy (thrust) would be a problem, I would think. For a vehicle or helicopter with a much larger mass and it's own opposing motive power, it would be manageable recoil. So I don't understand the 'no recoil' claim.
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#5. To: Tauzero (#3)
No recoil is a physical impossibility.
#8. To: crack monkey, Tauzero (#5)
#21. To: Zipporah, crack monkey, Tauzero, adamselene (#8)
#23. To: Starwind (#21)
#36. To: crack monkey (#23)
the platform upon which the gun is mounted must absorb a recoil equal and opposite to the force that accelerated the round.
Hence, two oppositely spinning slingshots could fire two rounds forward with no net recoil. Sort of like two convetional guns firing in exactly opposite directions.
#38. To: Starwind (#36)
Well I don't agree that two opposite spins can simultaneously fire forward (one direction) without any force component in the 'backward direction'.
#39. To: crack monkey (#38)
The kenetic energy of the box is increased by an opposite and equal amount.
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