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Title: Trans-Texas Corridor: Can this possibly be stopped?
Source: RENEWAMERICA.us
URL Source: http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/herring/070901
Published: Sep 3, 2007
Author: Joshua Herring
Post Date: 2007-09-03 17:14:28 by richard9151
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September 1, 2007

Joshua Herring

RenewAmerica analyst

Perhaps it isn't going to be as easy for big government and big business magnates to abusively strip Americans of their homes, their businesses, and their property as they originally thought it would be following the latest Supreme Court ruling on eminent domain. In an analysis published by RenewAmerica not long ago titled "A three pronged attack to bring down America," I dealt to some extent with the Free Trade Agreements NAFTA and CAFTA, and I outlined some of the potential threats involved.

One of the things I touched on is what has been called "North America's SuperCorridor." This is a byproduct of NAFTA that is to be a highway four hundred yards wide. Actually, there are plans in the works that will link another stretch of highway to this "SuperCorridor" that is to run up from Panama to facilitate plans being made for the sake of CAFTA as well, but I lack both the time and the room get into all that here.

Bigger is not always better

At any rate, as I said before, this "SuperCorridor" is to run through several Mexican states and then through Texas, Oklahoma, Missouri, Kansas, Indiana, Michigan, Illinois, Nebraska, Minnesota, North Dakota, and South Dakota, and the Canadian provinces of Manitoba and Ontario. When I saw a map drawn to scale of this highway, in all its width and immensity, with all the necessary connecting links that are planned for Texas to go where they need it to, I was awestruck. The average American citizen has no idea how much turf the Texas Department of Transportation and global enterprises will have to chew up to facilitate their plans.

As one begins to look into this matter, it quickly becomes obvious that the good of the American people cannot possibly be served by swallowing up the nation the way they plan to with this highway. And this is only one of many devastating aspects of the overall objective. The economic plans that are in the works will swallow the American economy the way the SuperCorridor will swallow up the turf. In fact, although many Americans aren't seeing what is going down for what it really is just yet, our economy is already half chewed and digested by men of global power and prestige — both within and outside of national governments — as a result of their insatiable appetite for even more money and power than they already have.

What is at the root of all this?

Of course, those involved in the planning try and dignify the plans as if their interests and motives are virtuous, noble, and in the best interest of the public. But just in case anyone is missing the point, despite any amount of denial by those involved in what is going on, this is all part of a long-range plan to form a North American Union. (NAU) The reason so few people are aware is that at this point it is still a matter of covert action, involving the Bush government, the Canadian government, and the Mexican government, coordinating with members of high-powered multinational corporations to sustain a plan that has been methodically going forward for many years now. It is also a plan which, despite all the denials being put forth by those involved, will take us right where the European Union has taken so many nations.

By virtue of multinational economic cooperation on a level unprecedented in all of global history, things that become necessary to facilitate such cooperation gradually dissolve that which distinguishes national identities. This is caused by, among other things, the diminution of private economic interests and enterprises — such as small businesses that have always been such an important part of American life — and which are one of the foundations of what was for so long known as "the American dream."

Is it actually progress or just a big facade?

In the transition that takes place as a result of radical economic integration, many of the national economies become weakened in areas and ways that make them increasingly vulnerable to — and dependent upon — the multinational system. They are first seduced and then drawn in before being brought under submission to the system. This is passed off as "progress" by those who benefit from such dissolution and destruction of traditional lifestyles and cultures. The many (commoners) increasingly suffer and pay the price, as the few (elites) continue to take greater control of nations and of the lives of the many — sapping the substance out of their lives, destroying their national heritage, and swallowing up their inheritance as a result.

This, of course, will inevitably lead to a common currency — and to what amounts, for all intents and purposes, to a shadow government that supersedes national governments in many areas — gradually abolishing the sovereignty of every nation involved. It all starts with the kind of economic planning and cooperation that has given birth to the idea of "North America's SuperCorridor, " the first American stage of which is to begin with what is referred to as the Trans-Texas Corridor.

The Trans-Texas Corridor

I intend to do a fairly extensive analysis on the NAU that is forming that will require a series with at least three segments to cover even the bare essentials sufficiently. However there is something I believe everyone should know about right now. There are some of you out there who need to prepare for the same kind of action to save your property from being brutally and unjustly seized by government agencies in days to come. In the last analysis on things related to this subject I wrote:

When I consider the most recent Supreme Court decision pertaining to eminent domain, I think, "How utterly convenient that is, and what a coincidence." This ruling permits local governments to seize homes and businesses for private projects that "promote economic development." This was a highly irregular decision by the Court, to say the very least, and it was certainly well-timed to facilitate the needs of those planning the "SuperCorridor." This highway is to provide not only truck routes entering the United States from Mexico; it will include both passenger and freight railroad lines that run alongside of oil and natural gas pipelines.

The Supreme Court ruling of which I speak, Kelo v. City of New London, has made it easy for government agencies to virtually strip American citizens of their homes and businesses with little or no meaningful opposition. The Texas legislature tried to at least slow down the Trans-Texas Corridor. But the governor, Rick Perry, did some hardnosed work to prevent any effective opposition to the Corridor, and he had it aced . . . or so he thought.

To put it in the words of one person I talked to: "All of the agreements were forged in darkness. Sunshine laws are banned regarding the NAU, SAPP, TTC and the rest of the NAFTA superhighway." (Laws that preserve and encourage openness are known as "Sunshine Laws.")

Greedy and corrupt politicians are being used as facilitators by globalists

By the time Gov. Perry was finished shooting down proposed legislation in Texas — part of which would have imposed a two-year moratorium on the TTC if Governor Perry hadn't vetoed the bill, and some of which would have strengthened the grip of Texas citizens on their rights and their property — the Texas Department of Transportation was exempt from observing Historical Landmark Preservation laws, open-process competitive bidding, open-meeting negotiation the public can attend, public release of proposals and research, and scrutiny regarding environmental impacts, because they're doing that themselves . . . or so they thought — but:

TxDoT isn't Santa Anna, this isn't the Alamo . . . and these Texans believe they can win!

TxDoT, Gov. Perry, and his big business supporters thought they had it aced. There was just one little problem with all this. In order to build the Trans-Texas Corridor, estimates regarding how much private property would have to be seized under eminent domain land-grab laws have been as high as 584,000 acres. This is to say nothing of the other states I mentioned this highway going through. I'm talking about 584,000 acres in the state of Texas alone. Well, some Texans did the math and decided that there must be something that can be done about it . . . and it seems they were right.

Furthermore, there are some real Jim Bowie and Davy Crocket types among them who are just brave enough and stubborn enough to make a stand and fight for their principles all the way down the line, whatever the cost. This fight is liable to become very dangerous at some point — there are billions of dollars on the line, some of which has already been spent. But these people did some investigating into local laws in their counties and found out that they don't really have to lie down and allow Perry, TxDoT, and Cintra-Zachry Construction Corporation to run over them like that.

There are laws on the books in the state of Texas that require state agencies to cooperate with local entities on such projects or the agencies cannot do anything at all. And now that these Texans have learned of this, the proponents of the Trans-Texas Corridor, despite all their big money backing and political clout, have a real fight on their hands.

Serving papers . . . and a big surprise over who has the upper hand at this point

As of Monday, August 27, Gov. Perry, the Texas Department of Transportation, and the Environmental Protection Agency were notified of the move to stop the TTC. The four Texas cities of Bartlett, Holland, Little River-Academy, and Rogers formed the Eastern Central Texas Sub-Regional Planning Commission (ECTSRPC) to fight the TTC. Moreover, among other things, they are depending on federal court decisions that have set precedents in favor of landowners, but never involving something of this magnitude, in other federal districts to add backbone to the local laws they are utilizing.

The mayor of Holland, Texas — Mae Smith — has been elected president of the ECTSRPC. In the words of the newly elected president: "This is one issue all four cities are united behind to save our rural way of life." Ralph Snyder, a member of the commission who is business owner from Holland said:

The purpose of this Commission is to give us a voice in this process. It's our land that the Texas Department of Transportation and our Governor want to take and we are not going to let them pave us over and ignore the concerns of our communities.

The newly formed commission, in an unprecedented move, was formed using the Texas Local Government Code, Chapter 391. This allows cities to develop plans for their local region and to force the state agencies to coordinate with their activities. Under Chapter 391.009(c), TxDoT is required to coordinate with commissions to ensure effective and orderly implementation of state programs at the regional level. The vice president of the newly formed commission, Ronnie White, said: "TxDoT must coordinate with us before they can implement their plans in our region." He also stated that "The TTC is driven by greed and has no respect for our rural way of life." This would have to be the understatement of the century, in my estimation.

After long consultations with attorneys and massive investigation, commission members concluded that there are no loopholes for the state agencies to exploit here. Therefore, under state law, TxDoT will be required to work with the ECTSRPC and coordinate their plans with the local group before any land is taken or any construction begins. Feeling that she is standing on firm ground after all the deliberations and planning and consultations with attorneys, Smith said: "If not, they are in violation of the state statute and we are prepared to take them to court if necessary."

In conclusion

The reason the EPA is being notified is because TxDoT has submitted a Draft Environmental Impact Statement, but they did not coordinate with local government as required under the law. It looks as if TxDoT really has some problems ahead. Some of the work they thought they had finished was done in vain, and the money they spent so doing poured down the drain.

I was offered copies of the letters that were sent to the overbearing government agencies involved, but the letters have since become a matter of public record. In the interest of conciseness, I am just going to share a link to a website that is being formed to share that information and much more in days to come. These people want other Americans to be inspired, to know there is something that can be done, and to learn some things about how to deal with government entities that try to rob them of their land, their rights, and their American heritage

It is time for Americans to wake up to what is going on. It is time to mount up in unified challenges to the threat before big business and an increasingly corrupt government in America takes everything we have, strips us of the few constitutional rights they haven't already stolen, and destroys our way of life completely. There is a clear and present danger here — and the deadline for getting started doing something about it was yesterday — so we had better get moving. The link to the website is: www.stewards.us.

Please help me pray for the people in Texas who are fighting this battle. They are going to need God's help, and possibly more than favor with the judges. What I said about the fact that they could find themselves in real danger due to the billions of dollars of work that has been planned, some of which money has already been spent, was sincere. I have done some talking with them, and these are very bold, brave, and noble Americans who are putting themselves on the line — not only for the sake of trying to protect their own interests, but for the sake of beginning a movement in America that will hopefully reverse the corrupt trend behind the Trans-Texas Corridor and help lead to the saving of this nation.

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#9. To: richard9151 (#0)

Trans-Texas Corridor: Can this possibly be stopped?

Since gunfire won't happen, the answer is no. Our tiny, scattered remnant couldn’t agree on what topping to put on a pizza, never mind find a political solution to globalization. The best thing we can do is to try and profit from this changing world, rather than debate endless on what was and what might have been.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-09-04   10:32:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Jethro Tull, IndieTX, robin, diana, max, mirage, lodwick, all, *Agriculture-Environment* (#9)

The best thing we can do is to try and profit from this changing world,

Sorry, but I have no interest in profitting from the misery of others, and that is exactly what you do when you profit from the changing world. It is not possible to profit in any other way today, in this world.

I work. I study. I write (and, Jethro, thousands read what I write), and I share (in many more locations than in 4um).

I have a loving wife, a nice enough home, and food to eat, books to read, and knowledge to share. What more is there to life?

What more is necessary in life?

And by the way, Jethro, I do not wish for gunfire; it is not necessary. What is happening was foretold and can not be stopped. It is also doomed to failure, as it violates all of the Laws of Nature and of God.

richard9151  posted on  2007-09-04   11:40:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: richard9151 (#10)

I have a loving wife, a nice enough home, and food to eat, books to read, and knowledge to share. What more is there to life?

What more is necessary in life?

To summarize the battle cries of a long-dead and well-known man in my family tree:

FREEDOM!

That is what is required. Laying in your bed fat, dumb, and happy, but being a slave is not enough.

Do you have the courage of a William Wallace to stand up for freedom or do you want to lie down and be a slave?

That is the one and only question that needs to be posed in response to your otherwise excellent missive.

mirage  posted on  2007-09-04   14:21:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: mirage (#14)

That is the one and only question that needs to be posed in response to your otherwise excellent missive.

Well, let's take it a step further, shall we?

I have no debt, and have not had for many years. My house is paid for. I have no payments. I have no insurance. I do not have and have not had a drivers lic. for more than 15 years. I have no official documentation from any agency of the United States government, including any State of, and have not had for many, many years. I have not used a Social Security number for any purpose for more than 15 years. I have not had, in any Federal Reserve bank, any bank accounts for more than 15 years. WAY MORE!

Now, would you care to supply the answer as to which of us.... is free? And, understands the basis of freedom?

richard9151  posted on  2007-09-04   14:32:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: richard9151 (#15)

Now, would you care to supply the answer as to which of us.... is free?

I would submit that neither of us are given the machinations running around loose around the both of us that are sweeping the both of us into the same maelstrom.

A lack of documentation doth not a free man create. Nor does a lack of debt; just try not paying your taxes or submitting to the local overlord's whims and see how free you are.

That is true regardless of where you live or what documentation you may or may not carry.

mirage  posted on  2007-09-04   15:03:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: mirage (#16)

I would submit that neither of us are given the machinations running around loose around the both of us that are sweeping the both of us into the same maelstrom.

You have a valid point. In large part, freedom today is more in not coming to the attention of someone in a position of power, and, who wants to use that power. And in large part, that means NOT having something that such a person wants, cause there is no way to stop such a man/woman from taking what they want, by force.

There is, simply, no law. And, no courts (not lawful ones, anyway).

richard9151  posted on  2007-09-04   17:40:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: richard9151 (#21)

In large part, freedom today is more in not coming to the attention of someone in a position of power, and, who wants to use that power. And in large part, that means NOT having something that such a person wants, cause there is no way to stop such a man/woman from taking what they want, by force.

You have a point, but my question still stands. I'll add a few quotes just to further discussion - old phrases and a couple of other questions.

"The only thing that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Burke

"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it." -- Thomas Paine

"But you must remember, my fellow-citizens, that eternal vigilance by the people is the price of liberty, and that you must pay the price if you wish to secure the blessing. It behooves you, therefore, to be watchful in your States as well as in the Federal Government." -- Andrew Jackson

It would appear that the Common Wisdom is that freedom is something one has to fight for or at the very least, work for.

What say you? Is it better to fight for freedom and fail in the attempt or hide hoping to create temporary security?

mirage  posted on  2007-09-04   17:47:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: mirage, *Agriculture-Environment* (#22)

It would appear that the Common Wisdom is that freedom is something one has to fight for or at the very least, work for.

What say you? Is it better to fight for freedom and fail in the attempt or hide hoping to create temporary security?

Oh, you must fight. There is no question of that; that does not mean gunfire. Which is, in the end, self-defeating. Those who live by the sword die by the sword, and that is particularly true for those who confront the beast head-on.

It is a question of how you fight. Those who control the United States are amoung the most disgusting liars that have ever walked the earth.... well, except, of course, for those who preceeded them in the Babylonian Mystery Religion from the time of Babylon to today.

I have been researching and writing for more than 20 years. Closer to 30, actually. And this is what I have learned;

Everytime you confront 'them' openly, you make them stronger as they use you as an excuse to rally their supporters. And today, they would simply label you as a terrorist and use the excuse to pass more laws, and the public would support 'them'.

I have been put in jail; longest time: 90 days. I have friends who have been put in jail, and I have two friends that are in prison, and probably will die there. Nothing was accomplished by what I and my friends went through.... except to make the establishment stronger and more secure.

There is a revolution going on in America, but it is not occurring, by and large, as those in 4um think it should. Actually, innieway and ladybug are a part of that revolution.

It is a green revolution. It is talked about extensively in ACRES USA, where entire communities are turning to the local production of organic food, and rejecting the control of Washington, DC, in how they eat and live.

It is a food revolution, where finally people are taking the lessons to be learned in books such as Fast Food Nation to heart. There are more and more people turning to nutrition as the answer to their health problems than ever before.

It is a medical revolution. It is taking place all across America as more and more people become aware of the problems with the drug establishment and vaccinations, and begin to make decisions based on their health and well-being rather than on following the so-called law.

It is a resistance revolution where, for the first time in generations, parents are beginning to tell their children not to sign up for the military. This MAY mean that a draft is coming, which would be a very good thing.... for the resistance. NOTHING would galvanize that resistance more than a new draft.

It is a religious revolution, where, finally, some of the people who rate themselves as Christian are beginning to question the wisdom of the so-called Christian churches, and actually are beginning to look to the Bible for answers. There is even SHOCK! beginning in some areas to be questions about using state issued marriage lic.

All of these things work together, and they will create, at some point, what is called a tipping point, where the accumlative knowledge of the people is sufficient to create major change in America. And, it will come about by people making informed changes in their lives; changes that are in thier own self-interest, rather than by gunfire, which, in the final analysis, is what 'they' want. Why? Because that is how to create a dictatorship, guarrenteed!

So there are things going on that do not involve gunfire. And, I participate in many of those things. I write. I research. I teach, which is what I have been doing for more than 20 years. It is not as exciting as gunfire, I agree. It does not happen as quickly as gunfire, I agree. And watching how slowly people learn and change is heart breaking.... I KNOW!! But it happens.

And I will give you an example of what I mean, my friend; 4um is different today, than it was on the day I first signed on. And I have received enough personel messages from people who read, and maybe not post much (as lurklers esp.), to know the impact I have had here. That, is what I do. It is not sexy, or exciting, but it is a part of the fight. And, I am consistent in it and I have been consistent in the fight for a long, long time. And, God willing, I will be for a long time yet to come.

The botton line is that no one has to lecture me on the fight; been there, doing that.

The question is, how do you expect to accomplish something. And, how do you measure your accomplishments. From there, we all go forward. Or not. For some, it is simply an excuse to bitch, rather than study, learn, and change. And, the change is what it is all about.

richard9151  posted on  2007-09-05   12:39:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: richard9151 (#27)

Hold on a moment, I think you have some things reversed or taken the wrong way.

Fighting does not have to mean automatically resorting to gunfire but there is no reason why gunfire cannot or should not be the means of last resort. The American Revolution was peacefully trying to work things out (fighting as you put it) for decades before they finally had to give up and take up arms as a last resort.

This is as it should be and it is a gross distortion of the phrase "he who lives by the sword..." to say otherwise. Even a cursory parsing of that phrase puts the lie to 'total pacifism' as an interpretation. There are times when violence is not only needed but required. Otherwise, "if you have not a sword, sell your cloak and buy one" and most of Ecclesiastes turns the Bible into a useless collection of words due to an inability to reconcile or harmonize.

"To everything there is a season" - and that is more true than anyone wishes to realize. It is a shame more people don't understand the cyclical nature of things.

Or, as I like to tell some of my left-leaning friends, "War is not the answer is not the answer and you didn't learn everything you needed to know in kindergarten. War is the very last option when all else has failed and must remain on the table and at the very end. Try everything else first, but, when all else fails, it is and should be still available."

As for changes going through society - there are lots of them and you've outlined many.

As I see it, there is a split going on. Starting in the WWI era, there was a trend toward conformity, a growing trust of authority, and a desire to be "handed answers" that swept the country.

Now that trend is reversing; there is a trend back toward individualism, a distrust of authority, and a desire to seek answers as opposed to being handed answers.

This explains the low approval ratings of Congress, the shuttering of Churches, and the growing discontent among the population.

On the flip side, you have the Establishment determined to sink its feet in and hold on to what it thinks it has a right to. Therefore you have authorities at all levels attempting to lull the populace into maintaining the status quo.

Unfortunately, for them, disruptive and pervasive technologies are making that more and more difficult all the time. Information cannot be controlled any longer and there is a trend toward openness and transparency that is being fought by the establishment who wishes to maintain their special spot in the world.

Anyhow, that's just how I see it from here. Change is a constant and attempts to deny that will, as they always do, end up in failure. People who bury their heads in the sand will end up in trouble, as they always do - and people who wish to be mere followers will wind up even deeper in trouble.

In the end, I fear, there will be violence because it will be required to shake off the shackles that those who promote the status quo wish to bind us with. It will not come quietly, though - it will be done after much handwringing and attempts to deal with matters in ways other than violence, but it will still come.

It will come because "they" don't get it and like the British in the late 18th Century, refuse to acknowledge or accept that things change. Or, as I like I put it, "refuse to acknowledge the cyclical nature of things."

mirage  posted on  2007-09-05   14:11:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: mirage (#29)

Fighting does not have to mean automatically resorting to gunfire

I know. As I said. But what started this is when I said that I do not support the idea of gunfire. I should have added, starting from we the people.

Gunfire will occur. I do not doubt that, BUT, it must be started by 'them.' It can not begin with us, and it was the same way in the 1776; at the Battle of Concord, the British began the war by firing on the militia. And that was preached as a necessity by the ministers of His Word at that time.

What was true then is just as true now, and for the same reasons. Once they begin it, public opinion, just as it did in 1776, turns against them, and, they know this very well. They WISH for Americans, somewhere, to begin the dance that they may begin the slaughter.

The answer in Texas, to the TransTexas corridor is not guns; it is education of more people. And the more that the establishment pushes, the more support they lose; Iraq is a very good example of that. Iraq has done more, at the expense of the people of Iraq, to open eyes in America than anything else.

I have always maintained this; the answer is more education, one on one, American to American, about the facts behind what is going on. The answer, at this point in time, does not rest in confrontation. THAT MUST be begun by 'them.'

richard9151  posted on  2007-09-05   17:02:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: richard9151 (#30)

The people of Texas have already seen the Waco Massacre. One might say that they have already been fired upon.

The anti-NAFTA/anti-Globalization movement has become mainstream. What was once a fiery protest by militant anarchists in Seattle who vandalized Starbucks and McDonalds has morphed and become mainstream.

Already, crackdowns on protests are going on. "THEY" have already fired the first shots. "WE" just haven't acknowledged that yet.

The Trans-Texas Corridor - if it can be delayed just a few years - will never be built. There is a false premise here at work and it will be shown as such.

Globalization requires cheap fuel. Without it, the whole house of cards falls apart quickly.

Mexico is running out of oil.

Cantarell has already peaked and is declining rapidly. PEMEX has stated for the record that Mexico has about seven years' of oil reserves left and then they'll be high and dry. They've been using advanced recovery techniques like nitrogen injection to keep the taps flowing at full speed now for years.

They put a big straw into the hole and have drained it quickly.

Without oil, there will be no transportation and thus no highway.

So, to put the lie to this false premise, all one has to do is hold on and wait a little while. The Environmentalists will keep this tied up in court long enough for Mexico to run low on fuel - the rest will take care of itself.

Of course, this will cause a fresh run for the border once the oil revenues in Mexico peter out. THAT is where the REAL violence will come from as the peasants overrun the border states and wreak havoc upon them. THEN you'll see the gunfire and it won't be pleasant.

The whole thing is a powderkeg, but I don't think it will blow up the way most people think it will. As I see it, the corridor is based on a false premise and we already know that it will show itself as such and blow itself up.

All we have to do is wait....and be prepared for what comes in seven or eight years when Mexico runs out of oil.

mirage  posted on  2007-09-05   18:02:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: mirage (#32)

The people of Texas have already seen the Waco Massacre. One might say that they have already been fired upon.

You and I are pretty much on the same page, but there are differences, and runnning out of oil is one of them. There is a lot more of it around than most realize, even if it is not in Mèxico. I have seen tapped wells in the mountains of Wyo and Col that men told me were just waiting to be used, and that was 20 years ago.

As to Waco, not hardly. If the true story about that ever comes out, it will revolve around illegally manufactured, full automatic M-16 receivers (no serial numbers) made in Mena, AK and transhipped through Waco going to Nicaragra in trade for drugs which came back through Mena to the states. All courtesy of the CIA and Clinton, of course. Some of the men associated with Koresh helped themselves to some of the receivers, which, the way I heard it, Koresh, being a Federal Firearms lic. dealer, then sold under the table at gun shows. That ain't allowed.

The way the seige went, there is not much doubt that the intent from the beginning was to kill everyone, and the way 'they' did, and how the gound was quickly bulldozed and fenced, shows pretty clearly that something needed to be hidden from view.

I also think that one of things that you are not considering is the most important; if there is a flood of people going somewhere, it is very likely to be going in the OTHER direction, towards Mèxico. America no longer produces enough food to feed itself. That is not going to change any time soon, and will put more pressure on the people of America, sooner or later, than anything else.

Our family here has already seen the first of the returning Mèxican workers, who have run out of work in the states, and simply can not afford to sit and wait for more work. That is also something that is not going to change any time soon, not with the slow down in home building and other construction.

So yes, many things are in transition. Reminds me of the curse; may you live in interesting times!

richard9151  posted on  2007-09-05   18:25:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#35. To: richard9151 (#33)

You're right, we differ in a number of ways.

As for oil, there is more to that than either of us know. Oil is Mexico's #1 source of revenue -- remittances comes in second.

The problem with oil is not in the number of wells, but in production capacity. A few years ago, Cantarell was producing 2 million barrels per day. Now it is under a million barrels and production is dropping like a rock.

Most wells in the US are "stripper wells" producing 1-100 barrels per day. There have been no gigantic discoveries in recent years, production costs continue to rise, and demand continues to grow along with global population. Even if the "capped wells" are uncapped, there still won't be enough production to be able to put a dent in the ongoing depletion.

One doesn't have to be a rocket scientist to see a large problem brewing. We're simply not discovering enough oil to replace what we're pumping. Thus, prices will go up. Can anyone say that the Chinese or East Indians will be wanting to give up their cars? Heck no!

The question still remains -- how will Mexico fuel the trucks that will be heading up the NAFTA Superhighway without being able to fuel them? Mexico's oil production is heading off a cliff. How will Mexico import oil without having a method of paying for it?

Without the oil revenue, public services in Mexico will, well, how will they provide anything when their #1 source of revenue vanishes? How will they transport food and goods without oil? Get it from Venezuela? Production in Venezuela has dropped like a rock as Chavez redirects funds from the oil industry there. He is already buying oil from Russia to meet existing contracts since production in Venezuela has fallen off a cliff due to lack of investment.

For now, there may be people returning to Mexico, but once the oil and oil revenue dries up, they'll be heading out once again. There simply is nothing down there to replace it. Like Saudi Arabia, Mexico is dependent on its oil industry for revenue.

Further, without oil, they can't ship goods out of the country. Economic checkmate.

Add to that -- petroleum is required for food production. Alternative methods of crop production are not mainstream. Combines require petroleum-based fuels right now. There are no alternatives on the horizon that can replace it.

So, you'll kindly forgive me, but I see a big checkmate coming on the horizon. Whether I'm right or not - the future will confirm or deny.

Now, what does this bode for the US? Well, most of Mexico's oil exports head to the United States. As those dry up, the US economy will contract as it always does when fuel prices skyrocket. So those who are in the US and those who look around Mexico and decide to head north will get a chilly reception.

But, the future will bring what the future will bring. I still think that the oil depletion in Mexico will put the lie to the "Superhighway".

mirage  posted on  2007-09-05 19:03:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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