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Title: Loss of Arctic ice leaves experts stunned
Source: http://www.guardian.co.uk/
URL Source: http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2007/sep/04/climatechange
Published: Sep 5, 2007
Author: David Adam, environment correspondent
Post Date: 2007-09-05 01:51:48 by robin
Ping List: *Global Climate Change*     Subscribe to *Global Climate Change*
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The Arctic ice cap has collapsed at an unprecedented rate this summer and levels of sea ice in the region now stand at record lows, scientists have announced.

Experts say they are "stunned" by the loss of ice, with an area almost twice as big as the UK disappearing in the last week alone.

So much ice has melted this summer that the Northwest passage across the top of Canada is fully navigable, and observers say the Northeast passage along Russia's Arctic coast could open later this month.

If the increased rate of melting continues, the summertime Arctic could be totally free of ice by 2030.

Mark Serreze, an Arctic specialist at the US National Snow and Ice Data Centre at Colorado University in Denver, said: "It's amazing. It's simply fallen off a cliff and we're still losing ice."

The Arctic has now lost about a third of its ice since satellite measurements began thirty years ago, and the rate of loss has accelerated sharply since 2002.

Dr Serreze said: "If you asked me a couple of years ago when the Arctic could lose all of its ice then I would have said 2100, or 2070 maybe. But now I think that 2030 is a reasonable estimate. It seems that the Arctic is going to be a very different place within our lifetimes, and certainly within our childrens' lifetimes."

The new figures show that sea ice extent is currently down to 4.4m square kilometres (1.7m square miles) and still falling.

The previous record low was 5.3m square kilometres in September 2005. From 1979 to 2000 the average sea ice extent was 7.7m square kilometres.

The sea ice usually melts in the Arctic summer and freezes again in the winter. But Dr Serreze said that would be difficult this year.

"This summer we've got all this open water and added heat going into the ocean. That is going to make it much harder for the ice to grow back."

Changes in wind and ocean circulation patterns can help reduce sea ice extent, but Dr Serreze said the main culprit was man-made global warming.

"The rules are starting to change and what's changing the rules is the input of greenhouse gases." Subscribe to *Global Climate Change*

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#3. To: robin (#0)

For the last 100 years, the "experts," at 20-year intervals, have howled global cooling, global warming, global cooling, global warming.

"Ex-pert" means "has-been" and "drip under pressure." That's "expert."

YertleTurtle  posted on  2007-09-05   7:28:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: YertleTurtle (#3) (Edited)

For the last 100 years, the "experts," at 20-year intervals, have howled global cooling, global warming, global cooling, global warming.

When the anomolies were first detected some scientists thought they represented global cooling. This is because an ice age was the only variation believed possible at that time. Also remember that 1 degree average change doesn't warm the entire earth, some parts like the UK and parts of Europe, are actually cooled by a small average increase in temperature.

Misinterpreting this early research does provide spin to counter facts such as huge loss of Antartic ice over the past 15 years and the current loss of artic ice, but it's so transparent that even Rush has stopped using it. Rush is now telling the goobs that global warming is real, but it just isn't man mande. The corporate interests who would be hurt by warming legislation have given up on the "it doesn't exist" argument.

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#8. To: ..., YertleTurtle, *Agriculture-Environment* (#6)

Most of the warming took place before the 1950s. Also they use ice core proxies to determine past temperature except that the water isotopes distort in the ice. A prime example of this is the younger dryas. They claim it was cold during this period but the plant material and pollen present around preserved mammoths as well as lake sediments prove without a doubt that the climate was warm.

There is a lot of science to counter the global warming spin and that's what it is, spin.

Did you know that they are doing a photo study on the thermometers they use to measure the current temperature? Most of the ones I've seen are located near blacktop, air conditioner vents or on roof tops. Gosh I wonder why they are measuring higher temperatures.

farmfriend  posted on  2007-09-05   8:53:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: farmfriend (#8)

I really hope it's getting warmer and, I believe that it is. I hope to be able to grow my own figs in the Poconos, at 1500 ft. elevation. I hope this becomes possible soon. Until then... at least we can get our zucchini and tomatoes. We could not have those for long if we were globally cooling.

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