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Title: THE AMERO IS REAL, I HAVE ONE TO PROVE IT! (Hal Turner)
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://www.halturnershow.com/AmeroCoinArrives.html
Published: Sep 5, 2007
Author: Hal Turner
Post Date: 2007-09-05 10:24:08 by christine
Keywords: None
Views: 19156
Comments: 85

Three weeks ago, I published a brief snippet on the front page of my web site reporting the governments of the US Canada and Mexico are conspiring in secret to merge the three nations into a new entity called the North American Union.

There has been much talk of this on various internet blogs for over a year. Most of those blogs have been smeared as "conspiracy theorists" and have been largely ignored by the main stream.

What prompted my interest in the issue was money: I was sent professional images of actual AMERO coins by someone in the US Treasury! The person included a note saying they like my radio show and are frightened by what's been going on in secret within our government.

This Treasury Department person was outraged that our country was beginning to coin money as part of a merger that would do away with our country, via a merger the American public knew nothing about!

When I got the professional images of the AMERO coin, I was finally intrigued enough to make mention of it on my web site. My site has gotten over 20 Million visits in the last couple years and is becoming more popular because of the brutal honesty and timely delivery of news that folks don't find elsewhere. This story about AMERO coins would fit my niche of breaking news, so I ran a snippet of a story.

As part of my report, I included the professional images sent to me by the Treasury person. They appear below:

The story went on to say that the US Government has intentionally overspent itself for the purpose of irreversibly Bankrupting the country. The idea is that they will drive the country into economic failure, then when millions of Americans are panicking at the prospect, offer them a solution of merging the three countries as "the only possible way" to avoid losing everything.

They will force Canada into the merger by telling them the US currency they hold and rely upon will be worthless and the only way Canada can even hope to salvage any of the funds is to join the NAU.

They will sell it to the Mexican people by saying it will instantly improve their buying-power and quality of life.

In reality, the value of the US and Canadian dollars will be significantly reduced to counter the worthless peso being absorbed. People in the US and Canada will suffer great financial loss while Mexicans will see significant gain. In the meantime, the financial elite and the politicians they own will make out like bandits!

That's the reason politicians are doing this: to get rich for themselves and their financial elite pals.

The folks in power within government and their buddies in Banking and finance know that in any currency switch, some lose big while others gain big. Really big! In fact, folks with foreknowledge of such a switch can make hundreds-of-millions, perhaps even billions for themselves overnight. Those without foreknowledge (common folks like you and me) usually end up being wiped out.

INSTANT, FULL BLAST "SPIN"

I published the images and the small story and went to bed. I had no idea what my little story would do.

Within a matter of hours, there was a full blown effort to discredit my story and the images as fake.

I was accused of lying. I was accused of having "photoshopped" the images by creating them in Adobe Photoshop.

Within a couple days, a basic web site for AMERO "FANTASY COINS" was erected on the internet and word of that site was spread quickly. The site contained the same images as I had run on my front page, so clearly whatever "SPIN" was happening was being driven by others who also had the professional images.

There was intense effort to claim the whole idea of these coins was a fantasy and there was absolutely no truth to them whatsoever. That effort to "spin" the story out of existence worked. Folks quickly lost interest. I did not.

Get me the real thing by any means necessary

I reached out to the person in the Treasury who first alerted me to the coins. That person told me "The shit hit the fan around here when your story ran." The person went on to say "They told everyone in all the Mints that anyone revealing information about the AMERO would be fired and perhaps even criminally prosecuted for endangering national security."

Ahhhh yes, the grand old catch-all of national security. When they wheel that one out, you just KNOW they're pissed off about something!

I told the Treasury person that the only way anyone might believe this is happening, is for me to actually get one of the coins. The Treasury guy balked. He said "there's no way to get one without stealing it."

I though about that for a moment. . . . . then decided that if my government is concealing the actual Minting of coins for a new sovereign entity which may end up with power over me, but which I haven't been told about, then that government deserves whatever gets done to it.

I told the Treasury person to get me an Amero by any means necessary - even if that meant stealing it. The Treasury person said it would require them to think about for awhile and if it could be done, I would get one in the mail.

I waited. And waited. Frankly, after about three weeks, I lost track of the story -- until today. A real AMERO coin arrived at my home in the mail this afternoon!

The real thing arrives! Today, I received a single 20 AMERO coin in the mail. A real coin. Real metal, really MINTED by the US Mint in Denver, CO. The proof that it is being Minted in Denver is that the coin is stamped with the Mint Identity letter "D" on the bottom right of the side with the eagle just like regular US coins already in circulation today!

VIDEO!

So that you can see this is a real, metal coin, I have made a small video of me holding the coin, turning it, then dropping it on a wooden table top so you can hear what it sounds like when it hits. Download the Windows Media Video here

I WAS RIGHT!

I stand vindicated. All those who claimed I fabricated the images now owe me an apology. All those who claimed these were "fantasy" coins can now explain why anyone in their right mind would spend Millions of dollars to create the rare and expensive professional dies and plates necessary for minting coins that will not be issued?

The simple truth is, the coins are real. The plan to merge the US, Canada and Mexico is real. Our government is lying about it and the fact they are minting money at the Denver Mint bearing the name of Union of North America is proof.

So America, Canada and Mexico, our governments are betraying us and planning to merge our countries without our knowledge or consent, or by financial disaster they bring-on intentionally. What are we going to do about it?

For my part, the Second Amendment comes to mind.

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#46. To: Jethro Tull (#37)

Economist Lawrence Kudlow, whom Mr. Kemp often cites, agrees and says that Federal Reserve Board Chairman Alan Greenspan already has linked the dollar unofficially to an updated form of the gold standard.

You bet it is.

The banksters know exactly how many frauds to swap for the gold they're hoarding like fiends right now.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-09-05   14:31:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: who knows what evil (#10)

Perhaps Turner's agenda is to get people DISCUSSING the 'Amero'...in that; he has succeeded.

If he is pulling a stunt like that, the only success he'll find is in destroying his reputation. I'm having a hard time reconciling that. That's a pretty fucking stupid way of trying to make a point.

I wonder if anyone here has actually ordered any of these "fantasy" coins from ebay or DC Coins?

This country is really sucking-shit-in-hell when the lies can't be determined from the truth anymore.

If I'm really dead, how come I hurt so bad?

Esso  posted on  2007-09-05   15:10:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Critter (#15)

They can also be purchased here:

Damn, I was gonna post that.

You can also see by Turner's pics that the minting quality isn't up to US Mint standards.

It's also too beautiful to be a Mint product.

The "Department of Defense" has never won a war. The "War Department" was undefeated.

Indrid Cold  posted on  2007-09-05   15:38:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: lodwick (#38)

When did we ever have a coin worth anything close to $100?

Never.

One-ounce Platinum Eagles are denominated $100.

The "Department of Defense" has never won a war. The "War Department" was undefeated.

Indrid Cold  posted on  2007-09-05   15:40:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Indrid Cold (#49)

I have seen some of these Ameros. They are indeed nifty to look at, but currency? BAH.

I seriously hope we don't have something like this, because it's going to make my money laundering a lot more difficult.

Seriously, Paper money washes a lot easier in the washing machine, than coinage. Coins get all scratched up and crap like that, and you never find all of them that fly out of your pockets.

Dying for old bastards, and their old money, isn't my idea of freedom.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2007-09-05   16:02:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: TommyTheMadArtist, Critter, lodwick (#50)

Seriously, Paper money washes a lot easier in the washing machine, than coinage. Coins get all scratched up and crap like that, and you never find all of them that fly out of your pockets.

LOL.

The first comment on that Turner page dates back to 8/31/07, so Hal's had almost a week to admit he made an honest mistake.

So I'm going with "attempting to deceive his listeners".

The "Department of Defense" has never won a war. The "War Department" was undefeated.

Indrid Cold  posted on  2007-09-05   16:06:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Esso (#47)

This country is really sucking-shit-in-hell when the lies can't be determined from the truth anymore.

no kidding.

christine  posted on  2007-09-05   16:29:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Indrid Cold (#49) (Edited)

Thanks for the information - that coin is too butt-ugly to own.

Unless you got it at face value - then tons of them would be great.

Join the Ron Paul Revolution

Lod  posted on  2007-09-05   17:39:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Indrid Cold (#51)

So I'm going with "attempting to deceive his listeners".

that makes no sense. why would he do something which could so easily cause him to lose credibility with his audience?

christine  posted on  2007-09-05   18:47:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: christine (#0)

Zipporah  posted on  2007-09-05   19:16:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: lodwick (#38)

In the 19th and early 20th century, there were privately-minted $50 gold pieces which contained nearly 2.5 ounces of gold.

I have a coin with a face value of $200 Canadian.

The U.S. Constitution is no impediment to our form of government.--PJ O'Rourke

DeaconBenjamin  posted on  2007-09-05   19:16:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Indrid Cold (#51)

Watch the CNBC video I just posted..

Zipporah  posted on  2007-09-05   19:16:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Zipporah (#55)

i posted that up the thread some. there's no question that they are planning for the amero.

christine  posted on  2007-09-05   19:18:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: DeaconBenjamin (#56)

In the 19th and early 20th century, there were privately-minted $50 gold pieces which contained nearly 2.5 ounces of gold.

I have a coin with a face value of $200 Canadian.

Nice to know - I wish that you had a thousand, or more, of those suckers.

Join the Ron Paul Revolution

Lod  posted on  2007-09-05   19:53:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: christine (#54)

that makes no sense. why would he do something which could so easily cause him to lose credibility with his audience?

Go fish.

Of course El Rushbo and others make statements that won't stand up under scrutiny either.

The "Department of Defense" has never won a war. The "War Department" was undefeated.

Indrid Cold  posted on  2007-09-05   23:47:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Zipporah (#57)

Watch the CNBC video I just posted..

I expected Jefferies International to be another site shilling gold. Imagine my surprise when I found out they were an investment bank.

Still 'n all, they'll have a hard time pushing this one through. I sure as hell wouldn't want to share a currency with Mexico, and how do you think the Canadians feel about sharing one with us, given current circumstances?

The "Department of Defense" has never won a war. The "War Department" was undefeated.

Indrid Cold  posted on  2007-09-05   23:52:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Indrid Cold (#61)

Oh they dont.. Ive read some articles written by Canadians.. and they are NOT happy about this in any form .. (American Union) ..and they're more informed than Americans far

Zipporah  posted on  2007-09-05   23:54:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Jethro Tull (#31)

If opposition to the NAU is defined as US (using your definition) then Turner would be include.

If he is going to lie outright, or be fooled this easily, it is best for him to shut up.


Enemies of the Republic

Critter  posted on  2007-09-05   23:54:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Indrid Cold (#61)

Still 'n all, they'll have a hard time pushing this one through.

They gave us the Federal Reserve over a Christmas holiday. There is no such thing as a "hard time."

“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"

Eoghan  posted on  2007-09-05   23:55:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Critter (#63)

http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=60828&Disp=38#C38

You haven't demonstrated he lied. Not by a long shot.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-09-06   6:04:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: HOUNDDAWG (#45) (Edited)

It's really sad to see folks who can't get their minds around the very real possibility that our govt intends to destroy America and enslave us all.

It's really sad to see folks who can't get their minds around the very real possibility that our govt intends to destroy America and KILL us all.

When NAFTA/GATT determined we would export industry, production and jobs while importing criminals, the uneducated and unemployed ... the little light bulb should have lighted. Industry is usually located in large cities that won't be needed once industry vanishes and already suffer huge infrastructure deterioration, not to mention the millions of pensioners and 401K recipients that could be eliminated.

Cities filled with whores, pimps, drug dealers, welfare cheats, and many other assorted societal ills would be better if removed ... and with terrorist strikes necessary to frighten the people into submission, we can expect globalist elites will act in a manner appropriate to their goals by leveling Chicago, Philadelphia, Detroit, L.A. etc., while preserving the farmland.

That's my take and has been since 1997. I hope I'm wrong.

"The mighty are only mighty because we are on our knees. Let us rise!" --Camille Desmoulins

noone222  posted on  2007-09-06   6:24:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: noone222, Jethro Tull, Arator, christine, lodwick (#66)

It's really sad to see folks who can't get their minds around the very real possibility that our govt intends to destroy America and KILL us all.

Now Hal is warning everyone that something "very, very, very bad" is going to happen on September 14th. Isn't that the day the military is "standing down" to review security protocols after the nukes were "accidentally" flown to Barksdale yesterday?

Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org

who knows what evil  posted on  2007-09-06   8:41:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Jethro Tull (#65)

You haven't demonstrated he lied. Not by a long shot.

Whatever.


Enemies of the Republic

Critter  posted on  2007-09-06   9:01:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: who knows what evil (#67)

The scheduled safety stand down is odd. Unless the military's changed, the rule was to stop operations and immediately address the issue. Classes, films, drills, etc.

“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"

Eoghan  posted on  2007-09-06   9:37:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: christine, Jethro Tull, richard9151, Cynicom, (#0)

I think I figured out a way that this could all have been an innocent mistake on Hal's part, and if my scenario is possible then I have to eat some humble pie.

Does the Denver Mint take private contracts to mint coins? If it does, it could be that a treasury worker saw them, not knowing they were private production, and became concerned enough to contact Turner.


Enemies of the Republic

Critter  posted on  2007-09-06   9:48:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Critter (#70)

since the coin has both the initials of Carr and the D for the Denver mint, that makes sense.

christine  posted on  2007-09-06   10:32:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: christine (#71)

I have searched and have not been able to find any info on the Denver Mint handling private contracts. I'll try looking again later.


Enemies of the Republic

Critter  posted on  2007-09-06   10:36:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Critter, christine, robin, Zipporah, rowdee, lodwick.Jethro Tull (#70) (Edited)

I posted this on Hal's chat board:

"That coin was cast, not stamped.

Its poor quality and design (not to mention the absence of reeding around the edge) is not something an American mint would ever produce. (The milling or reeding around the edge of our coins would be difficult to cast in perfect detail, at least in pewter. Molten gold is possibly ductile enough to fill all the little grooves, but, that would be a ridiculous solution to a non existent problem and this coin sure ain't gold!)

Here's the proof! Those little stars (or whatever) around the edge of this coin would be nearly impossible to stamp into a blank. The blanks (called planchets) would either have to be smaller than the collar (the other half of a stamping die set) or, pressure would have to be applied to each little star, with each having a separate, floating, star-shaped die around the circumference of the coin (a ridiculous solution to a non existent problem) or if the stars are fixed (the way the rest of a stamping die is) the under sized planchets would be distorted by the hundreds of tons of hydraulic pressure used to stamp the face and back of the coin. They'd be egg shaped and would resemble anything but a professionally minted coin.

Although I believe that The Amero and the NAU are real, that coin is not. It's a cheap, cast novelty using the lost wax process and I'd bet my autographed picture of Sgt York's mother on that.

I'd also bet that it's made of cheap pot metal and would melt completely inside of 30 seconds if heated with a propane or MAPP gas torch.

So, to summarize, the edge of this coin would involve a complete retooling of the mint to replace the reeding of our coins, and it would require a real Rube Goldberg of a machine to stamp those stars into the edge. (with each little star requiring its own hydraulic press). Try to picture all of those presses arranged in a circular pattern, and ask yourself "Why did the mint replace the historical reeding that can be stamped along with the rest of the coin?"

The answer is, They didn't!

These coins are cast like jewelry using the lost wax process. This is how these companies make souvenir coins for their customers, as well as medals such as The Purple Heart which are also cast.

Do a search on the JANVIER REDUCING LATHE, and then ask, "Why turn out such a cheesy looking coin when it's possible to create and then mint works of art (like the ST. GAUDENS DOUBLE EAGLE) that would be more likely to inspire the confidence of an entire continent?" Jim | 09.06.07 - 11:05 am | #"

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-09-06   10:42:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: DeaconBenjamin, critter, Jethro Tull, christine, all (#56)

I have a coin with a face value of $200 Canadian.

One way to do away with the excess dollars AND the middle class in America is simply to declare the dollar dead and trade ummmmm, 10 dollars for one Amero. And if you do not trade, in 2 weeks time, the dollars you hold are no longer legal tender.

Oh, and limit each individual to being able to trade no more than, say, $2,500.00. After all, if you had more cash on hand than THAT, you were obviously a crook anyway (and probably a tax cheat too!).

Do things like this happen in the real world (as opposed to the never-never- land-known-as-the-US)? You bet; there are people in Mèxico with buckets of old Pesos that are no longer worth the metal they were minted with. And, the change in the coinage and currency was done exactly as stated in the first two paragraphs, with time limits and quanity limits.... all done on the orders of the IMF (i.e., the Federal Reserve and the US Congress).

And by the way, the currencies have been carefully manipulated over the last 3 years or so, keeping the Peso at about 10 to 1, so the people in Mèxico would trade 1 Peso for 1 Amero..... and it would REALLY level the two economies.

Painfully, in the US.

When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest.

richard9151  posted on  2007-09-06   11:02:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: noone222 (#66)

That's my take and has been since 1997. I hope I'm wrong.

I do not think you are. I have always understood that the program of Pol Pot, used to empty the cities, was developed by a think tank in Washington, DC. The Killing Fields, as a natural progression from that program, would have come from the same place.

Fills all of the details of what you wrote.

When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest.

richard9151  posted on  2007-09-06   11:07:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: HOUNDDAWG (#73)

I frankly never understood why a coin would be chosen as a monetary unit to begin with, given the lack of success of the Susan B Anthony and the Indian maiden thingie, whatever her name is. But yes, the larger NAU story is the real story and always has been.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-09-06   11:31:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: HOUNDDAWG (#73)

oh good. let us know if you get any response.

christine  posted on  2007-09-06   11:45:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: Jethro Tull (#76) (Edited)

I frankly never understood why a coin would be chosen as a monetary unit to begin with, given the lack of success of the Susan B Anthony and the Indian maiden thingie, whatever her name is. But yes, the larger NAU story is the real story and always has been.

Right.

If anything, every CLASS 2 subject of the realm (Palestinian) will be required to have a REAL ID and will pay for every legal purchase with digital units.

And, if the banksters get in to trouble again they can simply move a decimal point.

Here's another bite in the ass. If the unmoney is devalued by a 10 factor for instance, this should put many peeps into a "no tax" bracket. But, unlike a worker who made 30 dollars a month in 1920 who owed no taxes, a worker who makes fifty of the new "Heebros" a week will find that his tax bracket is the same as if he earns 500 of the old frauds and claims zero exemptions! In other words, devaluation will not result in anyone slipping the noose of the 1040 tax, because that unmoney is used by the FED and multiplied (thanks to fractional reserve banking) into the tax free profits of the wealthy CLASS 1 (CHOSEN) individuals.

Wanna bet I'm right?

And, ol' what'z her name was Sacajaweha.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-09-06   15:13:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: christine (#77)

oh good. let us know if you get any response.

I don't believe that Hal is intentionally misleading anyone.

But, he may find that his "friend" at the treasury has played a cruel hoax on him for the purpose of discrediting him.

One never knows for sure if a govt or bankster type who is supposedly "one of us" is sincere until the indictments are unsealed.

We've all read about these underground cells that have insiders as members, such as police and military brass who sneak in and put on the robe to pledge their loyalty to the revolution.

I wouldn't trust one at all because if they were cornered there's a 50% chance that they'd suddenly become a save ass narc.

I doubt that Hal knows for sure just who he can and cannot trust.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-09-06   15:19:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: HOUNDDAWG (#79)

I doubt that Hal knows for sure just who he can and cannot trust.

In politics NEVER trust anyone you have not personally vetted.

Cynicom  posted on  2007-09-06   15:26:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: Cynicom (#80)

In politics NEVER trust anyone you have not personally vetted.

Let me write that down....

And you know what worries me?

Even the fellas I know and trust may roll over if they get caught with an under aged girl or a bag of contraband and are facing serious jail time. A guy here in DE put his own brother on death row because the cops had video of him engaging in homo acts, and he'd rather that his brother be sent to Hell than himself be exposed as a bi boy. (The newspaper transcribed a phone message after his mother refused to talk to him. He threatened to put his brother on death row with his testimony if Mom didn't pick up the phone! This was before the cops busted him and showed him the tape of his nasty man love!) You may have seen The Capano murder trial on AMERICAN JUSTICE.

It's impossible to know who will sell out if they get snagged.

I won't even stay in a room if unlawful activities are being discussed or contemplated. I assume that in every gathering of 3 or more that one of them is a ratshit snitch, so I'll get up and make the appropriate disclaimer then leave.

I won't plot the overthrow of tyrants but when the shooting starts and there's no need to be sneaky, well, that's another horse of a different color.....

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-09-06   16:01:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: HOUNDDAWG, Cynicom (#79)

In politics NEVER trust anyone you have not personally vetted.

that's not exclusive to politicians. best be on guard with everyone in your life. having just recently been betrayed by "peeps" i thought were principled trusted friends, i'm now very cynical.

christine  posted on  2007-09-06   16:12:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: christine (#82)

that's not exclusive to politicians. best be on guard with everyone in your life. having just recently been betrayed by "peeps" i thought were principled trusted friends, i'm now very cynical.

I'm very sorry to read this, chris.

I know that you and Dr. Veith have committed considerable time, energy and resources to the patriot movement, and to think that you two may be discouraged is very upsetting to me.

The people who are trying to save America and restore our freedom can ill afford to lose you and Bill.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-09-06   16:31:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: HOUNDDAWG (#83)

thank you, J.

christine  posted on  2007-09-06   16:33:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: christine, critter, Jethro Tull (#84)

According to Mr. Turner, the Denver Mint has suspended tours of the facility until September 28th due to (get this) construction. Natch, Hal thinks they are using the time to move the Ameros to a more secure location.

Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org

who knows what evil  posted on  2007-09-09   21:54:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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