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Title: Plan ''Daisy'' - (The Suppressed Document at LibertyForum.org)
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Published: May 28, 2005
Author: WindRiverShoshoni
Post Date: 2005-05-28 08:35:42 by toddbrendanfahey
Keywords: LibertyForum.org), Suppressed, 'Daisy'
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Comments: 69

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#18. To: toddbrendanfahey (#0)

After reading through this fairly and objectively, there is still some room to investigate. However...

If you watch Free Republic, LibertyPost, Liberty Forum, DemocraticUnderground, and just about ANY forum, you will see almost the exact same behaviors exhibited.

I'm not anti-semitic. I'm not anti-jew. I'm not anti-Israel. What I am, is a guy who pays taxes to my government, and they are making bad decisions with that money.

The people of America, ARE A BANK. We are loaners of currency. We are the guarantor of the debts of our government. We have been turned into a bank, by the powers that be. We are the people being robbed at gunpoint by people who claim to be our servants. THEY ARE NOT. They freely give away stolen money to people who neither need it, or deserve it.

Israel has been in existence for over 50 years. A country, and its people should be able to stand on their own FROM CONCEPTION. We did it in 1776. WE STOOD AGAINST THE BRITISH. WE STOOD ON OUR OWN. Israel, with all the enemies it has, can stand on its own too. The problem is, there are people who believe that Israel should be babied, coddled, and taken care of like a child whose in their 50's living in their parent's guest house, not contributing a fucking thing. They don't even mow their own grass if you get the metaphor.

Israel, like every other country we dole out cash to, should be repaying the people of this country. REPAY YOUR DEBTS TO AMERICA GODDAMN YOU. If I have to pay my paltry Student Loan Debt, then by God Every country that has borrowed BILLIONS should be paying back the people of this country who loaned it to them.

The BANK OF AMERICA, THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA ARE THE SAME THING. Israel needs to stand on its own, and repay the debt it owes us.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2005-05-28   14:14:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#18)

I can't believe how many countries we are giving (loaning?) money to. I saw this yesterday. $3 BILLION!!!

"Rep. Jim Kolbe leaves today for a six-day trip to eastern Mediterranean countries that receive nearly $3 billion in American assistance.

The Tucson Republican, chairman of the House panel that oversees foreign aid, will lead a bipartisan congressional delegation to Israel, the West Bank, Lebanon, Turkey and Cyprus."

http://www.dailystar.com/dailystar/allheadlines/77297.php

rattler  posted on  2005-05-29   12:37:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: rattler (#53)

Are you aware that we have military presence in more than 140 countries? Below is the statement of purpose from my and Jethro Tull's website, www.bringemhome.org.

A flag displayed upside-down is recognized as an international sign of distress. Like the inverted flag, our upside-down ribbon symbolizes a state of distress. Our military is in distress. Our country is in distress. Our world is in distress. The war is a lie. The reasons for the war are lies. George Bush says, “Bring ‘em on.” We say, Bring ‘em Home.

At the behest of the State Department, the U.S. military is currently occupying over 140 countries. In Afghanistan and Iraq, our military men and women are dying and being maimed every day. Our military personnel are being forced to kill and maim civilians -- men, women, and children in addition to the Iraqi “insurgents,” as there is virtually no way to distinguish who among them is enemy, ally, or neutral.

The U.S. government has never provided clear and convincing evidence that Iraq, Afghanistan, or any other country poses an unambiguous, direct, and imminent threat to America. Moreover, Congress has failed to fulfill its Constitutional duty of formally passing a Declaration of War. It is unconstitutional for the President to both declare war and then prosecute that war. Over two centuries ago, George Washington warned against the peril of foreign entanglements. The costs for these wars and foreign entanglements are too high for America to tolerate. Destruction of life and limb, monetary expense, loss of moral authority internationally, and damage to America’s image as a nation of peace are heavy prices to pay for a war that benefits primarily the corporate profiteers.

Our military men and women should not be asked or expected to sacrifice their lives and futures in serving as the world’s police force. The best way to support our troops is to Bring ‘em Home. What country would want to do us harm if U.S. troops withdrew from its internal affairs? What country would dare do us harm if all of our troops were on American soil? Our troops belong at home protecting our borders and our country.

However, for the power-hungry imperialists to accomplish their ultimate goal of global control, the U.S. must be at war, for nothing can match war in its capacity to create wealth for the international banking cartel, or power- acquisition for the U.S. government. Nothing cranks up the debt to a country’s people as does war. The consequences of war are profit to the bankers, power to the government and, unfortunately, servitude, poverty, and destruction to the people.

The U.S. government is at war with much of the world. Domestically, there is a war on drugs, a war on poverty, a war on illiteracy, a war on crime, a war on disease, a war on hunger, and now a war on terror -- all amounting to a war on the people. Internationally, the war on terrorism and the global “peacekeeping” operations are tantamount to a war on the sovereign nations of the world. The global elitists are using our military’s men and women for their personal power and profit.

America, we are in distress. We must stop the war machine. We must support our troops. We must Bring ‘em Home.

"Military men are dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns for foreign policy." ~ Henry Kissinger ~ January-February 2003 edition of Eagle Newsletter

christine  posted on  2005-05-29   12:59:05 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: christine (#56)

The U.S. government has never provided clear and convincing evidence that Iraq, Afghanistan, or any other country poses an unambiguous, direct, and imminent threat to America.

Be careful about your posts. Afghanistan required the full force of the US military (which never happened) (however) because of the lust for oil by GWBush and his neocon pals, Wolfowitz, Perle, and Rumsfeld.

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