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Title: CONGRESSMAN ON HOUSE COMMITTEE ON FINANCIAL SERVICES AND RANKING MINORITY MEMBER OF THE HOUSE SUBCOMMITTEE ON FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS AND CONSUMER CREDIT FOUND DEAD IN HIS APARTMENT
Source: Hal Turner show
URL Source: http://www.halturnershow.com/index.html
Published: Sep 5, 2007
Author: Hal Turner
Post Date: 2007-09-05 23:02:39 by richard9151
Keywords: None
Views: 1715
Comments: 50

UNCOVERED HISTORICALLY LARGE BANKING AND STOCK SCANDALS WHICH WILL CRUSH THE U.S. ECONOMY LATER THIS MONTH AND THE MONEY PEOPLE KILLED HIM FOR WHAT HE FOUND

On scene investigator tells "The Hal Turner Show" there is clear evidence of foul play and intense pressure on locals to keep quiet about the facts of the murder.

As most readers of this web site know, within the past two weeks there have been extremely unusual OPTIONS contracts offered for sale on more than $6 BILLION of Stock being traded on certain stock markets.

The people offering those options are allegedly betting the stock market will drop 30% - 50% in value before September 21. If that happens, they make out really well. If a crash does not happen, they will lose Billions.

The Hal Turner Show has been told - but has not yet been able to confirm - that the Congressman found out about some type of swindle set to take place in the stock markets later this month and he was going public with the information. I am told that people who stand to lose from being exposed, killed this Congressman.

More information as it becomes available.

UPDATE: 1426 HRS EDT:A single staffer, familiar with the scandal and with access to the evidence has told me this matter is so huge, the US will go to war with Iran BEFORE September 21, to divert public attention from the financial disaster!


Actually, this makes a lot of sense. Unfortunately. But..... who knows?

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#10. To: Minerva (#7)

Does that mean the Jesuits struck again?

rowdee  posted on  2007-09-05   23:55:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Minerva (#7)

Makes more sense than anything I have read from the MSM reporters.

"Satan / Cheney in "08"

tom007  posted on  2007-09-06   0:08:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: richard9151 (#6)

tom007: This was a debate tonite. Applause for taking out Iran?????? Our Government is criminally insane

richard9151: No, it is the people who would applaud such that are criinally insane, sorry to say.

You are both right and I'd add that our MSM is also evil/insane because the MSM manipulates the news agenda to promote pre-emptive attack on Iran.

This afternoon I had a long commute and I was listening to a well known local left wing talk radio station - this talk show host kept yapping pre-emption as being good and necessary and if we're wrong - oh well - war is not a perfect science, better them than us. I couldn't believe my ears and the call in folks were just as aggressive and if they weren't, the host made a point of trying to put pro-war words in their mouths. It was scary and embaressing.

scrapper2  posted on  2007-09-06   0:08:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: richard9151, jethro tull, christine, all (#0)

Here's a perfect example of why it is DUMB and harmful to do shit like make a big deal or lie about a fake Amero coin.

Now I don't believe a word Hal says. This is probably 100% pure BS like the Amero.


Enemies of the Republic

Critter  posted on  2007-09-06   0:13:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: scrapper2 (#12)

and the call in folks were just as aggressive

Pretty well puts an end to the idea that the 'people' will not permit another war, doesn't it.

Also clearly illustrates exactly how judgement is carried out against a people, and I can not think of a people who deserve judgement more than the people you are speaking of.

What goes around.... does indeed come back, and it comes back in spades.

When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest.

richard9151  posted on  2007-09-06   0:15:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Critter (#13)

Now I don't believe a word Hal says.

Does make one wonder.

But I do like the site you are marking; Enemies of the Republic. Gotta be a LOT of names in that hummer!!!

When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest.

richard9151  posted on  2007-09-06   0:17:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Critter (#13)

This is probably 100% pure BS like the Amero.

You know, there is something that I need to add in here.

Who is faking it? About the Amero, I mean; Hal Turner, or, the man who CLAIMS to have designed that coin as an investment? He was already the designer of two coins for the mint... so could you think of a better way to cloud the issue than what he did/said/claimed?

I mean, there is no question about the North American Union, so there should not be much doubt about the Amero, you know, at some point in time.

So, why are we automatically assuming that the liar is Hal Turner?

When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest.

richard9151  posted on  2007-09-06   0:22:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: richard9151 (#16) (Edited)

So, why are we automatically assuming that the liar is Hal Turner?

Has Hal Turner ever been right? I remember when he had proof a levy in New Orleans was blown up. I guess a dog ate the proof.

A wise man once said:

"There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again."

honway  posted on  2007-09-06   0:35:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Critter, richard1961 (#13)

did you listen to his show tonight? i'm curious to know what you thought of his explanation and the sequence of events. according to Hal, http://dccoins.com was posted to the net after Hal broke the story of his having received the images of and then subsequently the coin from a treasury department person.

richard, did you listen to the show?

christine  posted on  2007-09-06   0:36:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Critter (#13)

This is probably 100% pure BS like the Amero.

Perhaps, but the Congressman's death, when you consider his committee assignments; is a tad unusual.

Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org

who knows what evil  posted on  2007-09-06   0:38:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: christine (#18)

according to Hal, http://dccoins.com was posted to the net after Hal broke the story of his having received the images of and then subsequently the coin from a treasury department person.

That was my understanding, as well. The 'fantasy coin' website went up AFTER Hal obtained his images. I don't know...there is an awful lot of weird stuff weaving together into a tapestry I'm not sure I want to see...

Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org

who knows what evil  posted on  2007-09-06   0:41:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: christine (#18)

Sounds like Hal is lying again, to me.

A whois result:

Registered through: MonsterCommerce
Domain Name: DC-COIN.COM
Created on: 27-Sep-05
Expires on: 27-Sep-07


Enemies of the Republic

Critter  posted on  2007-09-06   0:45:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: christine (#18) (Edited)

richard, did you listen to the show?

No, christine, my computer will not play programs from the net. I have given up trying to do so. But I am interested, as the more I think about this, the more it seems that we should not just assume that Turner is the one lying, so this does make some sense;

according to Hal, http://dccoins.com was posted to the net after Hal broke the story of his having received the images of and then subsequently the coin from a treasury department person.

What better way to cloud the issue than what happened?

When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest.

richard9151  posted on  2007-09-06   0:46:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Critter (#21)

Registered through: MonsterCommerce Domain Name: DC-COIN.COM Created on: 27-Sep-05 Expires on: 27-Sep-07

Critter, that does not mean that the dates are legitimate, or, that perhaps the DC-COIN was there, but there was no Amero info, or the site was available but not being used. To prove Turner is a liar, you would need to have logged onto that site prior to Turner's release of the info, or, know someone that you trust very much who did so.

Remember, this guy IS a coin designer, for the US mint.

When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest.

richard9151  posted on  2007-09-06   0:50:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: christine (#18)

Did he say the site showed up after he broke the story? Because internet archive has archived pages dating back to 2005:

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.dc-coin.com/


Enemies of the Republic

Critter  posted on  2007-09-06   0:52:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: honway (#17)

"There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again."

Naw... that is from Texas! It's the official Bush family motto......

When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest.

richard9151  posted on  2007-09-06   0:52:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: richard9151 (#23) (Edited)

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.dc-coin.com/


Enemies of the Republic

Critter  posted on  2007-09-06   0:53:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Critter (#21)

A whois result:

Nice one.

The "Department of Defense" has never won a war. The "War Department" was undefeated.

Indrid Cold  posted on  2007-09-06   0:53:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Critter (#26)

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.dc-coin.com/>http://www.dc-coin.com/>http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.dc-coin.com/

Critter, to be honest about it, I do not know how to use that info; I am not a real computer user. All I do is write on mine, and use it for research, so, you have to tell me what that is, and, what it shows. Please.

When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest.

richard9151  posted on  2007-09-06   0:58:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Indrid Cold (#27)

Thanks. Internet Archive confirms the site's existence since 2005.


Enemies of the Republic

Critter  posted on  2007-09-06   0:58:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: richard9151 (#28)

Internet Archive spiders the wb and archives pages for posterity. If a site disappears for some reason and there was something on it that you need to see again, there is a good chance you will find an archived copy at Internet Archive.

If you click on that link, you will see all of the dates on which they archived copies of that site. Click on the date and you will see what the site looked like on that date. Even some of the links on the archived page will take you to other archived pages from that site on that date.


Enemies of the Republic

Critter  posted on  2007-09-06   1:01:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Critter, who knows what evil, richard1961 (#21)

The 'fantasy coin' website went up AFTER Hal obtained his images.

that is what i heard him say. i wonder if the show is archived. hal said something about the coin he received did have the initials DC for the designer, Daniel Carr, as well as a D for Denver where it was minted. so is he lying? that doesn't sound like it. maybe Hal is saying that the Amero is real meaning that it IS a definite plan with the government having commissioned Carr to design them. Hal went into a lot more detail so i really wish that you could hear it for yourself.

christine  posted on  2007-09-06   1:08:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: christine (#31)

I don't know when Hal claimed to first come across the Amero coin pictures, but Whatreallyhappened linked to Carr's site on Aug 15th.

“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"

Eoghan  posted on  2007-09-06   1:13:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: christine (#31)

It just seems like Hal is going the way of Tom Flocco and Wayne Madsen, with made up BS.


Enemies of the Republic

Critter  posted on  2007-09-06   1:17:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Critter (#33)

i don't know much about Flocco and Madsen. have they ever reported stories proven to be wrong and then admitted they were mistaken? and have they also reported stories that were factual? i mean, no reporter gets it all 100% accurate. i guess we have to try and determine if the lie is deliberate or that person's interpretation or opinion of an occurrence.

christine  posted on  2007-09-06   1:39:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: richard9151 (#0)

UPDATE: 1426 HRS EDT:A single staffer, familiar with the scandal and with access to the evidence has told me this matter is so huge, the US will go to war with Iran BEFORE September 21, to divert public attention from the financial disaster!

Launching an attack on Iran as a smoke screen for the stock market crashing is like sticking your arm in a fire to distract you from your hand you just broke, with what it would do to the price of oil and all.

Of course, that means Bush might actually do it.

Pinguinite.com EcuadorTreasures.ec

Pinguinite  posted on  2007-09-06   2:41:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: christine (#34)

I'm not up on the Amero coin topic, but if the Euro is any comparison, then we should remember the first stage of currency introduction was doing it purely as an electronic currency. Paper/coin Euros weren't introduced until the electronic version was active for a couple years.

If the Amero coin has been created already, then it's happening backwards from how the Euro was introduced.

Pinguinite.com EcuadorTreasures.ec

Pinguinite  posted on  2007-09-06   2:44:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: scrapper2 (#12)

I was listening to a well known local left wing talk radio station - this talk show host kept yapping pre-emption as being good and necessary and if we're wrong - oh well - war is not a perfect science, better them than us.

did you mean to type in RIGHT wing talk show host there? No leftwingers i know want a premtive war with anyone all the right wingers not only want preemption they want nook a lur (a little jorge lingo there for you) preemptive war

Why settle for the lesser of two evils, vote Cthulhu!

freepatriot32  posted on  2007-09-06   3:13:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Critter, richard9151, christine, cynicom, Indred Cold, lodwick, Yertle Turtle, Debunkers all (#24) (Edited)

Did he say the site showed up after he broke the story? Because internet archive has archived pages dating back to 2005:

And what did these archived pages actually look like up until Turner broke the story in early August?

It fits Turner’s explanation perfectly that Carr would have domain pages since 2005. Turner stated that a day or two after he broke the story he was notified via email that Carr had assembled some rudimentary Amerio pages sans graphics. A day after these went up, the Carr pages were updated to a more polished version complete with graphics of the coin in question. This couldn’t have been done in that time frame without previously having existing pages. The changes that occurred to those pages *after* the story broke are the key to the truth, IMO. I assume nobody, including Turner, you or Mr. Warren Commission Turtle (a most passionate debunker of any perceived anti government information) knows what Carr had as web pages before the Turner Amero story. Right?

Having listened to most of Turner’s show, and then re-reading yours and others ad homonym attack on him w/o proof positive, I’d say he bests and you by a mile. That isn’t to say he Madsen, or any others you call names never get things wrong. It merely shows how our side eats it’s own and in the process ensures perpetual disunity.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-09-06   5:48:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: richard9151 (#0) (Edited)

CONGRESSMAN ON HOUSE COMMITTEE ON FINANCIAL SERVICES AND RANKING MINORITY MEMBER OF THE HOUSE SUBCOMMITTEE ON FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS AND CONSUMER CREDIT FOUND DEAD IN HIS APARTMENT

There were rumors some weeks ago (I saw them on Daily Kos) that a senior Republican House member from Ohio was on the lists of the D.C. Madam. (At the time, I was hoping the congressman in question was Boehner.)

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2007-09-06   8:50:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Jethro Tull (#38)

It merely shows how our side eats it’s own and in the process ensures perpetual disunity.

I think it was Churchill that said, "my enemies enemy is my friend".

This is lost on too many people.

Cynicom  posted on  2007-09-06   9:37:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: richard9151, *You Gotta Be Shitting Me* (#0)

Kind of like how 9-11 happened, just about the time the ENRON scandal happened.

Remember that one folks?

Dying for old bastards, and their old money, isn't my idea of freedom.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2007-09-06   9:40:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#41)

The day before 9/11, Rumsfeld announced $3 trillion was missing from the Defense Department.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2007-09-06   9:53:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Jethro Tull, Critter (#38)

It fits Turner’s explanation perfectly that Carr would have domain pages since 2005. Turner stated that a day or two after he broke the story he was notified via email that Carr had assembled some rudimentary Amerio pages sans graphics. A day after these went up, the Carr pages were updated to a more polished version complete with graphics of the coin in question. This couldn’t have been done in that time frame without previously having existing pages. The changes that occurred to those pages *after* the story broke are the key to the truth, IMO.

yes, and as i stated above, Turner said the coin he was sent did have the initials DC for Daniel Carr as well as the D for the Denver mint.

christine  posted on  2007-09-06   10:21:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Pinguinite (#35)

Of course, that means Bush might actually do it.

That is the scary part; knowing the quality of the people in 'charge,' like, maybe, the Light Brigade.

When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest.

richard9151  posted on  2007-09-06   10:33:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Pinguinite (#36)

If the Amero coin has been created already, then it's happening backwards from how the Euro was introduced.

But I think it would have to be done backwards here, given the problems with the dollar internationally, and the fact that the people here are still armed, and more and more upset. At least, a significant percentage of them are.

There will have to be more to it all the way down the line, including the event to bring it all together.

When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest.

richard9151  posted on  2007-09-06   10:36:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Jethro Tull (#38)

It fits Turner’s explanation perfectly that Carr would have domain pages since 2005. Turner stated that a day or two after he broke the story he was notified via email that Carr had assembled some rudimentary Amerio pages sans graphics. A day after these went up, the Carr pages were updated to a more polished version complete with graphics of the coin in question. This couldn’t have been done in that time frame without previously having existing pages. The changes that occurred to those pages *after* the story broke are the key to the truth, IMO. I assume nobody, including Turner, you or Mr. Warren Commission Turtle (a most passionate debunker of any perceived anti government information) knows what Carr had as web pages before the Turner Amero story. Right?

Jeez Jethro..... QUIT THAT!!!!

I find myself sitting here, nodding my head..... AND I REALIZE THAT I WAS AGREEING WITH SOMETING JETHRO POSTED!!!!!!!

I hate it when s--- like that happens.....

When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest.

richard9151  posted on  2007-09-06   10:39:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Cynicom (#40)

We have to give the enemy his due, Cyni. Not even a full scale invasion causing crippling taxation, massive cultural pollution and overpopulation can unify us.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-09-06   11:24:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: richard9151 (#46)

You're growing richard :)

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-09-06   11:25:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: freepatriot32 (#37)

did you mean to type in RIGHT wing talk show host there? No leftwingers i know want a premtive war with anyone all the right wingers not only want preemption they want nook a lur (a little jorge lingo there for you) preemptive war

Trust me, this was a left wing radio talk show station and the host was talking pre-emptive strike against Iran in particular. Clue #1: the host's last name was not monosyllabic like Brown or White. Clue #2: 99.9% certainty that the host had dual citizenship with nation located in the Middle East.

scrapper2  posted on  2007-09-07   1:39:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: scrapper2 (#49)

ahhh thatwould explain it then

Why settle for the lesser of two evils, vote Cthulhu!

freepatriot32  posted on  2007-09-07   1:59:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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