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Neocon Nuttery See other Neocon Nuttery Articles Title: Bin Laden slams capitalism in new video CAIRO, Egypt - The new video message from Osama bin Laden appeared on militant Islamist Web sites Saturday, a day after it was released by a U.S.-based terrorist monitoring organization. A note accompanying the video explained it had been a conscious decision to release the video to television channels before posting it on Web sites, the traditional means al-Qaida has used to disseminate its message. "As a requested strategy the video has been sent to TV channels before posting it to the net. And it is not true that some Web sites claimed that they have received it in another way," it added, apparently referring to the Washington-based SITE Institute, which monitors terrorist messages and provided the tape to The Associated Press on Friday. In the video, bin Laden makes no overt threats and does not directly call for attacks. Instead, he addresses Americans, telling them the Iraq war has failed and urging them to turn away from capitalism and democracy and convert to Islam. His emergence Friday comes at a time when terrorism experts believe bin Laden's terror network is regrouping in the lawless Pakistan-Afghanistan border region — and it underlines the U.S. failure to catch him. American intelligence agencies were studying the video to determine whether it was authentic and to look for clues about bin Laden's health. In the video, bin Laden attacked capitalism, multinational corporations and globalization. "This is why I tell you: as you liberated yourselves before from the slavery of monks, kings and feudalism, you should liberate yourselves from the deception, shackles and attrition of the capitalist system," he said. Several current and former government officials said they believed an American — 28-year-old Adam Gadahn — may have written at least part of the speech. Gadahn, who has been charged with treason and supporting terrorism for serving as an al-Qaida propagandist, has appeared in several past al-Qaida-produced videos, lecturing against capitalism and globalization and making insider references to American culture. "It has Adam Gadahn written all over it," one former senior intelligence official said of bin Laden's tape, speaking on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the issue. In the new video, bin Laden derided President Bush, saying events in Iraq have gotten "out of control" and the American leader "is like the one who plows and sows the sea: He harvests nothing but failure." Bush made the rare move of speaking about an al-Qaida video. The tape is "a reminder about the dangerous world in which we live, he told reporters on the sidelines of a summit of Pacific Rim nations in Sydney, Australia. "It's important that we show resolve and determination to protect ourselves, deny al-Qaida safe haven and support young democracies," Bush said. Bin Laden said there were two solutions to stopping the Iraq war. "One is from our side, and it is to escalate the fighting and killing against you. This is our duty, and our brothers are carrying it out," bin Laden said. "The second solution is from your side. ... I invite you to embrace Islam," he said. One result of that, bin Laden said, would be an end to the Iraq war. He said "warmongering owners of the major corporations" would rush to appease voters who showed they are looking for an alternative, "and this alternative is Islam." Bin Laden wears a white robe, a white circular cap and a beige cloak seated behind a table while reading an address to the American people from papers in front of him. His trimmed beard is shorter than in his last video, in 2004, and is fully black — apparently dyed, since in past videos it was mostly gray. He speaks softly, as he usually does, and has dark bags under his eyes, but his appearance dispelled rumors that he had died. Al-Qaida annually uses the anniversary of the Sept. 11 suicide attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon as a propaganda opportunity, issuing videotapes to rally supporters and mock the United States. But the appearance of bin Laden this year makes a bigger splash. The al-Qaida leader had not appeared in new video footage since October 2004, and he had not put out an audiotape in more than a year, his longest period without a message. The video appeared to have been recently made. At one point, bin Laden mentions that "several days ago" Japan marked the 62nd anniversary of the Aug. 6, 1945, atomic bomb attack on Hiroshima. He also refers to the Democratic Party's congressional victory in last fall's election and to French President Nicolas Sarkozy, who was elected in May.
Poster Comment: So now they throw the nice Jewish boy from California into the mix, looks like he's Osama's new best friend!
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Gadahn, who has been charged with treason and supporting terrorism for serving as an al-Qaida propagandist, has appeared in several past al-Qaida-produced videos, lecturing against capitalism and globalization and making insider references to American culture. "It has Adam Gadahn written all over it," one former senior intelligence official said of bin Laden's tape, speaking on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the issue. ping!
I suspect this is old footage, at its best. If bin Laden is actually alive; he's deep in hiding.
He'd deader than a doornail. Bad kidneys, dialysis, living in the mountains. He was buried a long time ago.
"Life is short, break the rules, forgive quickly, kiss slowly, love truly, laugh uncontrollably and never regret anything that made you smile."
HAH! The spirit of PT Barnum is alive and well, and walking the halls of the GOP headquarters.
This is an interesting insight. Should the Bush speech writers too be charged with treasons? And what happens if they claimed Israeli citizenship? Could they still be charged with treason?
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
When William Joyce (Lord Haw Haw) was charged with treason, his lawyers used the defense that, as a citizen of Ireland, he could not be guilty of treason against the UK. The prosecution successfully argued that he had a UK passport. He was convicted, and hanged.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
Everything that Bin Laden has said in this video, are things that are being talked about on websites who don't like what's going on in this country. Mortgage foreclosures, usury, taxation, failed government, the whole thing looks like it was pulled from Freedom4um in general. When you think about it, I'm not sure if this isn't to put everyone who disagrees with government, or the nonsense that is being carried out in our name, as being with the terrorists? Seriously, think about it for a minute. The idea that some bearded jackass would go and talk about current events in the United States, let alone specifically the democrats, the housing market, finance, and other bullshit is astounding. Considering that his mantra up to now, has been preaching Islam, and hate for the west. Since when does he actually give a fuck about the plight of the American People and the failed leadership of this country who haven't done anything but weaken this nation? He doesn't. Which is why you should all know that they can manufacture ANY and ALL Osama tapes whenever they want to, to fit whatever occasion. This tape came out just before Bush was supposed to address the American People on the war in Iraq. Just like today, General Petraeus is supposed to give a report on how things are going. I sincerely doubt that Osama is hiding in a cave, but is more likely living in a hotel room somewhere.
Dying for old bastards, and their old money, isn't my idea of freedom.
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