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Title: Warming Is Seen as Wiping Out Most Polar Bears
Source: The New York Times
URL Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/08/s ... en=42d971c103c46def&ei=5087%0A
Published: Sep 8, 2007
Author: JOHN M. BRODER and ANDREW C. REVKIN
Post Date: 2007-09-09 01:39:50 by robin
Ping List: *Global Climate Change*     Subscribe to *Global Climate Change*
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September 8, 2007 Warming Is Seen as Wiping Out Most Polar Bears By JOHN M. BRODER and ANDREW C. REVKIN

WASHINGTON, Sept. 7 — Two-thirds of the world’s polar bears will disappear by 2050, even under moderate projections for shrinking summer sea ice caused by greenhouse gases in the atmosphere, government scientists reported on Friday.

The finding is part of a yearlong review of the effects of climate and ice changes on polar bears to help determine whether they should be protected under the Endangered Species Act. Scientists estimate the current polar bear population at 22,000.

The report, which the United States Geological Survey released here, offers stark prospects for polar bears as the world grows warmer.

The scientists concluded that, while the bears were not likely to be driven to extinction, they would be largely relegated to the Arctic archipelago of Canada and spots off the northern Greenland coast, where summer sea ice tends to persist even in warm summers like this one, a shrinking that could be enough to reduce the bear population by two-thirds.

The bears would disappear entirely from Alaska, the study said.

“As the sea ice goes, so goes the polar bear,” said Steven Amstrup, lead biologist for the survey team.

The report was released as President Bush was in Australia meeting with Asian leaders to try to agree on a strategy to address global warming. Mr. Bush will be host to major industrial nations in Washington this month to discuss the framework for a treaty on climate change.

The United Nations plans to devote its general assembly in the fall to global warming.

A spokeswoman for the White House declined to comment on the report, saying it was part of decision making at the Interior Department, parent of the survey.

In the report, the team said, “Sea ice conditions would have to be substantially better than even the most conservative computer simulations of warming and sea ice” to avoid the anticipated drop in bear population.

In a conference call with reporters, the scientists also said the momentum to a warmer world with less Arctic sea ice — and fewer bears — would be largely unavoidable at least for decades, no matter what happened with emissions of heat-trapping gases like carbon dioxide.

“Despite any mitigation of greenhouse gases, we’re going to see the same amount of energy in the system for 20, 30 or 40 years,” said Mark Myers, the survey director. “We would not expect to see any significant change in polar conditions regardless of mitigation.”

In other words, even in the unlikely event that all the major economies were to agree to rapid and drastic reductions in emissions of carbon dioxide and other heat-trapping gases, the floating Arctic ice cap will continue to shrink at a rapid pace for the next 50 years, wiping out much of the bears’ habitat.

The report makes no recommendation on listing the bears as a threatened species or taking any action to slow ice cap damage. Such decisions are up to another Interior Department agency, the Fish and Wildlife Service, which enforces the Endangered Species Act. That decision is due in January, officials have said. The wildlife agency had to make a determination on the status of a threatened species because of a suit by environmental groups like Greenpeace and the Natural Resources Defense Council.

In some places, the bears have adapted to eating a wide range of food like snow geese and garbage. But the survey team said their fate was 84 percent linked to the extent of sea ice.

Separate studies of trends in Arctic sea ice by academic and government teams have solidified a picture of shrinking area in summers for decades to come.

A fresh analysis by scientists of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, to be published Saturday in the journal Geophysical Research Letters, says sea-ice coverage of the Arctic Ocean will decline by more than 40 percent before the summer of 2050, compared with the average ice extent from 1979 to 1999.

This summer the ice retreated much farther and faster than in any year since satellite tracking began in 1979, several Arctic research groups said.

John H. Broder reported from Washington, and Andrew C. Revkin from New York. Subscribe to *Global Climate Change*

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#1. To: robin, *Agriculture-Environment* (#0)

a shrinking that could be enough to reduce the bear population by two-thirds.

Sure they will. There numbers have been increasing.

farmfriend  posted on  2007-09-09   1:44:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: farmfriend (#1)

NOAA Scientists Say Arctic Ice Is Melting Faster Than Expected

40% of Arctic ice cap will be gone by midcentury, Seattle scientists say

Polar bears could face extinction by 2050, report finds

Experts forecast large decline in Arctic sea ice

U.S. Geological Survey: Polar Bears Could Soon be Extinct By 2050

robin  posted on  2007-09-09   1:50:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: robin (#2)

Giving me a bunch of links means nothing. I could do the same. You have shown yourself uninterested in examining how the science has been corrupted by a political agenda. I didn't think anyone on this forum was into government control that much.

farmfriend  posted on  2007-09-09   11:29:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: farmfriend (#3)

Every one of these links are to news articles within the last few days. They are not just a bunch of meaningless links and one of the news links I posted are long. Furthermore they are easily understood by the average reader.

They refer to very recent scientific studies and have been published in a variety of places, which is why I posted more than one link.

As I've mentioned before I expect global warming to be politicized, and it is. The Bush Regime, who long held out against Global Warming, thanks to Big Oil interests, has now changed its mind; attempting no doubt to subvert the process.

APEC Adopts Climate Change Statement

robin  posted on  2007-09-09   11:47:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: robin (#4)

The Bush Regime, who long held out against Global Warming, thanks to Big Oil interests, has now changed its mind; attempting no doubt to subvert the process.

That statement right there shows you really don't know what is going on. And I understand those links are to news articles. You didn't even bother to read the paper I showed you. It was very easy to read and understand. It also showed how bogus the science is. You don't seem interested in the truth which supprises me. I didn't take you for a kool aide drinker.

farmfriend  posted on  2007-09-09   11:56:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: farmfriend (#5)

Well I see you as agreeing with Big Oil, that makes me very suspicious.

A group of scientists is accusing ExxonMobil of spending millions to "manufacture confusion" over global warming. ... UCS report found that between 1998 and 2005, ExxonMobil has funnelled about $16 million to 43 advocacy groups and 16 individuals in an effort to "manufacture uncertainty" and ultimately stall government action that would require a mandatory cut in greenhouse gasses such as carbon dioxide. The group said the figures in the report were compiled from ExxonMobil corporate reports.

Scientists' Report Documents ExxonMobil’s Tobacco-like Disinformation Campaign on Global Warming Science

robin  posted on  2007-09-09   12:03:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: robin, *Agriculture-Environment* (#6)

Well I see you as agreeing with Big Oil, that makes me very suspicious.

See that's what I meant. Actually you are the one agreeing with Big Oil. That's why I said you don't know what's really going on. By buying into AGW you are promoting all those things you fight against on other threads. Are you Pro UN? Pro NGOs? Pro ruling elite? Pro business? Are you on the side of the Rockefellers et al? That's who is pushing AGW. All funded by oil money!

I'm on the side of real science.

CO2: The Greatest Scientific Scandal of Our Time Read it this time, please.

farmfriend  posted on  2007-09-09   12:16:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: farmfriend (#8)

According to Union of Concerned Scientists you are agreeing with Big Oil.

A group of scientists is accusing ExxonMobil of spending millions to "manufacture confusion" over global warming. ... UCS report found that between 1998 and 2005, ExxonMobil has funnelled about $16 million to 43 advocacy groups and 16 individuals in an effort to "manufacture uncertainty" and ultimately stall government action that would require a mandatory cut in greenhouse gasses such as carbon dioxide. The group said the figures in the report were compiled from ExxonMobil corporate reports.

Scientists' Report Documents ExxonMobil’s Tobacco-like Disinformation Campaign on Global Warming Science

A new report from the Union of Concerned Scientists offers the most comprehensive documentation to date of how ExxonMobil has adopted the tobacco industry's disinformation tactics, as well as some of the same organizations and personnel, to cloud the scientific understanding of climate change and delay action on the issue. According to the report, ExxonMobil has funneled nearly $16 million between 1998 and 2005 to a network of 43 advocacy organizations that seek to confuse the public on global warming science.

robin  posted on  2007-09-09   12:19:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#10. To: robin (#9)

I've read that shit before. I've even posted it on other forums. You seem to see through the bullshit everywhere but here. I don't get it.

Since you refuse to read my link let me try from a different angle. Answer this one question:

Who do you believe was behind 9/11?

farmfriend  posted on  2007-09-09 12:25:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: robin, *Agriculture-Environment* (#9)

Here is a quote from that paper:

CO2: The Greatest Scientific Scandal of Our Time
by Zbigniew Jaworowski, M.D., Ph.D., D.Sc.

This obviously is not the case with the IPCC, which isstuffed with money, and in agreement with the UN politics, which are dominated by greens and misanthropic fanaticism. During the past six years, the President of the United States devoted nearly $29 billion to climate research, leading the world with its unparalleled financial commitment (The White House 2007). This was about $5 billion per year, more than twice the amount spent on the Apollo Program ($2.3 billion per year), which in 1969 put man on the Moon. A side- effect of this situation, and of politicizing the climate issue, was described by meteorologist Piers Corbyn in the Weather Ac-tion Bulletin, December 2000: “The problem we are faced with is that the meteorological establishment and the global warming lobby research bodies which receive large funding are now apparently so corrupted by the largesse they receive that the scientists in them have sold their integrity.”
If the President is leading the world in funding AGW studies, why do you believe he has been on the side of big oil?

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