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Title: France rejects EU treaty, Europe faces crisis (oh no, a crisis! call the bureacrats!)
Source: washingtonpost
URL Source: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy ... /05/29/AR2005052900279_pf.html
Published: May 29, 2005
Author: By Timothy Heritage
Post Date: 2005-05-29 17:46:39 by gengis gandhi
Keywords: bureacrats!), rejects, treaty,
Views: 78
Comments: 12

washingtonpost.com France rejects EU treaty, Europe faces crisis

By Timothy Heritage Reuters Sunday, May 29, 2005; 5:32 PM

PARIS (Reuters) - France overwhelmingly rejected the European Union's constitution in a referendum on Sunday, plunging the EU into crisis and dealing a potentially fatal blow to a charter designed to make the enlarged bloc run smoothly.

President Jacques Chirac swiftly conceded defeat in an address to the nation as the "No" camp celebrated projections by polling groups showing about 55 percent of voters opposed the EU's first constitution.

Chirac, 72, said the defeat, which EU leaders fear could stall European integration, weakened France in the 25-member bloc but the gradual process of ratification by member states would continue and France would remain in the Union.

He promised a fresh impetus for the government, signaling he was ready to dismiss unpopular Prime Minister Jean-Pierre Raffarin.

"France has expressed itself democratically. You have rejected the European constitution by a majority. It is your sovereign decision and I take note of it," he said.

"Nevertheless, our ambitions and interests are profoundly linked to Europe. France, a founder member of the union, remains, naturally, within the union.

He ignored calls by some members of the "No" camp to step down but is clearly badly wounded two years before presidential and parliamentary elections.

The euro fell just over half a cent in early trading in Asia to 1.2516/19, down from 1.2573 in New York on Friday.

Such a heavy defeat in a country that has been one of the main pillars of the EU reduces the chances of a repeat vote, which French leaders had ruled out anyway before the referendum.

"The constitution no longer exists" said leading euroskeptic Philippe de Villiers, who demanded Chirac quit or dissolve parliament.

Center-right leader Nicolas Sarkozy demanded policy changes.

PUNISHING CHIRAC AND THE GOVERNMENT

Many voters wanted to punish Chirac and his conservative government over unemployment that is at a 5-year high of 10.2 percent and other economic problems. Other critics were angry at what they see as France's declining role in the Union, especially with the expansion to 25 members last year.

"This is a sad, sad day for France, and a sad day for Europe too. But rumors of the constitution's demise have been greatly exaggerated," said Poul Nyrup Rasmussen, former Danish Prime Minister and president of the Party of European Socialists,

"We must not read the "non' in France as a "non' to Europe. This is not the last word on the European constitution. The French people wished to reject a tired and unpopular government that has failed to represent the concerns of ordinary people."

If the constitution does not survive, the EU will continue to operate under its current rules. But the system is widely seen as unworkable for a Union intent on enlarging further, and decision-making could soon become paralyzed.

The constitution was signed by EU leaders last October in Rome after long and tough negotiations and requires the approval of all member states to go into force.

Nine countries have approved the treaty, including Germany which alongside France drove creation of the post-World War II economic alliance that developed into the European Union.

EU officials said before the vote the treaty could be doomed if a large majority of voters in France rejected it and Dutch voters threw it out in a vote on Wednesday. Dutch ministers urged voters on Sunday to ignore the result in France.

EU leaders are expected to urge other member states to continue the ratification process.

French leaders have repeatedly ruled out a repeat vote and dismissed suggestions it could be renegotiated, although they say it would help make Europe and France stronger in the face of economic threats from other countries such as China.

Opponents want the EU to redraft the treaty and improve it. They say the charter enshrines economic policies that have failed to stop the loss of jobs to low-wage economies, including countries outside the EU.

Concerns over the constitution's fate have contributed to the euro's recent weakness and economists said before the vote that the currency could fall further in the event of a "No."

The impact of the French rejection could also be felt on the Turkish lira because it could be interpreted as a protest against Turkey's efforts to join the Union. © 2005 Reuters

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#1. To: All (#0)

the thing about the globalists, folks, is they can't really hide.

they have to stick their heads up to mouth their insane lies.

the corporate pukes are as visible...the guy from digital 'angel', etc. These are the generals of the beast.

so, who's keeping the list?

gengis gandhi  posted on  2005-05-29   17:49:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: gengis gandhi (#1)

the thing about the globalists, folks, is they can't really hide.

they have to stick their heads up to mouth their insane lies.

That's true.

robin  posted on  2005-05-29   18:01:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: gengis gandhi, *You Gotta Be Shitting Me* (#0)

Good lord, if France has a spine, and rejects the NWO Agenda, then perhaps France aint so bad after all. I mean, look at where we're going in this country. If France can reject losing their sovereignty, as well as put an end to that whole Diversity Is Our Strength Movement in their country, then maybe times they are a changing???

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2005-05-29   21:14:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: gengis gandhi (#0)

Good for France. They get a bad wrap among the tablescrap-pilfering neocons. But they have been a large part of American history, including critical help in the revolutionary war. (although we've forfeit every bit of liberty gained from that)

If you're going to hate someone, hate the Limeys for getting us involved in both World Wars, for the Balfour Declaration which resulted in getting us tied up with that bloodsucking little theocratic liability Israel, and for teaching the dot headed Habibs how to speak English and compete for economic power.

Dude Lebowski  posted on  2005-05-29   21:22:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#3)

The last time anyone in this country got to vote on anything of substance was also when we ratified our Constitution. That was in 1789.

Even then, the people were not allowed to vote directly on it. Then a few decades later when eleven of the states took it at its word and seceded, a war erupted killing 600,000.

The U.S.A. is totally controlled by the corporations. Can you imagine them allowing the people to vote on NAFTA. Hell, no!

Sam Houston  posted on  2005-05-29   21:24:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#3)

France is run by the same 1000 families since the revolution. It is a soft authoritarian bureaucratic state whose national politics are even more contrived and sad than our own (Chirac? Jospin? Talk about zero choice between candidates!) But their elite, unlike our own, is intensely patriotic and within their own MSM anti Euro Union sentiment is not only allowed but a viable and respected poltical position for both their left and right.

Burkeman1  posted on  2005-05-29   22:19:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Sam Houston (#5)

Actually- when Americans were voting for President 100 years ago they were voting on some real issues but also remember that the President wasn't the all mighty Presidor we have now and his power and even effect on the lives of Americans was distant. People turned out to vote on election to vote for mayor, state senator, town selectman- that is what motivated them- voting for President was an afterthought and had little meaning in their lives and thus they usually followed a party line or followed the endorsement of the local pol on such votes. Endorements back then- meant quite a lot. They barely merit any attention nowadays.

Your typical voter from 1905 would be baffled at our Presidential debates. Public education? "Healthcare"? Economic policy and monetary policy? Heck- the physical fitness of Americans has even been discussed in Presidentiol campaigns. They would not understand this system nor recognize it.

Burkeman1  posted on  2005-05-29   22:27:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Burkeman1 (#7)

You are right about the presidency. When Lincoln basically declared himself dictator, that was the beginning of the imperial presidency. Then there were some after him who knew their role under the Constitution and returned to it, the most admirable of which was a Democrat named Grover Cleveland. But it all ended with a bang during World War II.

The war powers of the presidency have been used and abused repeatedly for 150 years to get us to this point at which our form of government can best be described as a presidential dictatorship.

Every four years they allow us a false choice of two pre-approved globalist, corporatist candidates. For the other 1460 days we are to "just shut up" as Bill O'Reilly likes to say, or "STFU" as he probably says in his unguarded moments off the air.

Sam Houston  posted on  2005-05-29   22:36:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: gengis gandhi (#0)

France overwhelmingly rejected the European Union's constitution in a referendum on Sunday, plunging the EU into crisis and dealing a potentially fatal blow to a charter designed to make the enlarged bloc run smoothly.

The globalists aren't going to be happy about this. I think it's a pretty safe bet that the globalists will find some way to punish the commoners for not going along. There will probably be an orchestrated severe recession very soon. Maybe a few "terrorist" car bombings to show them the error of their ways.

orangedog  posted on  2005-05-29   22:50:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: orangedog (#9)

The NWO elite central planners sure aren't going to let the serfs take charge. Taking a vote is all show business in Europe just like it is here.

Richard W.

Arete  posted on  2005-05-29   23:15:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Burkeman1 (#6)

But their elite, unlike our own, is intensely patriotic

I wonder which other nations that might apply to.

robin  posted on  2005-05-29   23:19:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: orangedog (#9)

we should remember that france was the birthplace of modern democracy, and represented the end of tyrants, who were decaptitated.

also, the french, unlike Joe American, actually are pretty astute and motivated to civil disobedience.

i remember a truckers strike a few years back that shut the country down.

the french will not be, nor ever could be, subservient to some greater collective.

the NWO is dead.

keep the list, take the names.

they must be held accountable.

gengis gandhi  posted on  2005-05-30   8:02:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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