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Title: Cheap Tomatoes?
Source: Rense
URL Source: http://www.rense.com/general78/dwce.htm
Published: Sep 11, 2007
Author: A California school teacher
Post Date: 2007-09-11 13:08:37 by robin
Ping List: *The Border*
Keywords: None
Views: 169
Comments: 9

This should make everyone think, be you Democrat, Republican or Independent

From a California school teacher - - -'As you listen to the news about the student protests over illegal immigration, there are some things that you should be aware of:

I am in charge of the English-as-a-second-language department at a large southern California high school which is designated a Title 1 school, meaning that its students average lower socioeconomic and income levels.

Most of the schools you are hearing about, South Gate High, Bell Gardens , Huntington Park , etc., where these students are protesting, are also Title 1 Schools.

Title 1 schools are on the free breakfast and free lunch program. When I say free breakfast, I'm not talking a glass of milk and roll -- but a full breakfast and cereal bar with fruits and juices that would make a Marriott proud. The waste of this food is monumental, with trays and trays of it being dumped in the trash uneaten. (OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK)

I estimate that well over 50% of these students are obese or at least moderately overweight.

About 75% or more DO have cell phones. The school also provides day care centers for the unwed teenage pregnant girls (some as young as 13) so they can attend class without the inconvenience of having to arrange for babysitters or having family watch their kids. (Our TAX DOLLARS AT WORK)

I was ordered to spend $700,000 on my department or risk losing funding for the upcoming year even though there was little need for anything; My budget was already substantial.

I ended up buying new computers for the computer learning center, half of which, one month later, have been carved with graffiti by the appreciative students who obviously feel humbled and grateful to have a free education in America . (OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK)

I have had to intervene several times for young and substitute teachers whose classes consist of many illegal immigrant students here in the country less than 3 months who raised so much hell with the female teachers, calling them 'Putas' whores and throwing things at the teachers who were in tears.

Free medical, free education, free food, day care etc., etc., etc. Is it any wonder they feel entitled to not only be in this country but to demand rights, privileges and entitlements?

To those who want to point out how much these illegal immigrants contribute to our society because they LIKE their gardener and housekeeper and they like to pay less for tomatoes; spend some time in the real world of illegal immigration and see the TRUE costs.

Higher insurance, medical facilities closing, higher medical costs, more crime, lower standards of education in our schools, overcrowding, new diseases etc., etc., etc. For me, I'll pay more for tomatoes.

We need to wake up. The guest worker program will be a disaster because we won't have the guts to enforce it.

Does anyone in their right mind really think they will voluntarily leave and return?

There are many hardworking Hispanic/American citizens that contribute to our country and many that I consider my true friends. We should encourage and accept those Hispanics who have done it the right and legal way.

It does, however, have everything to do with culture: A third-world culture that does not value education, that accepts children getting pregnant and dropping out of school by 15 and that refuses to assimilate, and an American culture that has become so weak and worried about 'politically correct' that we don't have the will to do anything about it. If this makes your blood boil, as it did mine, forward this to everyone you know.

CHEAP LABOR?

Isn't that what the whole immigration issue is about?

Business doesn't want to pay a decent wage.

Consumers don't want expensive produce..

Government will tell you Americans don't want the jobs.

But the bottom line is cheap labor. The phrase 'cheap labor' is a myth, a farce, and a lie. There is no such thing as 'cheap labor.'

Take, for example, an illegal alien with a wife and five children. He takes a job for $5.00 or $6.00/hour. At that wage, with six dependents, he pays no income tax, yet at the end of the year, if he files an Income Tax Return, he gets and 'earned income credit' of up to $3,200 free.

He qualifies for Section 8 housing and subsidized rent.

He qualifies for food stamps.

He qualifies for free (no deductible, no co-pay) health care.

His children get free breakfasts and lunches at school.

He requires bilingual teachers and books. He qualifies for relief from high energy bills.

If they are or become, aged, blind or disabled, they qualify for SSI. Once qualified for SSI they can qualify for Medicare. All of this is at

(our) taxpayer's expense.

He doesn't worry about car insurance, life insurance, or homeowners insurance.

Taxpayers provide Spanish language signs, bulletins and printed material.

He and his family receive the equivalent of $20.00 to $30.00/hour in benefits.

Working Americans are lucky to have $5.00 or $6.00/hour left after paying their bills and his.The American taxpayers also pay for increased crime, graffiti and trash clean-up.

Cheap labor? YEAH RIGHT! Wake up people. THESE ARE THE QUESTIONS WE SHOULD BE ADDRESSING TO THE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES FOR EITHER PARTY. AND WHEN THEY LIE TO US AND DON'T DO AS THEY SAY, WE SHOULD REPLACE THEM AT ONCE!'

THIS HAS GOT TO BE PASSED ALONG TO AS MANY AS POSSIBLE OR WE WILL ALL GO DOWN THE DRAIN BECAUSE A FEW DON'T CARE.

As US citizens, we need to VOICE how we feel NOW - being quiet is what got us where we are now - if we continue to be quiet who knows where we will be in another 10 years.... SO SPEAK UP!

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#1. To: robin (#0)

If you are an illegal alien, you are not eligible for free health care, SS payments, subsidized housing or any other government program. You can get care at emergency rooms, true, but that's quite different than having free health care. I doubt the person who wrote this is a teacher. There is no such thing as ONE DEPARTMENT having $700K extra that they HAVE to spend. This whole thing is laughable.

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#2. To: Mekons4 (#1)

I know for a fact that illegals receive subsidized housing, and have been for decades in SoCal. Maybe they use fake IDs, but nobody checks them. In fact, I knew a family trying to get subsidized housing for years. All the units were taken, and when they went to see some new govt housing, no one there spoke a word of English. The waiting list they were on, was supposedly for 3 years. After a couple years they checked back. They were still 3 years from their housing. They asked to see the list. Everyone in the office was bilingual and almost all the names on the list were hispanic.

Illegals use ER and certain govt clinics just like a doctors office - far more expensive. In SoCal, many clinics have had to shut down, and even a hospital in Duarte shut down, specifically because they could no longer afford to stay open due to all the illegals. This was also part of the problem in a L.A. hospital. Federal law mandates medical care for all at certain facilities, but does not pay enough to keep them running. CA pays more than other states to try and cover the difference.

I was ordered to spend $700,000 on my department or risk losing funding for the upcoming year even though there was little need for anything; My budget was already substantial.

Again, I have heard this before, but it was a state run daycare center. All the field trips were saved until the end of the fiscal year, and then the children went almost every day. The money had to be spent or they would not receive the same amount next year. The director of this particular CDC daycare center explained it to me. And since then, I've heard this is true of many state and federal budgets. The more recent story was from a s/w engineer who worked at a local law enforcement agency. He said at the end of the fiscal year they started purchasing thousands of dollars of software so they would get the same amount of funding next year. He asked if he could choose some of the s/w, since they were picking almost blindfolded.

robin  posted on  2007-09-11   16:04:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: robin (#2)

While some illegals get away with sliding around the law, the original post is fishy as hell. Illegals may pay taxes, but they don't get refunds. They pay into SS, but they can't collect. They are not eligible for any federal program, and very few state programs (their kids are another story; if they are registered in school, they are eligible for some services, including subsidized meals).

I think this argument can be made without going over the top and flat-out lying. Which the writer was. Which is why I doubt highly that this is a teacher writing. And the idea of there being $700K lying around with nothing to spend it on when schools are lacking textbooks, tutors, libraries, etc. is ridiculous. I have no doubt that administrators are ordered to spend every penny they receive, as is the case in all public facilities, but that figure just jumps out and says...laughable.

I'd LOVE to see $700K worth of computers. They cost about $300 each now in bulk. That's not a computer lab...that's a computer TOWN. Or city.

Mekons4  posted on  2007-09-11   16:13:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Mekons4 (#3)

Illegals may pay taxes, but they don't get refunds. They pay into SS, but they can't collect.

That's not true. They even collect in Mexico! Remember they can purchase SSN and DL #s easily. And no one checks.

Soon it may be perfectly legal for illegals to receive SS benefits.

Illegals Granted Social Security
http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/?p=1187

In San Diego for decades, people living in Mexico have collected all kinds of govt assistance intended for citizens of this nation - including food stamps, medical care and govt checks of all kinds.

Fed wiring Social Security payments to illegals in Mexico?
Officials say no, but new task force probing 'growing' benefit fraud
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55301

This has been going on for decades. What a joke.

robin  posted on  2007-09-11   16:26:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: robin (#4)

The point is, this is fraud. They are not entitled to the money, as the post claims. And frankly, I plan to have my SS benefits wired somewhere I can afford to live after I become eligible. I imagine a lot of SS money is sent to third world countries where one can actually not be reduced to eating dogfood.

Mekons4  posted on  2007-09-11   16:53:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#9. To: Mekons4, IndieTX (#5)

The point is, this is fraud. They are not entitled to the money, as the post claims.

I see your point. I guess because the fraud is so rampant, the average American just is no longer aware it is actually fraud. The state and federal govts are stopping it, so it may as well be legal.

Just yesterday at work someone told me AZ has a new law with two steps. The first step is to fine employers who have hired illegals. And this has been enforced in several places. The second step is, if they are found in violation of the immigration laws again, then they lose their business license to do business in AZ. But, no one has enforced the second step, and likely never will.

A lot of senior citizens are looking to move to safer 3rd (or 2nd or 1st) world countries to stretch their retirement money. A pharmacist who was having to explain all the new "Plan D" Medicare nonsense said about 20% of the people he spoke with are seriously considering it.

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