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Title: 'White Voices of America' flier has residents concerned
Source: The Grand Haven Tribune
URL Source: http://www.grandhaventribune.com/paid/324705143100305.bsp
Published: May 20, 2005
Author: MARIE HAVENGA
Post Date: 2005-05-29 18:09:19 by 1776
Keywords: residents, concerned, America
Views: 28
Comments: 4

Spring Lake Village resident Donna Smith is confused by a flier that's been circulated recently throughout Spring Lake and Grand Haven.

The flier broadcasts an upcoming "White Voices of America Family Picnic and Political Discussion," although no date, time or location is mentioned.

"It's very disturbing," said Smith, whose brother found a copy of the promotion taped to a tree in Spring Lake's Central Park. "It's basically saying White Voices of America want to have a meeting to figure out what they need to do. My husband is black. In Spring Lake there are probably eight or nine people who are black. It's upsetting.

"I'm surprised more people aren't outraged, but maybe it's just coming out."

The flier states: "This is not a gathering requiring you to shave your head or wear a bed sheet and burn crosses. WVA is a small group of people wishing to unite fellow white kindred to discuss and find ways to help problems facing white America, and in your local community as well ... affirmative action, immigration, our children's schools and economic issues just to name a few."

The promotion promises a family-oriented gathering with free food and activities for children and adults.

"Since we believe we must first solve problems facing our own people, you must be of pre-dominant white ancestry to join or attend any gatherings of WVA."

Spring Lake/Ferrysburg Police Chief Roger DeYoung said the fliers have been posted "all over Grand Haven, Spring Lake and Ferrysburg." Posting such promotions in a public place violates the village's zoning ordinance.

Because of First Amendment rights, DeYoung said there's little his department can do.

"We're not saying they can't have this rally," DeYoung said. "It's freedom of speech and First Amendment rights. But they can't post the fliers on public property. That's the only enforcement we're taking at this time. If it's a civil picnic-type deal, hopefully that's all it is. I really don't want this in our area, but you really can't stop it either as long as it's going to be a pleasant 'no problems' thing. The other side usually joins in, too, then you've got the problems."

DeYoung has been unable to ascertain a date and time for the proposed rally, but he said it's planned for a Nunica location, which is out of his jurisdiction.

"Nothing has checked out yet for date and time," DeYoung said. "When we find that out we'll keep tabs on it."

Tribune phone calls to White Voices of America reached an answering machine this morning.

Smith said she doesn't want to "dog" the group "but I want to understand why they feel this way. We don't need a cross burning in our front yard. We have kids in the Spring Lake schools. My husband has done so much for this community. He's been an assistant coach for Tri-Cities football for four years and he's a youth leader for Spring Lake Wesleyan Church. These kids don't know color. It's the parents."

Smith said from what she's learned, White Voices of America aim to "have their own group" because they feel black people have their own group.

"It's very disturbing," Smith said. "I was really blown away when my brother brought this flier over a couple of days ago. What we're working toward, especially being an interracial couple, we weren't going to go that way. That's going backward. We thought it was time to voice our concerns. It's really an unbelievable thing and it's very disturbing."

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#1. To: Diana, robin, zoroaster, wbales, Eoghan, Don, Jethro Tull (#0)

Because of First Amendment rights, DeYoung said there's little his department can do.
I really don't want this in our area

Good for you Chief, these Whiteys are getting too uppity.

1776  posted on  2005-05-29   18:12:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: 1776, Dakmar (#1)

If it were "Hispanic Voices of America" or "Black Voices of America" there would be lots of praise.

It would be considered a celebration of diversity.

I do believe the white folks are being marked for eventual extermination along with the Arabs.

Diana  posted on  2005-05-29   18:45:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Diana (#2)

It would be considered a celebration of diversity.

Good point.. rather hypocritical isnt it?

Zipporah  posted on  2005-05-29   18:48:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: 1776 (#0)

Remember folks, Every White Person who is proud to be White, is a racist, and separatist.

Good Fucking Grief... Remember, White people in America ARE A MINORITY. When we breed less than other races, WE ARE A MINORITY. We have more geriatrics per capita than any other race.

White people will one day be extinct, and when that day comes, the world will be truly fucked as civilization will die with the last caucasian. GUARANTEED.

If people were to pass out fliers like that in Minneapolis, I can tell you definitively they'd be run out of town on a rail because so many white people here HATE THE FACT THAT THEY'RE WHITE.

Sorry folks, but I cannot understand how self loathing can be productive. Especially when I, and my entire family have nothing to feel guilty for. We were Scottish, Irish, and German, who never owned slaves, or oppressed people. We are the downtrodden, and the people who were indentured servants when we came to this country.

If there were a group of people who wanted to voice things from a white perspective, I'd have no problem with that, so long as they weren't a hate group. But then again, any whitey who likes being white, is a racist and hatemonger right???

This is why I'm proud to be a MAN. Now that probably makes me a masogynist.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2005-05-29   21:22:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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