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Title: Pennsylvania Man Claims to Burn Salt Water
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URL Source: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933 ... Page=fnc.technology/innovation
Published: Sep 11, 2007
Author: AP
Post Date: 2007-09-11 18:09:51 by christine
Keywords: None
Views: 187
Comments: 5

ERIE, Pa. — An Erie, Pa., cancer researcher says he has found a way to burn salt water, a novel invention that is being touted by a retired chemistry professor as the "most remarkable" water science discovery in a century.

John Kanzius says he happened upon the discovery accidentally when he tried to desalinate seawater with a radio-frequency generator he says he developed to treat cancer. He discovered that as long as the salt water was exposed to the radio frequencies, it would burn.

The discovery has scientists excited by the prospect of using salt water, the most abundant resource on earth, as a fuel.

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Rustum Roy, a Penn State University emeritus professor of chemistry, has held demonstrations at his State College, Pa., lab to confirm his own observations.

[Roy is also a specialist in "whole person healing" and Christian sexuality.]

The radio frequencies act to weaken the bonds between the elements that make up salt water, releasing the hydrogen, Roy said. Once ignited, the hydrogen will burn as long as it is exposed to the frequencies, he said.

The discovery is "the most remarkable in water science in 100 years," Roy said.

"This is the most abundant element in the world. It is everywhere," Roy said. "Seeing it burn gives me the chills."

Roy will meet this week with officials from the Department of Energy and the Department of Defense to try to obtain research funding.

Roy says the scientists want to find out whether the energy output from the burning hydrogen — which reached a heat of more than 3,000 degrees Fahrenheit — would be enough to power a car or other heavy machinery.

"We will get our ideas together and check this out and see where it leads," Roy said. "The potential is huge."

[Internet commentary upon Kanzius and Roy's assertion points out that creating fire from salt water is possible by first separating it into hydrogen, oxygen, sodium and chloride, then burning the sodium. However, such a process would consume much more energy than it produces.]

Saltwater Burns - John Kanzius

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#1. To: christine (#0)

Totally amazing! Thank you.

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Lod  posted on  2007-09-11   18:26:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: lodwick (#1)

The big question here is how much energy is going into this system via the radio waves versus how much useable energy is being produced? If there's more energy coming out than going in, then we have reason to get excited. If more energy is going in than coming out, then it's merely an interesting experiment.

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Elliott Jackalope  posted on  2007-09-11   19:30:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Elliott Jackalope, christine (#2)

The big question here is how much energy is going into this system via the radio waves versus how much useable energy is being produced? If there's more energy coming out than going in, then we have reason to get excited. If more energy is going in than coming out, then it's merely an interesting experiment.

There have been numerous inventors who have claimed to have done this. This guy isn't the first, but it's definitely good confirmation to see it again.

Yes, the big question is how efficient this energy conversion is. If you can get more energy out than you put in, then it could be some kind of cold fusion process. If not, then the water is not fuel but merely a medium like a spark plug or candle wick and won't help at all as alternate energy.

Some experiments have claimed to produce heavy hydrogen (regular hydrogen with 1 or 2 neutrons attached) by doing stuff with water.

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Pinguinite  posted on  2007-09-11   20:44:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: christine (#0)

It has been known for a long time that current applied to water liberates hydrogen. The problem is that it costs more in energy than what you get back. If he has solved that problem then this is big news.

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YertleTurtle  posted on  2007-09-11   21:02:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: YertleTurtle (#4)

If he has solved that problem then this is big news.

He hasn't; it isn't.

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Enderby  posted on  2007-09-11   21:42:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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