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Neocon Nuttery See other Neocon Nuttery Articles Title: Friedman: 'Suck on this Iraq.. we hit Iraq cause we could' Source: You Tube URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7qk ... A%2F%2Fcrooksandliars%2Ecom%2F Published: Sep 13, 2007 Author: Tom Friedman Post Date: 2007-09-13 19:34:25 by Zipporah Keywords: None Views: 260 Comments: 22 Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest #1. To: Zipporah (#0) (Edited) Thomas Friedman was born in St. Louis Park, Minnesota, a suburb of Minneapolis. As a child, he once attended a Jewish summer camp where Abe Foxman was a counselor. In high school, he wrote articles for his school's newspaper,[1] including one for which he interviewed Ariel Sharon, an Israeli general who later became Prime Minister of Israel. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Friedman Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today! robin  posted on  2007-09-13   19:43:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #2. To: Zipporah (#0) Why don't the US Marshals arrest this criminal?? Look how he acts like he's explaining this disaster to fourth graders. And this sorry sack of worm meat is responsible for getting the US into the disaster in the first place. Anyone doubt he has profited from it?? And Rush calls the NYT a "Liberal" institution. What a friqqing HOAX. "Satan / Cheney in "08" tom007  posted on  2007-09-13   19:47:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #3. To: Zipporah (#0) So much for our governments "moral position". Friedman is a total ............... Did I mention total? "Satan / Cheney in "08" tom007  posted on  2007-09-13   19:51:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #4. To: robin (#1) Have you ever read his tripe on globalism? Unreal.. here is an anti-Friedman site that criticizes Friedman here are a few Friedman quotes: "this anti-globalization movement is largely the well intentioned but ill informed being led around by the ill intentioned and well informed (protectionist unions and anarchists)" (NYT, 4/24/2001) "The economic quacks peddling conspiracy theories about globalization; the anti-free-trade extremists, such as Ralph Nader's group, Public Citizen; the protectionist trade unions; and the anarchists. These groups deserve to be called by their real name: 'The Coalition to Keep the World's Poor People Poor.' " (NYT, 4/14/2000). "they offer the third world no coherent plan for how to develop and preserve the environment. Their only plan is that developing countries stop developing." (NYT 4/14/2000) http://faculty.maxwell.syr.edu/merupert/Anti-Friedman.htm Zipporah  posted on  2007-09-13   19:52:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #5. To: tom007 (#3) ..POS? :P Zipporah  posted on  2007-09-13   19:52:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #6. To: Zipporah (#5) That works. Propagandist for the war criminal state works as well. "Satan / Cheney in "08" tom007  posted on  2007-09-13   20:01:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #7. To: Zipporah (#0) The neo-cons - and the tribe they derive from - have a fascination with 'oz -"strength"- and force as a way to solve all problems, rooted in a sense of Jewish weakness and vulnerability vis-à-vis the goyim. Ian Buruma has a fascinating take on the senile neo-con patriarch Podhoretz and his lust for serial world wars, His Toughness Problem - and Ours. "Those who give and those who receive arbitrary power are alike criminal, and there is no man but is bound to resist it to the best of his power, wherever it shall show its face to the world. Nothing but absolute impotence can justify men in not resisting it to the best of their power." ---Edmund Burke Peetie Wheatstraw  posted on  2007-09-13   20:04:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #8. To: Zipporah (#0) I think he meant to say: "We could have hit Saudi Arabia or Pakistan, but both of those nations have viable armies. So we had sanction ridden Iraq instead." Beating up much weaker opponents isn't going to deter anyone. Not that I agree with his idea, I'm just saying that his flawed logic has a whole other layer of flaws to it, kind of like an onion. Layer upon layer of stupidity. "The more I see of life, the less I fear death" - Me. Pissed Off Janitor  posted on  2007-09-13   20:31:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #9. To: robin (#1) Thomas Friedman was born in St. Louis Park, Minnesota, a suburb of Minneapolis. As a child, he once attended a Jewish summer camp where Abe Foxman was a counselor. In high school, he wrote articles for his school's newspaper,[1] including one for which he interviewed Ariel Sharon, an Israeli general who later became Prime Minister of Israel. The media gives us "choice" just as Washington gives us "choice." We can "choose" between a "liberal" like Clinton or a "conservative" like Shrub. Both give us wars and economic globalism. Along the same lines, we can read "liberal" NY Times commentators like Friedman or "conservative" commentators like William Safire! Isn't the free press great? You get to read either a "liberal" Zionist or a "conservative" Zionist's views on foreign policy. Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2007-09-14   14:42:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #10. To: Pissed Off Janitor (#8) (Edited) think he meant to say: "We could have hit Saudi Arabia or Pakistan, but both of those nations have viable armies. So we had sanction ridden Iraq instead." Beating up much weaker opponents isn't going to deter anyone. Not that I agree with his idea, I'm just saying that his flawed logic has a whole other layer of flaws to it, kind of like an onion. Layer upon layer of stupidity. Bingo. US warmongers are full of courage when it comes to attacking impoverished and powerless nations. Kind of like the schoolyard bully who beats up the younger kids but wouldn't dare start of fight with anyone near his own age and size. Charley Reese said it best: if a Roman Emperor or general came back to his country with a "victory" of the sort Clinton had against Milosevic or Shrub had against Hussein, his victory parade might have a single donkey pulling a rotten cart. Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2007-09-14   14:48:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #11. To: Rupert_Pupkin, Eoghan (#9) Isn't the free press great? You get to read either a "liberal" Zionist or a "conservative" Zionist's views on foreign policy. It's getting tiresome. Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today! robin  posted on  2007-09-14   14:55:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #12. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#7) I just finished the link, Peetie. Norman Podhoretz is a foreign policy adviser Rudy Giuliani? Oy. Here's the rest of Rudy's team. It reads like the 2nd shift at Katz's Deli: http://www .gwu.edu/~action/2008/giuliani/giuliani071007pr.html Rudy Giuliani Announces Foreign Policy Team Members Charles Hill to serve as Chief Foreign Policy Advisor; Norman Podhoretz joins as a Senior Foreign Policy Advisor New York City – The Rudy Giuliani Presidential Committee announced today several members of Mayor Giuliani’s foreign policy team. The team will advise the Mayor on a foreign policy vision that advances the United States as a world leader, while expanding America’s involvement in the global economy, strengthening our reputation around the world, and keeping our country on the offense in the Terrorists’ War on Us. Charles Hill, former executive aide to President Ronald Reagan’s Secretary of State George P. Shultz, a lecturer in the International Security Studies program at Yale University, a special consultant on policy to the United Nations Secretary-General, and a research fellow at the Hoover Institution, will serve as the Chairman of the Senior Foreign Policy Advisory Board. He is also the campaign’s Chief Foreign Policy Advisor. Senior foreign policy team members include Norman Podhoretz and Senator Bob Kasten. Other team members include Steve Rosen, Senior Defense Advisor; Martin Kramer, Senior Middle East Advisor; S. Enders Wimbush, Senior Public Diplomacy Advisor; Peter Berkowitz, Senior Statecraft, Human Rights and Freedom Advisor; and Kim R. Holmes, a Senior Foreign Policy Advisor. - Snip Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-09-14   16:02:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #13. To: Jethro Tull (#12) http://www .gwu.edu/~action/2008/giuliani/giuliani071007pr.html Is there an American in the lot? Cynicom  posted on  2007-09-14   16:11:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #14. To: Cynicom (#13) Bagles to right of them, Yarmulkes to left of them, Blintzes in front of them Volley'd and thunder'd; Storm'd at with shot and shell, Boldly the Goy rode and well, Into the jaws of Death, Into the mouth of Hell Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-09-14   16:24:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #15. To: Jethro Tull (#14) Bagles to right of them, Yarmulkes to left of them, Blintzes in front of them Fine form today. Cynicom  posted on  2007-09-14   16:26:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #16. To: tom007 (#2) Why don't the US Marshals arrest this criminal?? Look how he acts like he's explaining this disaster to fourth graders. And this sorry sack of worm meat is responsible for getting the US into the disaster in the first place. Anyone doubt he has profited from it?? And Rush calls the NYT a "Liberal" institution. What a friqqing HOAX. Friedman sure knows how to pundit. He just keeps saying, "in six months or so, we should see the situation stabilize in Iraq." Well, someday, he's going to be right. Probably long after we've gotten our butts out of there, but someday he will be correct. Just like the proverbial stopped clock. My former father-in-law was a senior reporter for the NYTimes, so I know quite a few of their people. Plutocrat wannabes, perhaps, but liberals? Hah! Mekons4  posted on  2007-09-14   16:38:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #17. To: Jethro Tull (#12) Yer gonna LOVE this! DEPARTMENT Washington Babylon BY Ken Silverstein PUBLISHED August 28, 2007 Add another neoconservative adviser on the Middle East to an already impressive roster–Daniel Pipes signed on with Rudy Giuliani’s campaign today. I’d heard Pipes was advising Giuliani and asked him about it yesterday. He told me by e-mail that he had “close relations with several people in the campaign,” but said that he did not have “official connection to it.” He e-mailed back just now to say that, as of today, he has officially signed up with the campaign. I think it’s fair to say that Pipes is even further out ideologically than Norman Podhoretz, another Giuliani adviser. Readers unfamiliar with Pipes can check out his profile at Wikipedia. For a representative sampling of his work, consider a 2006 article he wrote in the Jerusalem Post (not available online): Iraq’s plight is neither a coalition responsibility nor a particular danger to the West. Fixing Iraq is neither the coalition’s responsibility, nor its burden. When Sunni terrorists target Shi’ites and vice versa, non-Muslims are less likely to be hurt. Civil war in Iraq, in short, would be a humanitarian tragedy, but not a strategic one. Mekons4  posted on  2007-09-14   18:13:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #18. To: All (#17) When Sunni terrorists target Shi’ites and vice versa, non-Muslims are less likely to be hurt. Wonder which specific Non-Muslims he's referring to...I just WONDER. Mekons4  posted on  2007-09-14   18:15:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #19. To: Mekons4 (#16) Plutocrat wannabes, perhaps, but liberals? Hah! Mekons4 posted on 2007-09-14 16:38:27 ET Reply Trace Private Reply So easy to believe. "Satan / Cheney in "08" tom007  posted on  2007-09-14   20:18:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #20. To: Mekons4 (#17) I think it’s fair to say that Pipes is even further out ideologically than Norman Podhoretz, another Giuliani adviser. Pipes is a NUT who is anxiously promotes genocide. And way too many Christian Churches give him an ill thought out mouth piece. "Satan / Cheney in "08" tom007  posted on  2007-09-14   20:21:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #21. To: Mekons4 (#17) Daniel Pipes signed on with Rudy Giuliani’s campaign today Rudy has most of the PNAC signees as foreigh policy advisors. What's his campaign slogan, perpetual war for perpetual peace? Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-09-14   20:22:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #22. To: Jethro Tull (#21) Heck, sign on Cheney as VP, and he'll have a solid PNAC majority. Now there's a thought that will keep me up nights. Mekons4  posted on  2007-09-14   22:57:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest

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