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Title: Did Jews Trick America Into Entering The First World War?
Source: Useless-Knowledge.com
URL Source: http://www.useless-knowledge.com/1234/apr/article322.html
Published: May 30, 2005
Author: Thomas Keyes
Post Date: 2005-05-30 10:25:50 by Zoroaster
Keywords: Entering, America, Trick
Views: 1110
Comments: 94

Did Jews Trick America Into Entering The First World War?

By Thomas Keyes Apr. 23, 2005

Herbert Asquith was the prime minister of England from 1908-1916, midway into the First World War. His chancellor, David Lloyd George, with the support of his confederates, who were critical of Asquith's direction of the British war effort, managed to topple Asquith, succeeding him as prime minister. David Lloyd George, though an evangelical Christian, like his American counterpart, Woodrow Wilson, was also an ardent Zionist, again like Wilson.

Chaim Weizmann (1874-1952), who would be the first president of Israel, was born in Motol, Russia (now in Belarus) and educated in Switzerland, where he received his Ph.D.in chemistry. Later he taught at Manchester University in England, becoming a British subject in 1910. According to most historical accounts, he helped Britain develop a procedure for producing acetone, a strategically important chemical used in manufacturing explosives, from horse chestnuts. Lloyd George claimed in his memoirs that it was in recognition of this contribution that he issued the Balfour Declaration, sometimes called the birth certificate of the state of Israel. However, historian David Fromkin of Boston University and others call this a fiction. Weizmann does not mention it in his autobiography.

Here is the text of the the Balfour Declaration.

"Foreign Office. November 2nd, 1917. Dear Lord Rothschild.

I have much pleasure in conveying to you, on behalf of His Majesty's Government, the following declaration of sympathy with Jewish Zionist aspirations which has been submitted to, and approved by, the Cabinet.

'His Majesty's Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country.'

I should be grateful if you would bring this declaration to the knowledge of the Zionist Federation.

Yours sincerely. Arthur James Balfour".

If David Lloyd George did not issue the Balfour Declaration to recompense Weizmann's service, as a chemist, to Great Britain, then, why did he issue it? According to some researchers, Lloyd George and Weizmann made a deal. At the time, the war was stalemated. Weizmann agreed, according to this version, to help draw the US into the war on the side of the allies, Britain, France and Russia, tipping the balance in their favor, against Germany, Austria-Hungary (then one country) and Turkey.

It will be remembered, for one thing, that Turkey, or the Ottoman Empire, as it was then called, controlled Palestine, Syria, Lebanon and other parts of the Near East. If England could help found a Jewish state in the region, once it had appropriated it from the Turks, it would afford protection for their shipping through the Suez Canal. Weizmann, for his part, preferred Palestine to uninhabited parts of Uganda, where the Jews had already been offered a homeland. Apparently, Weizmann did not know of the existence of the Sykes-Picot Agreement of 1916, whereby France and England had already drawn a map of the Middle East that they would implement in the event of victory. England had also made conflicting agreements with the Arabs. Don't let Christianity stop anyone from making contradictory promises!

What sparked America's entry into WWI was the Zimmermann telegram, which created a furor in the US, when released to the public on March 1, 1917. This was an encrypted telegram sent on January 16, 1917 by German Foreign Minister, Arthur Zimmermann, to Count von Bernstorff, the German ambassador to the US, to be forwarded to the President of México. Nigel de Grey and William Montgomery, of British intelligence had deciphered the intercepted telegram, according to the official version. The text of the telegram, from "The Zimmermann Telegram" by Barbara Tuchman, published in 1966 by Ballantine Books, follows.

"Most Secret. For Your Excellency's personal information and to be handed on to the Imperial Minister in Mexico.

We intend to begin unrestricted submarine warfare on the first of February. We shall endeavor in spite of this to keep the United States neutral. In the event of this not succeeding, we make Mexico a proposal of an alliance on the following basis: Make war together, make peace together, generous financial support, and an understanding on our part that Mexico is to reconquer the lost territory in Texas, New Mexico, and Arizona. The settlement detail is left to you.

You will inform the President (of Mexico) of the above most secretly as soon as the outbreak of war with the United States is certain and add the suggestion that he should, on his own initiative, invite Japan to immediate adherence and at the same time mediate between Japan and ourselves.

Please call the President's attention to the fact that the unrestricted employment of our submarines now offers the prospect of compelling England to make peace within a few months. Acknowledge receipt.

Zimmermann".

Firstly, here the Germans were offering the Mexicans an alliance to be effectuated if and only if the US should enter the war, which clearly the Germans were seeking, and had every reason to seek, to avoid, so that barring US's declaring war, the effect of the telegram would have been null and nil. So if the telegram had not been deciphered, the US might not have entered the war and the proffered alliance would never have come into play. Thus the recommendations of the telegram would have been strictly moot and academic, an historical curiosity.

Secondly, one wonders if it was intended to be taken seriously. Could México have had even the remotest dream of recovering Texas, New Mexico and Arizona? Venustiano Carranza, the Mexican president, rejected the offer, as attractive as one might imagine he may have considered it.

But the question here is how the telegram came to be decoded. The Germans, whom four years of wartime intelligence and espionage had made experts in cryptology, had encoded the telegram in a recently created code, Code 7500. According to some authorities, there had not been enough messages transmitted in Code 7500 for the British to have been able to decipher the telegram. These same authorities see the hand of Chaim Weizmann in this piece of treachery.

Weizmann had connections in Germany in high places. Some authorities think that Weizmann may have been instrumental in getting one of the influential Jews in Germany to obtain Code 7500 from the German Foreign Ministry and to betray it to the British, which, of course, would have been a treasonable act. Anyway, the decipherment did accomplish the desired result of drawing the US needlessly into the war, thereby assuring an allied victory. Thus, the Ottoman Empire, including Palestine, came into Anglo-French hands, and the British were able to fulfill the promise made in the Balfour Declaration, in spite of their contradictory promises to the Arabs. Later the Balfour Declaration was introduced in US Congress by Hamilton Fish of New York and adopted.

With Jewish control of the US media and publishing industry, this view of the events leading to American's entry into WWI has been played down or silenced for decades, but certainly provides a believable explanation. Winston Churchill later only vaguely alluded to such a deal, and was reluctant to abide by it. When asked by William Yale, of the US State Department what the Jews would do if the British failed to live up to their agreement, Chaim Weizmann retorted, "If they don’t, we’ll smash the British Empire like we smashed the Russian Empire.”

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#36. To: Burkeman1 (#35)

Doesn't a Jew just ever want to make money? Can't they just make money and not have some grand conspiracy around them?

The ones in power over the Western Media sure know how to pitch the same cultural indoctrination: Multiculturalism, Tolerance, Filth, subordination of Whites. It's like clockwork anywhere they control media. From Scandinavia to Sacremento, they whistle the same tune. You don't think people won't notice?

You know what upsets people about the Jews?

Yep. Because they place themselves at odds with the world and make themselves an supremely difficult burden to bear.

Is that they still have a sense of themselves wherever they go and they stick together.

Nope. Many foreigners the world over do these very things and no one is relentlessly hassling them. OTH, the record shows that one group specifically that is keen on remaking others in their fashion. And for them the bill always comes due.

Dude Lebowski  posted on  2005-05-30   18:42:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Dude Lebowski (#36)

Put themselves "at odds with the world". Well, how does one go about doing that? That is pretty tall order.

And as for other ethnic groups going around the world not being targeted you are laughably woefully wrong. There are dozens of examples of high achieving groups going to other countries, quickly overtaking the locals in all professions and business and being despised for it.

I suggest you read a book. Migrations and Cultures, by Thomas Sowell. In it he examines the experiences of high achieving ethnic groups in foreign lands they emmigrated too and in each case the sort of baloney BS against the Jews that has been created by a resentful local populace and exploited by opportunists and fantasists was created on these lessor known groups as well- like the Chineese in Malayasia and Indonesia or the Indians in Africa or even the Tutsi over the Hutu.

Burkeman1  posted on  2005-05-30   19:19:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Burkeman1 (#37)

While we're recommending books to each other, might I suggest reading "The Culture of Critique: An Evolutionary Analysis of Jewish Involvement in Twentieth-Century Intellectual and Political Movements" by Dr. Kevin MacDonald. I think you'll find it very interesting, and also answer a lot of questions you might have about why a lot of people are becoming rather concerned about Israel and Zionism.

You might also want to read "By Way of Deception" by Victor Ostrovsky. Again, I think you'll find it interesting, and it might also help to answer some of the questions you might have about why so many people are getting very concerned about Israel and Zionism.

Elliott Jackalope  posted on  2005-05-30   19:27:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Burkeman1 (#37)

Put themselves "at odds with the world". Well, how does one go about doing that? That is pretty tall order.

And as for other ethnic groups going around the world not being targeted you are laughably woefully wrong. There are dozens of examples of high achieving groups going to other countries, quickly overtaking the locals in all professions and business and being despised for it.

There's a difference between being a distrusted foreigner in a strange land and being universally despised and ejected from most every land you've ever set foot in.

It's not a tall order really, simply insist on always having a moral hegemony over others, teach their impressionable youth to adopt destructive behavior, loose hordes of swarthy peasants upon them, replace their financial and governmental systems with ones favorable to you and inundate their legal system with your tricky nuances. A people born of the ancient Middle Eastern Bazaars who are experienced in fighting for nothing except their own interests should find it a cakewalk, except for the occasional ass-whoopin which their own forebearers have warned them about.

Between the two of us, I'm really not passionate about the subject I'm just telling you how the educated world sees it. You're acting like Trace21230 on the subject, which is sad because I always thought you were cool.

Dude Lebowski  posted on  2005-05-30   19:43:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Zoroaster (#22)

More than 1,600 American soldiers have been played to death fighting Israel's enemies in Iraq.

That is surely something the MSM will never allow the sheeple to know.

NOT OIL BUT ISRAEL

1776  posted on  2005-05-30   20:48:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: 1776 (#40)

NOT OIL BUT ISRAEL

Excellent article.

wbales  posted on  2005-05-30   20:51:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: wbales (#41)

Is it any wonder they want to censor the internet?
Every single day another person finds out about the Secret

1776  posted on  2005-05-30   20:54:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: 1776 (#42)

Is it any wonder they want to censor the internet?

Damn right. The ZOG and the establishment HATE the internet. They FEAR the internet. They fear an informed populace.

wbales  posted on  2005-05-30   20:57:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: 1776, Zoroaster, Zipporah, wbales (#40)

NOT OIL BUT ISRAEL

Here's an additionsl reason perhaps...

A
growing problem

A growing problem


May 28, 2005

robin  posted on  2005-05-30   21:04:06 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: robin (#44)

VERY interesting point. Uncle Sam comes in and production goes way up.

wbales  posted on  2005-05-30   21:08:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Burkeman1 (#35)

Yeah- where their agenda was what exactly? Making movies like "Moses" and all sorts of bible stories that Christians loved? Geesus if the Jews had somehow ended up running the postal service you would blame them for the same things. Doesn't a Jew just ever want to make money? Can't they just make money and not have some grand conspiracy around them? A lot of Jews in the Hollywood? Gee- that's funny- it was friggin founded by Jews. And gee- they help each other out. What a surprise. I suppose the Armenians don't or Italians?

Usually I just stick to personal finance threads.

But in response to your earlier comment about how Jews can't even decide where to go for dinner without 20 minutes of argument--if true, I find it more than a little creepy that Jews dominate not only Hollywood, but nearly all of the print and broadcast media too.

I suppose Jews make up about as much of the American population as Armenians, maybe a little more, but wouldn't it be weird if the Armenians had nearly complete control over your entertainment and news sources?

This goes quite a bit beyond just "sticking together" and "hiring others of your kind". Hell, the Belgian-Americans are famous for that, yet they don't control the American farming industry.

Indrid Cold  posted on  2005-05-30   21:14:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Indrid Cold, christine, robin, wbales, zipporah, Eoghan, Elliott Jackalope, Diana (#46)

I find it more than a little creepy that Jews dominate not only Hollywood, but nearly all of the print and broadcast media too.

How is it that much less than 2% of the population also are the commissioners of all 5 major pro sports leagues? I mean 5 out of 5, check it out for yourself, the NBA, the NFL, the NHL, Major League Baseball, Major League Soccer, and they say that there is nothing going on?

1776  posted on  2005-05-30   21:19:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: 1776 (#47)

How is it that much less than 2% of the population also are the commissioners of all 5 major pro sports leagues? I mean 5 out of 5, check it out for yourself, the NBA, the NFL, the NHL, Major League Baseball, Major League Soccer, and they say that there is nothing going on?

And how many Senators and Representatives? It's funny. People say the White Gentiles are over-represented in any field they dominate and that their power must be broken up. Why does one group get immunity from that sort of criticism?

Must be the P.R. department.

Dude Lebowski  posted on  2005-05-30   21:34:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: 1776 (#47)

#13

"...

In order that the masses themselves may not guess what they are about WE FURTHER DISTRACT THEM WITH AMUSEMENTS, GAMES, PASTIMES, PASSIONS, PEOPLE'S PALACES .... SOON WE SHALL BEGIN THROUGH THE PRESS TO PROPOSE COMPETITIONS IN ART, IN SPORT IN ALL KINDS: these interests will finally distract their minds from questions in which we should find ourselves compelled to oppose them.

..."

wbales  posted on  2005-05-30   21:40:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: 1776 (#49)

Hey, wait,...I'm sorry, 1776...pay no attention to that forgery.

;>)

wbales  posted on  2005-05-30   21:42:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Burkeman1 (#2)

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/biography/Brandeis.html

Louis Brandeis was born in Louisville, Kentucky in 1856 to a family tolerant of Jewish and Christian rituals. In later life Brandeis might be best described as a secular­humanist. Although he completed his secondary education in Germany, he returned to the United States where he studied law at Harvard. After settling in Boston, Brandeis became a successful lawyer spending a good deal of his time pursuing cases with a political bent. In particular, he enjoyed representing small companies against giant corporations, and aiding the cause of the minimum wage against companies opposed to this principle. In 1912, he supported Woodrow Wilson's nomination for Presidency and in 1916, was appointed a Supreme Court judge, the first Jew ever to be appointed to this position.

Brandeis showed little interest in Jewish affairs until the turn of the century when a combination of his professional work and a changing political climate brought about an alteration. He was introduced to Zionism by Jacob de Haas, an English Zionist, and later still by Aaron Aaronsohn, the Palestinian botanist and founder of Nili.

Brandeis became active in Zionist affairs during the First World War, when he accepted the role of Chairperson of the Provisional Executive Committee for General Zionist Affairs. Brandeis had a major impact on the American branch of the Zionist movement, drawing to it a number of sympathizers, improving its organization and its finance.

Whilst he resigned his official position on joining the Supreme Court, he nonetheless worked behind the scenes to influence President Woodrow Wilson to support the Zionist cause. After the war, Brandeis headed a delegation of American Zionists to London where at a conference differences emerged between Chaim Weizmann and himself. These arguments over the role of the organization and its pursuit of political activities caused a rift between the two leaders with Weizmann gaining the upper hand. Brandeis withdrew from Zionist activity although he continued to take part in Eretz­Israel economic affairs. Brandeis did intervene from time to time in political matters for example he appealed to Roosevelt to oppose the British partition scheme of 1937 calling instead for the whole area of Eretz­Israel to become a Jewish National Home.

Brandeis represented a rather different genre of Zionism, one born out of the American context that affirmed Zionism as part of American ethnic identity. It was Brandeis who coined the term that "to be a good American meant that local Jews should be Zionists."

He died in Washington, D.C. in 1941.

honway  posted on  2005-05-30   22:04:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: honway (#51)

Whilst he resigned his official position on joining the Supreme Court, he nonetheless worked behind the scenes to influence President Woodrow Wilson to support the Zionist cause.

Hmm I vaguely remember something about this.. IF I remember correctly did he not 'blackmail' Wilson regarding his involvement in some way with a woman?

Zipporah  posted on  2005-05-30   22:31:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: honway (#51)

And, seemingly overnight, the federal media became a war party propaganda machine. And, the American sheeple went "BBBAAAAAAAAHHHH".

wbales  posted on  2005-05-30   22:41:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Zipporah (#52)

IF I remember correctly did he not 'blackmail' Wilson regarding his involvement in some way with a woman?

It was very successful.

So much so it appears today being "compromised" is a prerequisite for high government office;hence, the Jeff Gannons and Franklin Cover-ups.

honway  posted on  2005-05-30   22:49:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: wbales (#53)

And, seemingly overnight, the federal media became a war party propaganda machine. And, the American sheeple went "BBBAAAAAAAAHHHH".

'Those who forget history are condemned to repeat it'.

honway  posted on  2005-05-30   22:50:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: honway (#54)

It was very successful.

So much so it appears today being "compromised" is a prerequisite for high government office;hence, the Jeff Gannons and Franklin Cover-ups.

True.. and the set up the situations for future 'need'.. sickening really..

Zipporah  posted on  2005-05-30   23:01:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: wbales, robin (#50)

pay no attention to that forgery.

Just because it matches today's world events doesn't mean its true you know. ;)

1776  posted on  2005-05-31   11:44:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Burkeman1 (#35)

Yeah- where their agenda was what exactly? Making movies like "Moses" and all sorts of bible stories that Christians loved?

Moses was a Jew. An "Old Testament Jew", who was non-threatening to Christians, certainly, but a Jew nonetheless.

It's not like they made a movie about Ganesh or Vishnu.

Indrid Cold  posted on  2005-06-01   1:36:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Indrid Cold (#58)

Moses was a Jew. An "Old Testament Jew", who was non-threatening to Christians, certainly, but a Jew nonetheless.

Moses was an Israelite/Hebrew ... and NEVER WAS HE A JEW ... There were NO CHRISTIANS at the time of Moses ...

The people calling themselves Jews today (90%) are in actuallity not at all ethnically related to Moses or Abraham or Jesus. They are Eastern European Mongols that adopted the religion of Judaism in the mid 8th Century AD.

noone222  posted on  2005-06-01   7:02:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Burkeman1 (#24)

But I am not going to entertian tired old tripe about the Rothschilds or Jew bankers behind massive world conspiracies or protocols

My "jew" detector is flashing incessantly !

noone222  posted on  2005-06-01   7:20:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Burkeman1 (#2)

Jews were still rag pickers and garment workers in 1917 for the most part in America.

Defenders of the poor, poor, persecuted jews ... nonsense.

Funny how Arator and Burkeman jumped on this at exactly the same moment.

noone222  posted on  2005-06-01   7:25:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: noone222 (#59)

Moses, if he existed at all, was a Levite. In the OT ancient Israel was a confederation of twelve tribes generally traced to Jacob's twelve sons -- six by Leah (Reuben, Simeon, Levi, Judah, Issachar, Zebulun, two by Rachael (Joseph, Benjamin), two by Rachel's maid Bihah (Dan, Naphtali, and two by Leah's maid Zilpha (Gad, Asjer; the name Israel has been given to Jacob after the story of his wrestling with a divine being.

Life is a tragety to those who feel, and a comedy to those who think.

Zoroaster  posted on  2005-06-01   7:26:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: noone222, Burkeman1 (#60)

But I am not going to entertian tired old tripe about the Rothschilds or Jew bankers behind massive world conspiracies or protocols.

Signed,

Lord Burkemanstein.

Yep, he's super sensative about this subject matter.

Eoghan  posted on  2005-06-01   7:29:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: All (#62)

two by Rachel's maid Bihah (Dan, Naphtali, and two by Leah's maid Zilpha (Gad, Asjer; the name Israel has been given to Jacob after the story of his wrestling with a divine being.

CORRECTION

two by Rachel's maid Bihah (Dan, Naphali) and two by Leah's maid Zilpha (Gad, Asher);. . ..

Life is a tragety to those who feel, and a comedy to those who think.

Zoroaster  posted on  2005-06-01   7:37:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Arator (#14)

ignore the inbred Anglo elite war-wagers

You appear to be an "anti-anglo" jew propagandist ...

noone222  posted on  2005-06-01   7:39:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Zipporah (#20)

Written: Richard Perle, James Colbert, Charles Fairbanks, Jr., Douglas Feith, Robert Loewenberg, David Wurmser, and Meyrav Wurmser participated.

The "Synagogue of Satan"

noone222  posted on  2005-06-01   7:41:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: 1776 (#27)

"Every time anyone says that Israel is our only friend in the Middle East, I can't help but think that before Israel, we had no enemies in the Middle East." John Sheehan, S.J. (a Jesuit priest)

Simple Logic is "BRILLIANCE" emancipated !

noone222  posted on  2005-06-01   7:42:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Zoroaster (#62)

Moses, if he existed at all, was a Levite. In the OT ancient Israel was a confederation of twelve tribes generally traced to Jacob's twelve sons -- six by Leah (Reuben, Simeon, Levi, Judah, Issachar, Zebulun, two by Rachael (Joseph, Benjamin), two by Rachel's maid Bihah (Dan, Naphtali, and two by Leah's maid Zilpha (Gad, Asjer; the name Israel has been given to Jacob after the story of his wrestling with a divine being.

I'm up to speed on your analysis of the Tribes of Israel and where they got their names. These Tribes having nothing whatsoever to do with modern Jewry from an ethnic perspective because 90% of modern Jewry are Ashkenazi Jews ... and are descendants of religious converts not ethnic Jews or Hebrews descended from The Tribes, Moses, or Abraham.

All of the hocus pocus related to the current trespassers in Israel being Abraham's descendants and therefore inheiritors of the Promised land is just so much bullshit spewed by zionazis.

noone222  posted on  2005-06-01   7:54:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: noone222, 1776, All (#67)

"Every time anyone says that Israel is our only friend in the Middle East, I can't help but think that before Israel, we had no enemies in the Middle East." John Sheehan, S.J. (a Jesuit priest)

Simple Logic is "BRILLIANCE" emancipated !

That simple statement would give the sheeple something to think about, if they ever managed to hear it.

robin  posted on  2005-06-01   9:09:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: noone222 (#61)

Funny how Arator and Burkeman jumped on this at exactly the same moment.

No, it isn't funny. See- my Jew Conspiracy decoder ring with built in two way communication allowed me and my fellow Jew conspirator to coordinate our psyops assault on this thread. You get the ring along with your packets poison for dropping in village wells at your bar mitsvah- when the Elders lay out "the plan" to you and assign you your role.

Congrats, first person on 4Rum to go on my Bozo list.

Burkeman1  posted on  2005-06-01   9:25:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Arator (#21)

Jew-obsessors,...

Why, exactly, do you think someone would be a "Jew-obsessor"? What would cause that?

In 1947, the UN created a perpetual war and named it Israel.

wbales  posted on  2005-06-01   9:30:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: Burkeman1, 1776, Zoroaster, Arator, Indrid Cold, christine, robin, zipporah, Eoghan (#24)

But I am not going to entertian tired old tripe about the Rothschilds or Jew bankers behind massive world conspiracies or protocols or how the black plauge was a jew plot or whatever.

In post #47, 1776 said:

“How is it that much less than 2% of the population also are the commissioners of all 5 major pro sports leagues? I mean 5 out of 5, check it out for yourself, the NBA, the NFL, the NHL, Major League Baseball, Major League Soccer, and they say that there is nothing going on?”.

Responding to that in post #49 above, I posted an excerpt from the 13th Protocol of Zion:

“…In order that the masses themselves may not guess what they are about WE FURTHER DISTRACT THEM WITH AMUSEMENTS, GAMES, PASTIMES, PASSIONS, PEOPLE'S PALACES .... SOON WE SHALL BEGIN THROUGH THE PRESS TO PROPOSE COMPETITIONS IN ART, IN SPORT IN ALL KINDS: these interests will finally distract their minds from questions in which we should find ourselves compelled to oppose them.”

Is this type observation what you consider to be “tired old tripe”? Do you consider this observation/connection to be totally invalid and/or unreasonable?

In 1947, the UN created a perpetual war and named it Israel.

wbales  posted on  2005-06-01   9:44:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: wbales (#72)

Congrats, number 2.

Burkeman1  posted on  2005-06-01   9:44:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: Burkeman1 (#73)

Is this type observation what you consider to be “tired old tripe”? Do you consider this observation/connection to be totally invalid and/or unreasonable?

Congrats, number 2.

I'll take that as a "Yes". :>)

In 1947, the UN created a perpetual war and named it Israel.

wbales  posted on  2005-06-01   9:47:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: 1776 (#31)

There ought to be a law to silence these people just like in France, Germany, Canada, Australia, and elsewhere.
Free Speech is fine, but needs to be severely restricted.

God forbid us looking beyond the U.S. Constitution and to other nations for such laws.

Nobody censors speech they agree with

NOLAJBS  posted on  2005-06-01   9:55:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: Burkeman1 (#73)

I think what you are seeing is an attempt to understand patterns. Some have already come to conclusions about these particular patterns. Others are still forming an opinion. Still others have no opinion.

My point is, discussing these patterns, or connecting these dots, should remain open.

Chertoff, Negroponte, Wolfowitz, Perle, Feith, Abrams, Zakheim and others have been appointed by this administration. And some of them have dual-citizenship with Israel. Given their positions, and our govt's policy trends, their loyalties should be scrutinized.

The MSM is not even looking at these people or the potential for treason.
This forum is one of the few places trying to air these ideas. If sometimes one or two of us come across too strong, it is out of the frustration that these ideas are stifled everywhere else.

robin  posted on  2005-06-01   9:56:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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