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Dead Constitution See other Dead Constitution Articles Title: A correct answer to the We the People group The following is an letter posted in the Family Forum Government and legal profession scams and propaganda and is right on point as regards the We the People group. At the very end, I have added a final comment I posted there in an argument I am having with a devotee of the Constitution. It is relavant. Dear Linda and Scott, I purposely deleted all the material I had previously downloaded from the WTP site. Why? Because I realized how foolish it was to try and force the government and it's mostly corrupt and ignorant employees to admit their wrongdoing in the existing court system. Ed and I have attempted on numerous occasions (prior to his trial) to convince Mr. Shultz that obtaining justice from the "judiciary" and the corrupt judges who sit on the bench is virtually impossible. Bob Schultz found out the hard way, just as Irwin Schiff and many before them discovered that justice is unobtainable. The judges are administrative officers rather than judicial officers and when you step foot in "their" courtroom, THEY make the rules. If you fill out and sign the required government forms that no doubt have POP statements attached, you have given consent to them and it matters not what justice really means. You have submitted to their "administrative" authority and they dispense their "own" form of justice because THEY CAN! Ironically, none of this is unconstitutional because if you do as Bob S. and Irwin S. did, you have voluntarily submitted to their authority. This means you must comply with whatever decision is made by them whether or not you or anyone else believes it is fair or not. Try to "tell" them what you believe or have discovered and they will simply disallow any of that in THEIR courtroom. Irwin Schiff, Ed Schultz and even Ed Rivera suffered this kind of injustice but we must learn from their experience and more importantly their mistakes and hopefully use that knowledge learned to be free. Irwin Schiff and Ed Schultz ignored Ed Rivera and our pleas to listen and read what he discovered. Had they listened and read Ed's material, more than likely, they would be free now. Instead they are being punished for telling the truth only the sentence was much longer because of felony convictions handed down by an uninformed jury that never heard the defense's arguments. The outcome was 100% predictable because they were uninformed and unprepared. Ed Rivera taught me how to discover the truth on my own and thus think on my own as well. I recently challenged the courts in my own divorce and shook the Napa County court system at its very foundation by using the knowledge I have acquired from Ed. I read the material and asked Ed lots of questions and as a result eventually learned what I needed to know. The court employees did not know what to do with me and I caused quite a stir down there but now I truly am a free man. They simply ignored me and never replied to my letters because they knew I was right. They knew I had taken the time to educate myself and that I know laws are for government, NOT people. I am no smarter than the average person. I just found there was a secret that no one knew about until Ed came along. The government and its employees have no recourse when they discover you are right...that is, unless you attempt to confront them and force them to admit their ignorance and wrongdoing in THEIR courtroom. They don't want to be discovered for fear of embarrassment and ultimately, a huge loss of income and valuable entitlements. In their courtroom, the judge will simply do everything in his power to shut you down. He accomplishes this by disallowing any evidence that proves you are not guilty of anything except telling the truth! Schiff and Schultz are actually prime examples of what NOT to do. Ed will point you in the right direction but it is up to you, the student as to whether or not you educate yourself and make the right choices. In Ed Rivera's case, he confronted the judge in his court and it was something to see...I was there and witnessed it all in person. The judge turned a few shades of red as Ed made his case and called judge King's lack of jurisdiction a travesty of justice and that as long as this secret was kept under wraps, there was no way that he or anyone else could expect justice to prevail in America. Judge George King, or as Ed referred to him,"King George" purposely avoided a jury trial even though a conviction by jury would have carried a far more serious penalty should Ed have been found guilty. The judge knew that the LAST thing he wanted was to have Ed expose the truth to jury members by using his courtroom as a platform. He also knew of no way to guarantee Ed would not be able to educate the jury about how the system was created and thus tell the truth for all to know. Had Ed been tried by jury, it is possible the government could and most certainly would have incarcerated him for much longer...up to 10 years for a felony contempt conviction. Instead, Ed was sentenced to 2 months (max penalty was 6 months for what was a misdemeanor) and he served his time last April. We owe Ed BIG TIME for teaching us what we need to know in order to be truly free. Now I feel it is time to give back and we must help our fellow man learn how to be free as well. This is why I feel compelled to share this with you and anyone else that wants to learn to be free. Now why would you want to possibly end up incarcerated for a long, long time by following Schultz's lead? I have proven on my own that the system is a fraud and that Ed is indeed correct. I have not stepped foot into a courtroom and never filled out or signed any of the POP forms I was told I "had" to do by my ex's attorney. He told my ex he thought I was a genious and that I should have been an attorney...ha! Whenever I received forms in the mail, I just sent them back to the source with a letter attached stating I was not consenting to the authority of the courts and was not subject to the jurisdiction of any judge or court. By the way, I also included copies of all the relevant material I have compiled from Ed and I am sure they received all of my material eve. A Napa County court employee that happens to also be a close friend of mine said he had overheard my name being discussed on more than one occasion by NC staff attorneys. They did not know how to respond to my letters because they KNEW I was correct. By the way, I have not filed or paid ANY income taxes since 1996 and the IRS runs from me now! Any more questions? Thanks Ed! cheers, Doug H. My coment in Family forums on the letter; I am impressed. Very impressed, and what impresses me the most is this; I purposely deleted all the material I had previously downloaded from the WTP site. Why? Because every premise that the WTP works with is flawed, and I have to think that the reason it is flawed is because they are working with attorneys. I refuse to accept that the LAWYER Crier was acquited as an accident in his 'wilful failure to file' trial. That trial will end up causing more problems for people than anything else could possibly do. Why? You know why; once again the cry will go up; THERE IS NO LAW! And once again people will lose their homes or businesses, and many will go to jail. Things such as this do not happen by accident; there is generally a well organized plan of terror behind it. And I refuse to accept another thing; that attorneys such as Crier and his so- called defense team are unaware of the Social Security Enabling Act. And I refuse to accept another thing; that attorneys such as Crier and his so- called defense team are unaware of the nature of the tribunals they work in. What I do accept is what the Bible tells us about lawyers. And, the natures of men. Blessings to you all. Richard Oh, did I mention that I am impressed by this letter? ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ In Family Forums, I posted this; Citing Unpublished Opinions in Wisconsin State and Federal Tribunals. I have also posted this here. In this title, please note the use of the word tribunals. This shows you that the lawyers understand that they DO NOT work in a judicial system; it is a contract enforcement tribunal system. There were a couple of agreeable comments made, and I added the following; Yes, there are other reasons. Personally, I think that courts should not be allowed to even issue unpublished opinions. B---, just the fact that unpublished opinions exist is an admission of the fraud of the system. THEIR system; not ours. To the best of my knowledge, the last of the true judicial courts in America were the county courts, and these were closed out by the BAR associations, working in concert with the various state legistatures and the State Supreme Courts in the 1930s. If you want to understand, look up tribunal in Black's Law Dictionary, and pay close attention to the part about 'under Roman law.' What we are doing here in America is dealing with administrative contract enforcement tribunals, which exist only WITHIN the United States. BUT, this is not revealed to the public, therefore, the lie can only be sustained if those cases which begin to break the veil are disposed of. Please permit me to give you an example. The latest 'wilful failure to file income tax' case that was won by the defendent was the Crier case. Crier, of course, is an attorney, i.e., an Esquire. HE OWES THE TAX. He is a BAR card holder, and as such, he is required to have a Social Security number. As I posted, and as you all understand, the nexus for the Income Tax is a contract through Social Security. BUT, that can not be admitted by the judge in the tribunal, because it would begin to break down the shield behind which that judge and all other participants in the fraud hide. The judge could have simply explained to the 'advisory panel' (jury) that this case was simply a contract dispute, and if you find that the defendent does indeed have a contract which requires that he pay the Income Tax, then you must find him guilty. Of course, then he would have had to explain that the advisory panel was actually within an administrative contract enforcement proceeding, instead of a judicial trial, and we all know that ain't gonna happen!! So instead, 'they' have an out in their system; any case which violates 'public policy' or which violates the terms and conditions of the existing contracts that most Americans are ensnared in, well, they simply do not publish them. It is hard to conceive of any other choice 'they' have if they are to keep 'their' system operating, and the benefits that 'their' system bestows upon 'them' coming. This comes back to what I have said before; you can not beat 'them' in 'their' system; it is too well organized and established. And because every time we/you beat them in 'their' tribunals, 'they' simply do not publish the result, we/you are faced with an entirely new fight every time you enter into 'their' tribunals. You have to start over, from scratch, EVERY time. Especially since most Americans, by the time they reach this forum, are already in trouble (or they would not be looking for answers/help) and so deeply entrenched in contracts (anyone got a state issued marriage lic. on them?), that the chances of 'winning' such a fight are slim to none. And generally, slim is out of town. So we come back to my theme; the only solution is mass education, to break the hold that the Constitution holds over most so-called Christians, and the love affair that those same Christians have been having with the fruit of the Constitution, the United States government. In that regard, here is a link to the latest update (Sept. 12, 2007) of the paper I wrote titled; There is no Constitution; it is a carefully crafted illusion..... This is a PDF file that is ready to print, or, read. And, it includes page numbers, and when updated info: http://www.brainwashington.info/othersites...%20Part%201.pdf While you are there, try this; http://www.brainwashington.info/ Then, click on The Ultimate Jural Society Handbook and enjoy!
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