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Title: Who is liable for the Income Tax, and, why?
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URL Source: http://famguardian.org/Publications ... aradigm/TheGalileoParadigm.pdf
Published: Sep 18, 2007
Author: Adele Weiss
Post Date: 2007-09-18 12:45:35 by richard9151
Keywords: None
Views: 1478
Comments: 118

Societal Presumptions made by lenient minded Aemrican Nationals

Interesting statement, is it not? This; http://famguardian.org/Publications/GalileoParadigm/TheGalileoParadigm.pdf

is a PDF file that I would recommend that you download, print, and study until you 'get it.' And, you should turn first to Chapter 2, Application for SSN and what it means.

If, IF, you will simply read this info, you will never be confused again about what is going on the so-called Tax Protest movement. I guarentee it. And, you will never be swindled into paying for de-taxing material either! Why? Because, probably for the first time in your life, you will understand the basis of the Income Tax, the Social Security program, and, not least of all, socialism. But, that is your choice, to understand or not, so, please, make a wise one.

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I'm sure your feelings are more than justified. This fight is difficult and filled with treachery and over zealous "patriot" know-nothings that tell others how to do things they themselves haven't done. And there is frustration because human weaknesses betray us when we least expect it.

"The mighty are only mighty because we are on our knees. Let us rise!" --Camille Desmoulins

noone222  posted on  2007-09-25   14:56:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

his idea was for everyone, everywhere to turn on every electrical device we own at the same time. His goal was to blow out the grid and collapse the beast with the sudden surge.

Ha hahaha ... when I was a kid in High School we tried a similar project by flushing all of the toilets in the building all at once ... I even threw in a trench coat ... we failed too.

"The mighty are only mighty because we are on our knees. Let us rise!" --Camille Desmoulins

noone222  posted on  2007-09-25   15:00:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Pontius "Apu" Nahasapeemapetilon, IV.,

Apu

Hilarious :)

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-09-25   15:01:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

the trick is to try to stay OUT of THEIR courts to begin with..but we know they'll come and grab you out of your driveway and take you there whenever they want to...and, for pete's sake, don't resist lest you want a beatin' or a tasin'.

As I've said before, they succeed in bringing no more than 50 criminal tax trials to fruition each year, or, about one per state.

I'm guessing that they don't prosecute that many now.

The system operates of 90% bluff, and because Irwin Schiff stressed that point he was repeatedly struck by lightning again and again.

I believe that the IRS/DOJ will concentrate on prosecuting their own more and more, because they can still get a conviction when the "criminal" is a low level govt employee. They can be required to file returns as a condition of employment, and if the govt must prosecute someone then let them cannibalize their own.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-09-25   15:02:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I went directly to flushing cherry bombs in unoccupied stalls :)

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-09-25   15:03:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

No fear of death or the ramifications of our actions when we're able to enjoy the protective juvenile laws ! God bless youth !

"The mighty are only mighty because we are on our knees. Let us rise!" --Camille Desmoulins

noone222  posted on  2007-09-25   15:05:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I recall a story from years ago, told to me by a rather burnt out hippy. He despised the system so much his idea was for everyone, everywhere to turn on every electrical device we own at the same time. His goal was to blow out the grid and collapse the beast with the sudden surge.

As an electrician let me assure him that it wouldn't work.

In order to have the desired effect we'd have to short the grid, not overload it.

There are ample overcurrent protective devices in the system. Every household is fed by a step down transformer with its own fuse. And, each branch circuit is fuse protected, as is every transmission-to-distribution substation.

The worst it would accomplish would be rolling brown or blackouts, which is what happens now when the demand exceeds the online grid capacity.

If you read up on electrical reclosers you'll understand why tree limbs or unfortunate squirrels across the wires don't burn the wires off the poles.

After three automatic resets (faster than we can blink) if the animal or branch isn't burned crisp and no longer shorting the system, the recloser locks that branch circuit out, and it will remain off until a service tech responds and locates the short, determines that it's no longer a problem and manually resets the recloser.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-09-25   15:21:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Did I mention he was burnt out :)

So much for the practicality, on to the analogy.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-09-25   16:10:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Both Larry Becraft and Tommy Cryer

I've listened to both of them on short wave quite a bit. Very smart and well- informed men of courage and honor IMHO.

The secret of contentment is knowing how to enjoy what you have, and to be able to lose all desire for things beyond your reach. Lin Yutang

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." --- William Casey, Director CIA (Quote from internal staff meeting notes 1981)

intotheabyss  posted on  2007-09-25   16:25:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

i'm coming to the conclusion that a better idea might be for all of us to jump on the gravy train and attempt to crash the whole damn thing that way.

LOL! That makes more sense than going into their system to fight them! Actually, what you are saying in this sentance is not necessary, as 'their' system is not self-sustaining. It will collaspe on its own, which, of course, is why 'they' are preparing for martial law. 'They' have known for a long time what is coming, and, when it would arrive.

You will note/have noted that I have never suggested that anyone use anything I say in a system tribunal, correct? In fact, if you read the post that I did, There is no Constitution, I say directly in that post that what I have reasearched and written IS NOT INTENDED TO BE USED IN 'THEIR' COURTS.

I do not advocate that anyone do anything that will lead to a confrontation and being taken into 'their' system. If you are contracted into 'their' system, pay the tax. Simple as that. Once you decide that you do not wish to be a part of what they are, well, that is what is neccessary if you wish to be free.

I do not remember for sure, but I do believe that we are told in the Bible to pay the tax rather than fight over it; I do know that Jesus did just that: render unto Ceasar that which is Ceasars and unto God that which is Gods. Over all, that is pretty good advice, and it keeps one out of trouble.

he listened to our patriot friend's BS. That pretty well describes most of the info that is passed around about the income tax and other contractual obligations, and, the same people that are arguing about such things in court maintain their bank accounts and make their con-tributions regularly to the SS fund.

I have never done that, Christine; what I advocate is being separate. And by experience, I have learned that this takes about ten years before you begin to see the light (at the end of the tunnel -- BUT, if you are not careful, that light will be a headlamp on an approaching train!).

I do warn you, Christine, that once you have started down this path, there is no turning back. You have three choices; 1. Complete the process and cleanse yourself. 2. End up busted by the system, and, probably, in jail. 3. Knuckle under and pay forever, knowing full well that what you do is wrong.

You have already started down the path, so this is just to let you know what you face; I have seen it in many others, including myself. And yes, a good part of the problems that I went through was because I listened to idiots who had no clue as to what they were talking about. And the same BS that they were talking about back in the 80s is the same BS being repeated today, so the more things change, the more they remain the same.

It all comes down to contracts, christine. Period. And as long as you have them, and as long as you have the material assets that you gained while you were in 'their' system, they will not leave you alone, as they consider that the material assets you possess to be 'theirs', which is why 'they' tax it.

When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest.

richard9151  posted on  2007-09-25   16:39:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I think you need this one.....

The secret of contentment is knowing how to enjoy what you have, and to be able to lose all desire for things beyond your reach. Lin Yutang

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." --- William Casey, Director CIA (Quote from internal staff meeting notes 1981)

intotheabyss  posted on  2007-09-25   16:44:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I think you're dead right. The ideal/normal economic/political system has been totaly destroyed. What kind of system has our country degraded to? It really isn't a free-market. It really isn't capitalism.

It has been so destroyed, at this time, we couldn't go back to being a true republic with a true free-market. If the Federal budget was slashed say, 70% in one year, the trickle down effect would be a 10.0 earthquake.

States, counties and cities would have to raise taxes to fund the programs that would be defunded, or there would be millions more unemployed.

The Federal government wouldn't lower taxes because of the surplus of say 1.7 trillion because it would have to pay the 9 trillion debt that it owes.

Some would say individuals would pick up the slack and create jobs to fill the unemployed. What jobs? They have been mostly all moved offshore. What demand, if millions are unemployed, how will they pay to purchase goods and services created?

Under ideal and normal circumstances it would work, but this country has been so destroyed and manipulated, I don't see the light at the end of the tunnel.

I have a few friends in the area, and we are all in agreement, we are so fucked, let the system blow up and the cards fall where they may.

Mark

If America is destroyed, it may be by Americans who salute the flag, sing the national anthem, march in patriotic parades, cheer Fourth of July speakers - normally good Americans who fail to comprehend what is required to keep our country strong and free - Americans who have been lulled into a false security (April 1968).---Ezra Taft Benson, US Secretary of Agriculture 1953-1961 under Eisenhower

Kamala  posted on  2007-09-25   16:46:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Sometimes it's not so much what we say to others that infuriates them, it's how we say it. The name calling and insults serve no constructive purpose. Telling someone that they will have to hit the bottom before they can lift themself out of the mire is another hard thing to consider, while I do think it's true.

You are correct. I am very blunt, but, I quit sugar coating things more than 10 years ago. I found out that it really made no difference, EXCEPT, when I quit sugar coating the message, the message stayed with them till they reached the point where they could use the info. Or, needed the info.

When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest.

richard9151  posted on  2007-09-25   17:07:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

LONG LIVE SOCIAL SECURITY!

(the guy who's never mistaken said it ain't going away)

You are correct; it is not going away. The only way you can kill Social Security is if you kill the New World Order, because Social Security is the web that creates the New World Order, and, gives it authority over all of the people within all of the nations that have contracted into 'their' system.

And, while you are doing that, you will need to kill the thousands upon tens of thousands upon 100s of thousands of people who have paid into the system and will fight you tooth and nail to keep it going.

Of course, perhaps I AM mistaken, and you have god like powers that can accomplish this. Let's see; in the link I put up, there were about 115 nations shown that have their SS info on line, so just in those 115 nations, I would suspect that there are between 800,000,000 - 1,000,000,000 people in Social Security. Perhaps much more. So I would suspect you are a bit outnumbered if you intend to kill off Social Security.

When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest.

richard9151  posted on  2007-09-25   17:28:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The system will have to collapse, the weak will perish and those who survive will have a 50-50 chance of living in a free system, or another despotic tyranny just like the old one.

Yes. Correct. You have hit the nail on the head, finally. read Revelations in the Bible.

If the solution is for Americans to study and learn the nature of contracts, then the solution may as well be, "The American people need to study and become fluent in Latin!"

No, the solution is not for all Americans to do this; only those who do so will survive, because the others will still be wedded to 'the system' and will go down with the system.

And if you do not understand this, I suggest that you begin your studies now.

When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest.

richard9151  posted on  2007-09-25   17:34:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The only way you can kill Social Security is if you kill the New World Order, because Social Security is the web that creates the New World Order, and, gives it authority over all of the people within all of the nations that have contracted into 'their' system.

So you’d suggest that my Aunt Tilly, who is fast approaching 65 and worked her entire life, refuse her social security check when she’s entitled?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-09-25   17:47:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

And if you do not understand this, I suggest that you begin your studies now.

But Richard…ZAP….while we’re researching…ZAP….and stud..ZAP..ing……the mofo’s are….ZAP…..tasering our….ZAP…..asses…..isn’t it…ZAP….time to fight…..ZAP…?????

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-09-25   17:53:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

LOL

christine  posted on  2007-09-25   18:40:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The name calling and insults serve no constructive purpose.

Join the Ron Paul Revolution

Lod  posted on  2007-09-25   19:49:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

His goal was to blow out the grid and collapse the beast with the sudden surge.

A thought, but a burnt out thought.

It'll take much more than this.

Join the Ron Paul Revolution

Lod  posted on  2007-09-25   19:58:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The system operates of 90% bluff

I think its 90% fear, just hearing the initials IRS, gets me to sit up straight.

exdem2000  posted on  2007-09-25   20:05:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Of course. I suppose I look at his idea differently than most. His LSD, marijuana spiked idea was simple; can a lot of people do a simple, non threatening thing, together, to blow the system to hell? That answer should be where our energy goes and not into digging deep into the murky world of the NWO, illuminati, etc. There is no end to that study and time is our enemy.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-09-25   20:05:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Of course. I suppose I look at his idea differently than most. His LSD, marijuana spiked idea was simple; can a lot of people do a simple, non threatening thing, together, to blow the system to hell? That answer should be where our energy goes

Of course. I suppose I look at his idea differently than most. His LSD, marijuana spiked idea was simple; can a lot of people do a simple, non threatening thing, together, to blow the system to hell?

That answer should be where our MONEY goes ...

"The mighty are only mighty because we are on our knees. Let us rise!" --Camille Desmoulins

noone222  posted on  2007-09-25   20:16:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

So you’d suggest that my Aunt Tilly, who is fast approaching 65 and worked her entire life, refuse her social security check when she’s entitled?

Not at all, I'd suggest you allow her to collect her SS until the day she dies, provided the old girl is willing to sign an agreement that allows you to deep freeze her wrinkly corpse, and continue to collect her SS Checks as agent, by not reporting her death.

Next, you do the same agreement with your favorite heir, and voila, generational post traumatic income disorder is born.

Be sure to have an automated SS account initiated so as to avoid having to shave and dress up like Tilly to cash the checks.

"The mighty are only mighty because we are on our knees. Let us rise!" --Camille Desmoulins

noone222  posted on  2007-09-25   20:57:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Not at all, I'd suggest you allow her to collect her SS until the day she dies, provided the old girl is willing to sign an agreement that allows you to deep freeze her wrinkly corpse, and continue to collect her SS Checks as agent, by not reporting her death.

Now you're talking. And if by chance some social security bureaucrat wanted to actually see Aunt Tilly, visit your local nursing home and offer to take the most brain dead, mouth breather to the zoo for the day. Pin a button on the old gal that says “Aunt Tilly”, present her accordingly and demand to be reimbursed for carfare :)

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-09-25   21:03:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

time to fight…..

I have been Jethro... for a long time and much more effectively than you. And, I have reached thousands and thousands more people than you ever will.

Oh, and thanks for the suggestion; I may need to ask for a new ID, so if you see someone posting in 4um called -you-know-what, do not be surprised if he sounds an awful lot like me........

When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest.

richard9151  posted on  2007-09-25   21:28:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The name calling and insults serve no constructive purpose.

Oh, I dunno... blows off my steam.......

By the way, here is a quote from a speach that Bush gave some time ago about Social Security. See if it does not match with what I have been saying;

You know, one thing about Social Security -- sorry to blow on here, but now that you asked -- a lot of people in America think there is a trust. Your money goes in, the government holds it, and then the government gives your money back when you retire. That's just not the way it works. And it's important for the American citizens to understand it's a pay-as-you-go system. And right now, we're paying for a lot of programs other than Social Security with the payroll tax coming in, thereby leaving a pile of IOUs.

There ain't no trust; there ain't never been no trust; and Social Security is simply an income tax under a different name, and that is exactly what is said in the Social Security Enabling Act I have posted and posted and posted.

You can go here for the full transcript of the speech; http://www.cnn.com/2005/ALLPOLITICS/03/16/transcript.bush/index.html

When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest.

richard9151  posted on  2007-09-25   21:37:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Glad to see you can laugh some richard. And people seem to hate our roust abouts more than we do.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-09-25   21:51:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

And people seem to hate our roust abouts more than we do.

Yeah... I have noticed that.... go figure.....

When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest.

richard9151  posted on  2007-09-25   22:27:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

And people seem to hate our roust abouts more than we do.

Yeah... I have noticed that.... go figure.....

Me three !

"The mighty are only mighty because we are on our knees. Let us rise!" --Camille Desmoulins

noone222  posted on  2007-09-25   22:30:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

So you’d suggest that my Aunt Tilly, who is fast approaching 65 and worked her entire life, refuse her social security check when she’s entitled?

Why would I suggest that?! I do not even suggest that you quit, or, for that matter, that anyone else should quit.

What I do expect is that you, AND EVERYONE ELSE, understand what you did/are doing and how you/we got into this mess in the first place.

I do not give legal advice, and never suggest that people follow in my footsteps, unless they are called to do so. I have chosen a hard road, but it is right for me.

But overall, just the simple step of understanding the contractual nature of Social Security, if people would simply think it through, would do away with all of the non-sense about the so-called tax protesters.

After all, if you want the benefit, pay the tax. And shut up about it.

When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest.

richard9151  posted on  2007-09-25   22:33:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

If you want the benefit, pay the tax and shut up about it.

Unbelievable, it only took 109 posts to arrive here ... without a single fatality.

"The mighty are only mighty because we are on our knees. Let us rise!" --Camille Desmoulins

noone222  posted on  2007-09-25   23:02:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

if you want the benefit, pay the tax. And shut up about it.

I'll give my kids your advice. I'm sure their Fortune 50 companies will be more than happy to stop yanking their FICA "contribution" from their checks.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-09-25   23:27:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Unbelievable, it only took 109 posts to arrive here ... without a single fatality.

LOL..and even some amicable exchanges!

christine  posted on  2007-09-25   23:31:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The name calling and insults serve no constructive purpose.

Would you move and be my neighbor? I'll mow your lawn.

(You don't have a pit bull with loose bowls, do you? If so forget it)

"Satan / Cheney in "08"

tom007  posted on  2007-09-25   23:41:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The ONLY remedy to deal entirely with this rogue government WITHOUT shooting them would require nearly 100% conformity among ALL of "We The People" - and I don't see that happening.

I have to disagree, it will take a much smaller percentage of the population to make a drastic impact. I figure that %25 of the population actively participating in starving the "powers that be" will make one hell of a difference.

It goes beyond this to other contracts which we voluntarily enter into such as Driver's licenses. Each and every contract with the state that you volunteer into puts "money in their pocket". Look at it as giving $5 to a drug addict - you are merely enabling them to stay high a little longer. If you don't feed the baby it will starve and die.

I agree that it goes much further. Shut down all of your bank accounts, and quit paying interest and get the hell out of any kind of stocks, is a fine step in the right direction. This will foster a drop in consumer confidence, which will wake more people up.

But there is also a personal sacrifice involved as well. When you give up your drivers license there is a fine chance that you will be ticketed. After you receive a ticket you may not have the legal capability to fight it well enough to win, or the court may ignore a lawful and perfectly sound argument and find you guilty anyway. In either of these events the court will assign you a fine to pay. This is where personal commitment comes in. Instead of paying the fine, or worse yet, paying to take one of their idiotic little "driver safety" courses to get your but out of the sling, you need to refuse to pay and give your time instead.

The court has to allow you to serve community service in lieu of paying the fine. This action does three things (other than consume your time) 1) you have denied them the funds that they require to keep the whole harassment scheme going 2) you have told the local officers that there is no point in giving you more BS tickets because it will not pay off 3)you can lower the local budget by taking care of the stupid stuff that your local community would have over paid some out fit to do.

Granted, it is a pain in the ass, I know, I am finally completing over 100 hours of community service for two tickets that I received last spring. Two seatbelt violations and no insurance if I remember right.

I had to have a bit of fun with them through it all though, I made them put up my horse while I was working because "I did not want to incur any more violations while commuting to my community service". I know not everyone can ride their horse in to make this an extra special pain for the judge and crew, but they do have to allow you to do community service in your spare time and allow you enough time complete it without interfering with your livelihood.

"If ignorance is bliss, why aren't more people happy?"

ladybug  posted on  2007-09-26   2:03:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Me three !

OK... but I can't joust with someone who thinks like I do! So, we'll gang up on JT; I'll stand on his right foot -- you stand on his left foot -- and when he starts limping, maybe he will shut up for a while!

When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest.

richard9151  posted on  2007-09-26   11:16:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

But overall, just the simple step of understanding the contractual nature of Social Security, if people would simply think it through, would do away with all of the non-sense about the so-called tax protesters.

You are not paying attention, Jethro, as is usual.

if you want the benefit, pay the tax. And shut up about it.

Working for a CORPORATION is a BENEFIT!!!

And if you want the benefit, pay the tax AND SHUT UP ABOUT IT!!

When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest.

richard9151  posted on  2007-09-26   11:19:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I agree that it goes much further. Shut down all of your bank accounts, and quit paying interest and get the hell out of any kind of stocks, is a fine step in the right direction. This will foster a drop in consumer confidence, which will wake more people up.

Absolutely. This is the first step in killing the beast; QUIT PLAYING IN THEIR GAME BY THEIR RULES.

I have had no bank accounts for more than 15 years, and I have no Federal Reserve debt, including credit cards, which I maxed out and cut up years and years ago..... and no, I never paid them off! Basically, I told the credit card companies to go fish! (What this means is that I put 'free' money into the system - credit which was not returned and thus destroyed.)

The rest of your post is also correct. We can continue to complain about what is going on, or, we can do something about it, which means that many, many more Americans need to start civil disobediance. Exactly as you say. Which begins to wake up more people as more and more see what is going on.

Beats the hell out of picking up a gun and playing Baghdad!

When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest.

richard9151  posted on  2007-09-26   11:26:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Beats the hell out of picking up a gun and playing Baghdad!

I agree Richard, but I fear that we will not be able to muster a mere %25 of the population to give up their comforts to stand up for what they believe in.

I see so many people who wish to be "cyber patriots" may be attend a rally or two and plaster some bumper sticker on their car, but that is as far as they are willing to go.

When it comes right down to giving up time and/or personal comforts, these cyber patriots will take the easy way out every time. So few are willing to live for what they believe in, it is just a fun topic of conversation. Sad.

Unless more people do become willing to live what they believe, and soon, an armed revolution will be necessary to turn this mess around. If that day comes, I will proudly stand and fight. Until then I will do all I can to change this without having to turn to the last resort - war.

Many patriots think that a revolution will be a time of glory, but personally, I can live without glory, I only want freedom.

"If ignorance is bliss, why aren't more people happy?"

ladybug  posted on  2007-09-26   19:41:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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