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Title: Who is liable for the Income Tax, and, why?
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URL Source: http://famguardian.org/Publications ... aradigm/TheGalileoParadigm.pdf
Published: Sep 18, 2007
Author: Adele Weiss
Post Date: 2007-09-18 12:45:35 by richard9151
Keywords: None
Views: 1239
Comments: 118

Societal Presumptions made by lenient minded Aemrican Nationals

Interesting statement, is it not? This; http://famguardian.org/Publications/GalileoParadigm/TheGalileoParadigm.pdf

is a PDF file that I would recommend that you download, print, and study until you 'get it.' And, you should turn first to Chapter 2, Application for SSN and what it means.

If, IF, you will simply read this info, you will never be confused again about what is going on the so-called Tax Protest movement. I guarentee it. And, you will never be swindled into paying for de-taxing material either! Why? Because, probably for the first time in your life, you will understand the basis of the Income Tax, the Social Security program, and, not least of all, socialism. But, that is your choice, to understand or not, so, please, make a wise one.

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#7. To: richard9151 (#0)

you will understand the basis of the Income Tax, the Social Security program

They are as intertwined as a man and his wife in the "throes of passion".

The SS program is voluntary. The IT is mandatory for those that "volunteer" for the SS program. Simple as that. Those that DON'T have a SS# are defined in the IR Code (though not quite so bluntly) as NON TAXPAYERS. NOT "tax protesters", "tax evaders", or any of a plethora of other things - but as a LEGAL Non-Taxpayer. No hassles, just a totally different "class" or "status".

Gee, freedom is wonderful. We're perfectly free to allow our ignorance to bind us in a contract which will forever more cause us misery and a reason to complain...

innieway  posted on  2007-09-24   10:41:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

The problem is this fellas.

The banksters and the DOJ/federal judiciary refuses to acknowledge the right to contract our services to any corporation without walking through the looking glass of IRS enclave jurisdiction.

As far as they're concerned there is no legal way to sell my services to a corporation unless I'm an "employee" or a contractor with an ID # that is used to 1099 me at the end of the year.

So, if the govt has in effect outlawed the common law right to work without their jurisdiction, and all of the monies disbursed by a corporation are govt revenues and subject to the tax, then, the coercive nature of this fraud renders any innocent claim that the tax is "a voluntary contract" disingenuous.

According to the IRS a "corporation" can't stop and buy a glass of lemonade or a newspaper with corporate money if the lemonade or news vendor is a bootlegger and has no license to sell to a corporation.

I tried to paint a tax lawyer into a corner by asking her if my kids' lemonade stand was subject to the income tax. She said it was.

In other words any transaction between any two parties of any age or alleged status within the continental US is a taxable event and the IRS has the power to come in, toss the place, line people up and handcuff them while they use a subpoena to determine the amount of the deficiency.

And, nowhere in any IRS, DOJ or federal district, appeals or supreme court literature or decisions will you find your assertion that SS is voluntary and one may go about their life with no involvement in it.

The fact that one may extrapolate that position after hundreds of hours of study does not constitute black letter law that then relieves the govt of any responsibility for the fraud they've perpetrated against the people.

And, the fact that most judges would not allow either of you to assert that position to your own juries in criminal trials is proof enough that your self assuredness on the subject is reckless, and is ample proof that neither of you have ever tried to beat the rap which you seem to think is just a walk in the park.

The whole IRS Code was written to obfuscate the voluntary nature of the income tax (which includes social security in subtitle C) and no judge will allow a defendant to lead a jury through the necessary steps to illuminate that fact.

And when lawyers like Larry Becraft and that feller in Louisiana do win, they do so because they or their clients asked good faith questions which the IRS never answered, not because they were allowed to detail the fraudulent scheme in open court.

Time and time again when jurors ask to see the law they receive replies from judges that read "I have given you the law".

When have you ever heard of a jury deliberating a social security or income tax case while referring to Title 26 in the jury room?

They are not allowed to see the code and they would not be allowed to deliberate about your "theory of operation" regarding the "voluntary" nature of social security. Nor would either of you be permitted to hand the jurors an outline that details the progression of steps used to reach that conclusion.

So, what good is a theory of law if you are never going to be allowed to offer it in evidence?

Usually when I ask these questions I'm told how stoopid I am. This is because armchair experts don't like to be told that their justice only exists in a parallel universe that no jury will ever see....

Now, you may preach it all you like, but the courtroom is where the rubber meets the road and it will not do you a bit of good there.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-09-24   17:40:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

And, nowhere in any IRS, DOJ or federal district, appeals or supreme court literature or decisions will you find your assertion that SS is voluntary and one may go about their life with no involvement in it.

I always love someone who comments without reading the material. Tickles me pink, one might say.

As a matter of fact, if you know where to look, there are cases that state exactly what you say is never stated, and no, since you have no interest in reading the material, I am not going to go and look it up for you. If you are interested, log into Family Forums and enjoy. They have a wealth of on-point info that covers about all contingencies.

As to the other part, no, you can not deal with corporations and be free. Just a fact of life. On the other hand, I know, personally, dozens of people who exist quite well, thank you, including myself, without any Social Security number. And have for many years. The problem is that people will not make a decision to be free, so they can not be.

Since the juries that you mention are actually, in any tribunal 'within the U.S.', an advisery panel and ARE NOT A JURY, why would they be allowed to debate the law when all they are doing is advising the judge on the matters before the tribunal, which is, in all cases, contracts? Which, by the way, is all that the tribunal has the authority to address.

This comes down, in the final analysis, to understanding the difference between 'rights' and 'civil' rights, which are as different as day and night. And if you do not understand that difference, then we probably should not be having this conversation.

richard9151  posted on  2007-09-24   18:33:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I know, personally, dozens of people who exist quite well, thank you, including myself, without any Social Security number

Well duh.....you claim to live in Mexico......

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-09-24   19:57:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Well duh.....you claim to live in Mexico......

I don't.

noone222  posted on  2007-09-24   19:59:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

And when they system wants to cage you they will. No crime need be violated; no defense accepted.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-09-24   20:02:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

And when they system wants to cage you they will. No crime need be violated; no defense accepted.

Fuck the system, fuck Bush, and fuck anyone that thinks I have to support murderers and thieves or retired govt. toadies.

noone222  posted on  2007-09-24   20:06:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Fuck the system, fuck Bush, and fuck anyone that thinks I have to support murderers and thieves or retired govt. toadies.

Yippee!!!! Must be a brother of mine speaking!!! I vote that we appoint noone official spokesman for 4um!!!

richard9151  posted on  2007-09-24   22:13:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I'd say we see things quite similarly.

noone222  posted on  2007-09-24   22:18:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I'd say we see things quite similarly.

Yep, I would say so. You, me, innieway, and a couple of others. Makes me think that there is hope for America, not a lot, but some, and screw the United States.

richard9151  posted on  2007-09-24   23:00:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

and a couple of others.

If a normal person paid a bit of attention to your wacky remedies they’d find themselves locked away in a padded cell. Go peddle your patriot dribble elsewhere. Most folks here know better.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-09-24   23:12:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

If a normal person paid a bit of attention to your wacky remedies they’d find themselves locked away in a padded cell. Go peddle your patriot dribble elsewhere. Most folks here know better.

Yep - most folks KNOW better, here and everywhere else too. That's why "most folks" take a different route - they either just lick the boots of their masters and comply, or they take the route Ed and Elaine Brown took, or Irwin Schiff's, or countless others. UH, just how has this second route worked out for all these folks???

Most folks DO have a mindset much like your's.
If they were to contract some horrific disease, and the doctor told them "This is nearly always fatal. We DO have a treatment, and it has been successful 3% of the time, so there IS a chance". So the person does a little research and finds 5 people that have all recovered from the same disease - but they used some quackery, off-the-wall remedy - they took 1 lb of 2-day old cow manure and mixed it with a quart of zucchini juice, then stood on their heads for 15 minutes while drinking the vile crap down with a straw.
So they go back to the doctor and tell him of the "remedy" they found, and the doctor says "There's no BASIS IN SCIENCE behind that! It's CRAZY! Pure NONSENSE!"
Like I said, MOST folks mindset will be to go with the "doctor's treatments"; and 97% of them will die...

Let me ask you something.
Do you know everything there is to know? (I don't, and I bet you'd answer NO too)
Well, do you know half of everything there is to know? (Maybe possibly you can answer YES to this one - I don't think I could, buy maybe YOU can)
Now is it POSSIBLE, just POSSIBLE that what Richard, myself, and Noone (who are all saying the same thing) MIGHT be telling you something which is contained in the HALF YOU DON'T KNOW???

innieway  posted on  2007-09-25   9:26:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Now is it POSSIBLE, just POSSIBLE that what Richard, myself, and Noone (who are all saying the same thing) MIGHT be telling you something which is contained in the HALF YOU DON'T KNOW???

Please share with me a few remedies you and your fellow comrades recommend for this rogue government we live under, keeping in mind Richard does not believe the bastards should be shot. Exclude bible references if possible, as I don't believe in fables.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-09-25   9:32:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Please share with me a few remedies you and your fellow comrades recommend for this rogue government we live under, keeping in mind Richard does not believe the bastards should be shot.

The ONLY remedy to deal entirely with this rogue government WITHOUT shooting them would require nearly 100% conformity among ALL of "We The People" - and I don't see that happening.

BUT, there IS a small revolution already taking place in this country. It isn't being fought with guns. It isn't something glamorous. And it is slow. However, it may someday succeed. It involves:
1) Relearning what it is to be free, and how "We The People" slowly and voluntarily gave up our freedom. A major first step is to quit feeding at the government trough. (If you haven't read the Wild Pigs Of The Okefenokee I posted yesterday, you should. A very easy read) I outlined in post #41 of this thread how the SS lures us into the tax fraud. It goes beyond this to other contracts which we voluntarily enter into such as Driver's licenses. Each and every contract with the state that you volunteer into puts "money in their pocket". Look at it as giving $5 to a drug addict - you are merely enabling them to stay high a little longer. If you don't feed the baby it will starve and die. We have to quit "feeding" this mess by contracting away our RIGHTS in favor of their PRIVILEGES. Something Richard, Noone, and myself all have in common is a total lack of any licenses (contracts with the state).
2) Take away the power of some of the biggest "corporate entities" or "industries". For example the health care industry and Big Pharma. They exude a great amount of "pull" on the legislature of this country, and all the while produce nothing - except for more illness, misery, and death. EVERY drug they make has "side effects" (many of which are much more serious than the "ailment" which it was designed to TREAT). We must learn to manage our own health, and NOT need the services of doctors and Big Pharma (again starving them out). This is done mainly by our food choices, and I'm not just talking about the "fast food" stuff. Hell, there's not more than a tiny handful of things that come out of the grocery store that's fit for human consumption. And some things like pork, shrimp, and lobster aren't fit for human consumption no matter where you get it. Look at the American diet, chock full of sugar, MSG, Aspartame, fat, yeast, Genetically Modified grains, vegetables and fruits which have been sprayed with toxic chemicals to control pests, things which have been grown in soil which was chemically fertilized, and various industrial products such as store-bought milk (as opposed to RAW, unpasteurized milk). No wonder we're all sick. Something Richard, Noone, and myself all have in common - we don't drink sodas and all the other crap, eat pork or lobster, sugar and "artificial sweeteners" etc. We have also not been to see a doctor in collectively something like 50 years.
3) Education. But NOT an "education" like what is taught in our public schools and colleges. An education which can only be received from a prudent study of everyday life and it's challenges. For example, myself and Noone both are very active in trying to educate the ones around us about the Federal Reserve scam, and advocate (and use) silver as our preferred medium of currency. We're also strong advocates of barter. Something Richard, Noone and myself all do is read avidly. TV sets don't see 10 hours of use per year. The things we read MOST (aside from Scripture, which you don't care to hear about) are LAW, health, economics - the things we most often comment on in this forum...

It goes even beyond what I have outlined here, but I simply don't have time to detail it all. Suffice it to say that it involves common sense.

But like I said, most folks aren't going to care. Everyone will readily admit that we need change in our "rogue" government, but they fail to realize that change begins on a personal level. To quote Richard "How can you change something as big as government if you can't first change yourself?

Exclude bible references if possible, as I don't believe in fables.

I hope this met your criteria. If you choose to believe Scripture is a "fable", you certainly have that right, and I would certainly be willing to fight for you to be able to keep that right. Doesn't mean I agree with you, just that you have that right.
Personally, I find it very difficult (downright impossible in fact) to call any writings which are over 2000 years old that contain prophecies which have played out in history ever since - and continue to do so to this very day right in front of our very eyes - a "fable".
That is the one other thing Richard, Noone and myself all have in common - we have the understanding that the Creator of the Universe is INFINITELY more wise and powerful than even (gasp) the Almighty Government of America (or any other for that matter); and, have committed to HIM. We strive to keep HIS laws, and in "return" (I believe - and in fact He stated in Scripture) that He "has our back". Could this be why we drive around freely without driver's licenses, do business without SS#s, not pay taxes, are not in jail, AND are all healthy and have no need for doctor visits??? Something to ponder on...

BTW, The Creator (or God if you will - but don't get confused, there are more Gods than I can count, and they are all very real. The ONE I am speaking of is NOT the same one the "pulpit parrots" and "religions" talk about) is a HUGE part of the "revolution" of which I speak. This in itself will exclude a great many (unfortunately) like yourself. JT v. Government is a mismatch - JT with The Creator on his side v. Government may not be - or in fact MAY be a mismatch with JT being on top! (Just a bit more "food for thought".)

innieway  posted on  2007-09-25   11:15:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Something Richard, Noone, and myself all have in common is a total lack of any licenses (contracts with the state).

and haven't you both had problems recently because of this? iow, you're fine as long as they choose to leave you alone, but any time they want, they'll come get you. your not having a # or a contract with them won't protect you. i even know of a man w/o the # (or driver license) whose RELIGIOUS beliefs won't allow it and he spends more time in jail than out. he's in their system and they're not going to let him out. they're even going after the mennonites and the amish. no one is immune from the tyrannical power of the state once it chooses to target you. that's why, again, there is only one solution. they need to start disappearing.

christine  posted on  2007-09-25   12:12:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

and haven't you both had problems recently because of this? iow, you're fine as long as they choose to leave you alone, but any time they want, they'll come get you. your not having a # or a contract with them won't protect you.

they're even going after the mennonites and the amish.

I would mostly agree with this statement and add that it is a really frustrating position that Americans in general are in. Being told how free we are when it's not true. Maybe it's our upbringing or indoctrination that requires of us that we must first peacefully resist errant law. Then, when we feel the oppression has reached an intolerable condition we are justified in forcefully resisting as we have noticed them. We may lose the battle of force, and they can and will kill some of us ... but they can't kill the idea. The only reason they feel comfortable in forcing compliance is not because of the resistance of a few, but directly related to the compliance of the ill-informed masses.

Not one case of autism among the amish ... could be related to non-compliance with vaccine policies.

noone222  posted on  2007-09-25   12:36:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#64. To: noone222 (#61)

The only reason they feel comfortable in forcing compliance is not because of the resistance of a few, but directly related to the compliance of the ill-informed masses.

The key to the distruction of America.

richard9151  posted on  2007-09-25 13:32:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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