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Title: The meaning of that Kerry fracas In Florida
Source: Online Journal
URL Source: http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_2434.shtml
Published: Sep 19, 2007
Author: Paul Craig Roberts
Post Date: 2007-09-19 09:54:10 by Eoghan
Keywords: None
Views: 188
Comments: 12

Naïve Americans who think they live in a free society should watch this video filmed by students at a John Kerry speech September 17, Constitution Day, at the University of Florida in Gainesville.

At the conclusion of Kerry's speech, Andrew Meyer, a 21-year old journalism student was selected by Senator Kerry to ask a question. Meyer held up a copy of BBC investigative reporter Greg Palast's book, Armed Madhouse, and asked if Kerry was aware that Palast's investigations determined that Kerry had actually won the election. Why, Meyer asked, had Kerry conceded the election so quickly when there were so many obvious examples of vote fraud? Why, Meyer, went on to ask, was Kerry refusing to consider Bush's impeachment when Bush was about to initiate another act of military aggression, this time against Iran?

At this point the public's protectors -- the police -- decided that Meyer had said too much. They grabbed Meyer and began dragging him off. Meyer said repeatedly, "I have done nothing wrong," which under our laws he had not. He threatened no one and assaulted no one.

But the police decided that Meyer, an American citizen, had no right to free speech and no constitutional protection. They threw him to the floor and Tasered him right in front of Senator Kerry and the large student audience, who captured on video the unquestionable act of police brutality. Meyer was carted off and jailed on a phony charge of "disrupting a public event."

The question we should all ask is why did a United States senator just stand there while Gestapo goons violated the constitutional rights of a student participating in a public event, brutalized him in full view of everyone, and then took him off to jail on phony charges?

Kerry's meekness not only in the face of electoral fraud, not only in the face of Bush's wars that are crimes under the Nuremberg standard, but also in the face of police goons trampling the constitutional rights of American citizens makes it completely clear that he was not fit to be president, and he is not fit to be a US senator.

Usually when police violate constitutional rights and commit acts of police brutality they do it when they believe no one is watching, not in front of a large audience. Clearly, the police have become more audacious in their abuse of rights and citizens. What explains the new fearlessness of police to violate rights and brutalize citizens without cause?

The answer is that police, most of whom have authoritarian personalities, have seen that constitutional rights are no longer protected. President Bush does not protect our constitutional rights. Neither does Vice President Cheney, nor the attorney general, nor the US Congress. Just as Kerry allowed Meyer's rights to be Tasered out of him, Congress has enabled Bush to strip people, including American citizens, of constitutional protection and incarcerate them without presenting evidence.

How long before Kerry himself or some other senator will be dragged from his podium and Tasered?

The Bush Republicans with complicit Democrats have essentially brought government accountability to an end in the US. The US government has 80,000 people, including ordinary American citizens, on its "no-fly list." No one knows why they are on the list, and no one on the list can find out how to get off it. An unaccountable act by the Bush administration put them there.

Airport Security harasses and abuses people who do not fit any known definition of terrorist. Nalini Ghuman, a British-born citizen and music professor at Mills College in California was met on her return from a trip to England by armed guards at the airplane door and escorted away. A Gestapo goon squad tore up her US visa, defaced her British passport, body searched her, and told her she could leave immediately for England or be sent to a detention center.

Professor Ghuman, an Oxford University graduate with a Ph.D. from the University of California at Berkeley, says she feels like the character in Kafka's book, The Trial. "I don't know why it's happened, what I'm accused of. There's no opportunity to defend myself. One is just completely powerless." Over one year later there is still no answer. [Music Scholar Barred From U.S., but No One Will Tell Her Why, By Nina Bernstein, New York Times, September 17, 2007]

The Bush Republicans and their Democratic toadies have, in the name of "security," made all of us powerless. While Senator John Kerry and his Democratic colleagues stand silently, the Bush administration has stolen our country from us and turned us into subjects.

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#1. To: Eoghan (#0)

What explains the new fearlessness of police to violate rights and brutalize citizens without cause?

Let the Tasers glow like the stars in the evening sky. The more out of control cops become, the sooner the sheeple will begin using them for target practice.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-09-19   10:18:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Eoghan (#0)

The answer is that police, most of whom have authoritarian personalities, have seen that constitutional rights are no longer protected. President Bush does not protect our constitutional rights. Neither does Vice President Cheney, nor the attorney general, nor the US Congress. Just as Kerry allowed Meyer's rights to be Tasered out of him, Congress has enabled Bush to strip people, including American citizens, of constitutional protection and incarcerate them without presenting evidence.

How long before Kerry himself or some other senator will be dragged from his podium and Tasered?

The Bush Republicans with complicit Democrats have essentially brought government accountability to an end in the US. The US government has 80,000 people, including ordinary American citizens, on its "no-fly list." No one knows why they are on the list, and no one on the list can find out how to get off it. An unaccountable act by the Bush administration put them there.

"The constitution is just a goddamned piece of paper"

advocation of torture, suspension of habeas corpus...on and on.

excellent article!

christine  posted on  2007-09-19   10:30:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Eoghan (#0)

Usually when police violate constitutional rights and commit acts of police brutality they do it when they believe no one is watching, not in front of a large audience. Clearly, the police have become more audacious in their abuse of rights and citizens. What explains the new fearlessness of police to violate rights and brutalize citizens without cause?

The answer is that police, most of whom have authoritarian personalities, have seen that constitutional rights are no longer protected.

bump

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robin  posted on  2007-09-19   10:35:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Eoghan (#0)

Join the Ron Paul Revolution

Lod  posted on  2007-09-19   10:35:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Eoghan (#0)

On this, I disagree.

Another thread mentioned that Kerry stated that he wanted to answer the questions. If so, there's really not much more even a senator could do. He can't interfere with what the police are doing any more than anyone else could. Legislators are not, by separation of power design, able to interfere with (so-called) law enforcement. US senators, are also outside of state and local law enforcement jurisdiction.

I think this kid has a damage case vs the police gang that assaulted him. Even if he should be found wrong for not simply cooperating with the arrest, his rights were nonetheless violated prior to him being assaulted.

What Kerry should do is issue a statement on the incident. Kerry, as a Republicrat, may easily be unfit for public office as most high ranking politicians are, but not because of this.

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Pinguinite  posted on  2007-09-19   10:38:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Pinguinite (#5)

If so, there's really not much more even a senator could do.

Kerry acted meekly as he's programmed to do. Not like a senator with authority and full knowledge of the law. The students are programmed to be meek: first they were silent, then laughed and then felt horrified.

“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"

Eoghan  posted on  2007-09-19   10:42:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Pinguinite (#5)

Legislators are not, by separation of power design, able to interfere with (so-called) law enforcement.

Please do't make excuses for this cowardly act of standing silent in a position of authority and letting a person be tasered for no good reason. He's complicit and a fraud.

"First they ignore you. Then they ridicule you. Then they fight you. Then you win." --Mahatma Gandhi

angle  posted on  2007-09-19   10:46:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Eoghan (#6)

Kerry acted meekly as he's programmed to do. Not like a senator with authority and full knowledge of the law.

But he wasn't a senator with "authority" that day. Beyond stating his preferences, he had no authority to interfere with what the police were doing. No more than the school janitor, at least.

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Pinguinite  posted on  2007-09-19   10:50:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Pinguinite (#8)

Baloney...a simple authoritative voice would have backed the cops off. They're trained to obey percieved authoriy figures. Now, those cops - they'll all probably lose their jobs due to a meek and mild senator.

“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"

Eoghan  posted on  2007-09-19   10:53:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: angle (#7)

Please do't make excuses for this cowardly act of standing silent in a position of authority and letting a person be tasered for no good reason. He's complicit and a fraud.

I'm not making any excuses for the police. They should be sued good and proper. Sure there are plenty of reasons why Kerry shouldn't be in office, but if we blame him improperly for this incident it hurts our credibility when we critique him for things he really has done wrong.

As per the 10th Amendment, a federal entity, especially a member of the legislative branch, has no authority to interfere with local police.

Kerry should issue a statement and be vocal, but that's all he can do. He has no "authority" in the incident, legally. Apart from whatever say so he'd have by virtue of being a guest, anyway. And if he did tell the police and audience he wanted to answer his question, what more would you want? What would Ron Paul have done?

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Pinguinite  posted on  2007-09-19   10:58:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Eoghan (#9)

Baloney...a simple authoritative voice would have backed the cops off. They're trained to obey percieved authoriy figures. Now, those cops - they'll all probably lose their jobs due to a meek and mild senator.

That I doubt. I don't think they are trained to stand down on a confrontation once it begins unless a their immediate bosses order it. I don't think they would have cared a whit what Kerry would have said. I just can't picture 5 or 6 cops, pinning this guy to the floor in the audience, turning their heads to the stage at Kerry's pleadings and one by one getting up and saying, "okay, I guess you can ask your question". Not in a million years could I picture that.

Once a physical confrontation begins, police will never, ever, backtrack. In their minds it's legally unreal and in the case of a truely violent person, very dangerous. They won't do it.

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Pinguinite  posted on  2007-09-19   11:04:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Pinguinite (#10)

I'd want him to say "Stop that, now. The young man has freedom of speech in this country and you're trying to deprive him of it."

"First they ignore you. Then they ridicule you. Then they fight you. Then you win." --Mahatma Gandhi

angle  posted on  2007-09-19   12:02:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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