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Title: George Bush the Texan is 'scared of horses'
Source: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/
URL Source: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/mai ... =/news/2007/09/21/wbush121.xml
Published: Sep 21, 2007
Author: Alex Spillius in Washington
Post Date: 2007-09-21 13:17:21 by robin
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Views: 508
Comments: 41

George Bush the Texan is 'scared of horses'


By Alex Spillius in Washington
Last Updated: 3:55am BST 21/09/2007

President Bush may like to be seen as a swaggering tough guy with a penchant for manly outdoor pursuits, but in a new book one of his closest allies has said he is afraid of horses.
George W Bush saddles up,
but where is the horse?

Vicente Fox, the former president of Mexico, derided his political friend as a "windshield cowboy" – a cowboy who prefers to drive – and "the cockiest guy I have ever met in my life".

He recalled a meeting in Mexico shortly after both men had been elected when Mr Fox offered Mr Bush a ride on a "big palomino" horse.

Mr Fox, who left office in December, recalled Mr Bush "backing away" from the animal.

''A horse lover can always tell when others don't share our passion," he said, according to the Washington Post.

Mr Bush has spoken of his fondness for shooting doves and cutting brush on his Crawford ranch in Texas, which he bought in 1999.

The property reportedly has no horses and only five cattle.

Mr Fox is the latest old friend to turn on Mr Bush as the US president faces a lonely final 18 months in office, derided for failures in Iraq and at home.

Donald Rumsfeld, his defence secretary until last November, asked recently if he missed the president, said flatly: "No."

Alan Greenspan, the former chairman of the Federal Reserve, has attacked the Bush administration's economic policy at length in a new autobiography, accusing the Republican president of poor fiscal discipline and betraying the party's basic principles of low spending.

Asked for his reaction to criticism from former aides, the president replied: "My feelings are not hurt."

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#1. To: robin, rowdee (#0)

I've heard this before and that's why I call him the Connecticut cowboy.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2007-09-21   13:28:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: robin (#0)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2007-09-21   14:01:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: ghostdogtxn (#2)

Just before lunchtime I heard Paul Harvey on the radio allude to this 'revelation'.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2007-09-21   14:05:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Fred Mertz (#1)

Of course not, you are all worthless parasites.

One has to wonder what other goodies Bush hides in his closet...

Cynicom  posted on  2007-09-21   14:13:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: robin (#0)

The saying was that Shrub was all hat, no cattle.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2007-09-21   14:21:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#5)

I can see that. This fake persona is something you generally see among the mentally incompetent.

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robin  posted on  2007-09-21   14:32:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: robin (#0)

his Crawford ranch in Texas, which he bought in 1999.

Which he paid for from his share of the sale of the baseball team, thanks to the corporate welfare which built the ballpark.


I've already said too much.

MUDDOG  posted on  2007-09-21   14:32:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: robin (#6)

Plenty of people buy into the "Texas cowboy" persona and support Shrub because of it. It's a great deal for Shrub - he gets to play make-believe, and the rest of the country plays along with him.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2007-09-21   14:36:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: MUDDOG (#7)

Which he paid for from his share of the sale of the baseball team, thanks to the corporate welfare which built the ballpark.

The Bush family and friends have taken corporate welfare to dizzying heights.

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robin  posted on  2007-09-21   14:43:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: robin (#0)

President Bush may like to be seen as a swaggering tough guy with a penchant for manly outdoor pursuits, but in a new book one of his closest allies has said he is afraid of horses.

Hey, this is a book I've got to run out and buy - that is if Homeland Security clears me for driving down to a local Costco - my car still is not RFI'D and there has been a delay in getting my chip installed in my ankle but perhaps they will allow me to go just this one time before I'm fully trackable like my neighbors are. Wowsers -unadulterated dirt about our very own despot and dished out by his former pals - how good does that get? The ex- compadre back stabbing anecdotes will surely get Americans at large smiling - kind of like "escape" reading for the spied upon, flight secured masses!!! What's the title - anyone know? I'm sitting on pins and needles waiting for Homeland Security local travel clearance to be able to read what Vincente Fox really really meant when he referred to Dubya as being "cocky"...

scrapper2  posted on  2007-09-21   14:52:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: scrapper2 (#10)

perhaps they will allow me to go just this one time before I'm fully trackable like my neighbors are.

lol! Are your papers in order? Don't leave home w/o swabs of blood and saliva samples. (assuming you saw that thread)

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robin  posted on  2007-09-21   14:55:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: robin (#0)

George Bush the Texan is 'scared of horses'

Perhaps he fears sharing the fate of Catherine the Great.

"Those who give and those who receive arbitrary power are alike criminal, and there is no man but is bound to resist it to the best of his power, wherever it shall show its face to the world. Nothing but absolute impotence can justify men in not resisting it to the best of their power." ---Edmund Burke

Peetie Wheatstraw  posted on  2007-09-21   15:18:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Fred Mertz (#1)

You picked out a nice name for the son of a bitch. And I'm not cussing. Fact is fact.

I knew he was all hat and no horse! Nor cattle either. All horseshit and no brains.

rowdee  posted on  2007-09-21   15:50:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: robin (#0) (Edited)

Laura let this cat out of the bag several years ago. She said he was afraid of horses and was a pickup cowboy. My personal opinion is that his is disinformation and he actually LOVES horses. In a really perverted, might turn into perforated colon kinda way. Don't click if you're squeamish.

http://slog.thestranger.com/2005/07/horse_active_ma

Mekons4  posted on  2007-09-21   15:52:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: rowdee (#13)

All horseshit and no brains.

The "Dummy" that sits on the knee of a ventriloquist needs no brains.

Cynicom  posted on  2007-09-21   15:53:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: rowdee (#13)

With props to Willie Green...

Fred Mertz  posted on  2007-09-21   15:56:47 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: robin, rowdee, christine (#0) (Edited)

I'm afraid of horsies, too.

I knew a gal in Iowa who was a real horse lover, and once when she tried to get between a trusted mare and her newborn filly she got kicked and her arm was broken.

She simply wanted to look the foal over and make sure it had all its fingers and toes, but, despite the mare's gentle nature and years of trust between the woman and the horse, she was in a cast from her shoulder to her hand and in a lot of pain. But, she was in the stall with the two, feeding and mucking within two days of the injury.

I never walk behind a horse within kicking distance, and when I'm near the bite end I hold the bridle. I try not to be twitchy and I talk in a calm, confident voice, but if they can smell fear (and I don't mean because I make #2) then perhaps I'm not fooling the animals at all.

I've never had a chance to cultivate trust with a horse and if I did I may not feel this way.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-09-21   17:35:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: robin (#0)

You mean to tell me what Laura said isnt true?! "I saw my in-laws down at the ranch over Easter. We like it down there. George didn't know much about ranches when we bought the place. Andover and Yale don't have a real strong ranching program. But I'm proud of George. He's learned a lot about ranching since that first year when he tried to milk the horse. What's worse, it was a male horse."

Zipporah  posted on  2007-09-21   18:00:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#12)

OMG...

Zipporah  posted on  2007-09-21   18:01:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: HOUNDDAWG (#17)

It's a helluva lot easier than cats! In fact, it's about as easy as cultivating a bond with a dog, which is a cinch.

When you walk around a horse's behind, always put you hand on his butt so he knows you're there. About the only thing they'll bite is a nice fresh apple.

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IndieTX  posted on  2007-09-21   18:16:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Cynicom (#4)

One has to wonder what other goodies Bush hides in his closet...

A vagina?

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IndieTX  posted on  2007-09-21   18:20:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Zipporah, Peetie Wheatstraw (#19)

myth

http://europeanhistory.about.com/od/catherinethegreat/a/histmyths1.htm

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robin  posted on  2007-09-21   19:19:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: robin, Peetie Wheatstraw (#22)

The Truth:

Catherine died in bed of illness

...probably died from Equine herpesvirus :P

Zipporah  posted on  2007-09-21   19:24:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Zipporah (#23) (Edited)

lol!

http://www.amazon.com/Catherine-Great-Love-Sex-Power/dp/0312328877

From The Washington Post's Book World/washingtonpost.com
Reviewed by Amanda Vaill

Let's get one thing straight right away: Catherine the Great did not die having sex with a horse. She died of a stroke -- confirmed by autopsy -- at the age of 67. And while she admitted that she "passionately loved riding," her 34 years on the Russian throne were marked by more than equestrian prowess: She overhauled her country's antiquated legal system, extended its borders into territory formerly held by Poland and the Ottoman Empire, established the great art collection now housed in the palace she had built for it, the Hermitage, introduced inoculation against smallpox, and managed to dispose of -- by assassination, execution or neglect -- her only competitors for the position of Empress of All the Russias. The "horse story," says her most recent biographer, Virginia Rounding, is a "scurrilous piece of fabrication," most likely put about by French Republicans who were enraged by this otherwise enlightened monarch's opposition to the French Revolution.

Them Frenchies.

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robin  posted on  2007-09-21   19:27:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Zipporah, robin (#23)

The Truth:

Catherine died in bed of illness

...caused by septicemia due to an infection derived from a vagina ruptured by... *SNORT!* :P

Seriously, though, she was quite "sex-driven": taking her pick of young virile men from the Officer Corps, and not to play pinochle with them either. (For those of you who don't know French, "corps" means "body"... :P)

"Aux armes, citoyens! Formez vos bataillons! Marchons! Marchons! Qu'un sang impur abreuve nos sillons!"

Peetie Wheatstraw  posted on  2007-09-21   19:53:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#25)

Catherine died in bed of illness

.. apropos ;P

Zipporah  posted on  2007-09-21   19:55:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: robin (#24)

She was an ethnic German, too. Whenever the Russians wanted things done right, they imported Germans to do the job. I read in Slezkine's book that the only ethnic group in Imperial Russia that were wealthier and better educated as a group than the realm's Jews were its ethnic Germans.

"Aux armes, citoyens! Formez vos bataillons! Marchons! Marchons! Qu'un sang impur abreuve nos sillons!"

Peetie Wheatstraw  posted on  2007-09-21   19:56:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: robin (#0)

Bush is not a Texan. He is a New England Yankee.

Oddly, before that his famiily was from St. Louis, and before that, from near Macomb, Illinois.

This is how decent Midwesteners can degrade themselves into Yankees. Lincoln, originally from Illinois by way of Kentucky, did the same thing.

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YertleTurtle  posted on  2007-09-21   20:02:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: HOUNDDAWG (#17)

I have a very healthy respect for both ends of horses and cattle, as well. That said, I don't pretend to be any sort of macho anything. I don't go around strutting and primping and acting like I was the second coming. I loved my horse and my cattle, but kept things in perspective with them--hell, I even did that with my sheepies.

His hobby is playing with chain saws! At least that is the impression he wants to make....its sort of like Reagan chopping firewood at Rancho Del Sol (IIRC that is the name is RR's ranch).

Reagan was a MAN, not a __________________ (fill in with whatever you wish).

rowdee  posted on  2007-09-21   20:16:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Peetie Wheatstraw, Zipporah (#27) (Edited)

The lovely actress Catherine Oxenberg is a direct descendant. (I don't know why I remember that bit of trivia.)

http://www.tv.com/catherine-oxenberg/person/56180/biography.html

http://www.nndb.com/people/119/000108792/

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robin  posted on  2007-09-21   20:17:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: robin (#30)

The lovely actress Catherine Oxenberg is a direct descendant. (I don't know why I remember that bit of trivia.)

Hmmm.... She does have a bit of a horse face... :P

(JK ;))

"Aux armes, citoyens! Formez vos bataillons! Marchons! Marchons! Qu'un sang impur abreuve nos sillons!"

Peetie Wheatstraw  posted on  2007-09-21   20:25:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#31)

ROFL!!

Zipporah  posted on  2007-09-21   20:26:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#31)

oh really?! And a flowing mane as well?

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robin  posted on  2007-09-21   20:29:22 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: IndieTX (#20)

It's a helluva lot easier than cats! In fact, it's about as easy as cultivating a bond with a dog, which is a cinch.

When you walk around a horse's behind, always put you hand on his butt so he knows you're there. About the only thing they'll bite is a nice fresh apple.

That's good to know, thanks.

I don't get much exposure to horsies.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-09-21   20:45:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: rowdee (#29)

I have a very healthy respect for both ends of horses and cattle, as well. That said, I don't pretend to be any sort of macho anything. I don't go around strutting and primping and acting like I was the second coming. I loved my horse and my cattle, but kept things in perspective with them--hell, I even did that with my sheepies.

His hobby is playing with chain saws! At least that is the impression he wants to make....its sort of like Reagan chopping firewood at Rancho Del Sol (IIRC that is the name is RR's ranch).

Reagan was a MAN, not a __________________ (fill in with whatever you wish).

I believe that you mentioned a big headed bull who could easily cold cock you just by turning toward you to say, "Whazzup, Dee?"

And, a ram can hurt you, especially if you don't get the signal in time and turn around and deflect the little imp's surprise ramming speed sneak attack! ;)

And, I can see Bush along with a lot of weekend hobbyists having fun with their shiny new (and easy to start with one pull) 14" chainsaws.

But, if he had to handle an 8-pony power 48" Stihl and do some serious timber jacking, he'd lose interest in playing El Macho Grande PDQ!

"Reagan was a MAN, not a" pisswilly.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-09-22   2:08:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Cynicom (#15)

The "Dummy" that sits on the knee of a ventriloquist needs no brains.

Plug him in! See him babble!

"First they ignore you. Then they ridicule you. Then they fight you. Then you win." --Mahatma Gandhi

angle  posted on  2007-09-22   2:40:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: rowdee (#29)

Reagan was an actor selected to play the same role as junior.

"First they ignore you. Then they ridicule you. Then they fight you. Then you win." --Mahatma Gandhi

angle  posted on  2007-09-22   2:48:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: HOUNDDAWG (#35)

:)

You are a quick study artist! See--you'd do fine with horsies if you were around them for more than a few minutes at a time.

rowdee  posted on  2007-09-22   11:18:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: angle (#37)

Reagan was a man........he didn't have to try to 'prove' his manhood, neither literally or figuratively. The same cannot be said for the liar in chief.

rowdee  posted on  2007-09-22   11:19:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: rowdee (#38)

Well, I wouldn't mind being around some old paint, but a spirited, powerful animal?

I don't think so.

When I watch the pro bull riders getting stomped, hoofed and maimed by one ton bulls I have to wonder if they're missing a chromosome or sumthin'.

I used to think that I was a genetic anomaly because I'd get up at 2 AM and go out into the freezing cold to hunt dux before sunrise. Most of my co-workers couldn't even picture themselves putting their feet on a cold floor hours before work time and it is a bitch to force myself not to crawl back under those warm blankies and go back to sleep! Few of my fellows understand why I'd either go out in a boat or walk into waist deep ice water in chest waders in the dark and wait for 1/2 hr before sunrise which is legal shooting time.

But, riding a bull that wants to crush me like a grape? Or, breaking a mustang that would rather not be saddled?

I'll take the calculated risk of cold water immersion to hunt because if I'm careful the odds favor me. But, even the best bull rider or horse breaker/saddle trainer/cowperson can be thrown and have her/his face sheared off, and that's not my idea of a good time.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-09-22   13:32:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: HOUNDDAWG (#40)

But, even the best bull rider or horse breaker/saddle trainer/cowperson can be thrown and have her/his face sheared off, and that's not my idea of a good time.

Very, very true. The young man I gave my mare to went on to riding bulls. At a rodeo in Washington state, he lost a piece of his ear lobe. And at another rodeo, his lower leg was stepped on. While the bone wasn't broken, tendon, muscle, and ligament damage took him off the circuit for something like 6 months. He wound up using some sort of electrical stimulation machine.

He was a very good bull rider; was in contention for rookie of the year til that happened. Wound up that at the NFR Finals, after the show when they ride stock for the various stock producers buy and sell sessions that he rode for them.

But he was never the same quality rider; and after 2 more years, gave it up and went back to outfitting and guiding. He was a good sportsman, thanks to his daddy, who had lived in Alaska for many years.

I loved that kid; he would have made me a proud mother; a good boy.

rowdee  posted on  2007-09-22   14:32:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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