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Title: Christian right looks to rebound
Source: Indy Star
URL Source: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/storie ... &SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
Published: Sep 22, 2007
Author: By ERIC GORSKI AP
Post Date: 2007-09-22 14:34:07 by Zipporah
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Views: 260
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Christian right looks to rebound

By ERIC GORSKI AP Religion Writer

BRANDON, Fla. (AP) -- Headed into the 2008 election season, Christian conservatives are weary. Their movement has lost iconic leaders and the Republican presidential field is uninspiring. But they may have found hope in a trailer on the campus of Bell Shoals Baptist Church.

There, in Annex Room No. 3, Ruth Klingman nods as a leader in Florida's pro-family movement describes how gay marriage would open the door to other "aberrant forms of marriage." He holds up a printout of "polygamy pot lucks" as evidence.

Yes, Klingman says afterward, she will do her part to pass a constitutional amendment cementing marriage as a union between one man and one woman in this presidential swing state.

The first Family Impact Summit had minted a new activist - tangible results from three days of talks and workshops meant to replenish the roots of the Christian right.

"I just feel the opposition is growing so strong, I need to grow stronger," said Klingman, 34, who drove two hours from the one-stoplight town of Hawthorne to join activists in this Tampa suburb.

Organized by a scarcely known Tampa-area Christian group and ending Saturday, the summit sounded a back-to-basics theme: that evangelicals are called to be active citizens to combat threats from the left; that the work must involve not just national advocacy groups but local people and pastors; and the fight requires patience and persistence.

That last sentiment is a reminder of the challenges facing the Christian right.

Activists lost key allies in Congress when the Democrats retook Congress in 2006, movement pioneers Jerry Falwell and D. James Kennedy died this year, and there's apathy over the current crop of GOP presidential candidates.

Even this weekend's summit had its disappointments. Organizers had hoped up to 350 people would attend, laying the groundwork for a new Florida activist network.

But only 104, nearly all from Florida, had registered by Friday. A workshop on the basics of grass roots activism drew a handful of people - and one was a spy, an activist for Americans United for Separation of Church and State researching the opposition.

"There will be peaks and valleys, but I don't know if people understand the depth and breadth of our movement," said Gary Cass, former executive director at Kennedy's Center for Reclaiming America for Christ, which closed after the South Florida preacher fell ill.

"While we lament the loss of our leaders, their ideas that have been sewn into the larger church culture are just now starting to germinate and take root."

In a sign of just how much Christian activists want new blood, the summit drew some of the movement's heavyweights, including former GOP presidential candidate Gary Bauer, Richard Land of the Southern Baptist Convention's Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission and Tony Perkins of the Family Research Council.

However, the organizing group was a Tampa-area shoestring operation: the Community Issues Council, previously known for fighting a local bikini bar. The group's sole full-time employee is former state Christian Coalition operative Terry Kemple.

Such national-local partnerships are the way to go right now, Kemple said: "It means more troops on the ground and more feet on the streets.

"The old saying is all politics is local. It gets people involved."

The power of state-level organization was seen in 2004, when 11 states passed amendments prohibiting gay marriage and were credited with driving up GOP turnout.

The next marriage battleground is likely here in Florida. In the workshop that won Klingman over, John Stemberger of the Florida Family Policy Council described the particulars: volunteers have collected 597,702 verified signatures toward the 611,009 needed to get an anti-gay marriage amendment on the fall 2008 ballot.

Mark Rozell, a professor of public policy at George Mason University, said state and local groups tend to stick close to social issues that please religious conservatives. Many in the movement wrote off the national Christian Coalition as just another mainstream GOP group vying for power after it got involved in foreign policy and tax cuts, he said.

"Even if these local groups merely exist for one election cycle and go out of existence, they can still have a real impact turning people out to vote," Rozell said.

Beyond gay marriage, abortion remains the cornerstone issue for conservative Christians, the one that got evangelicals involved in contemporary politics in the first place, said Land, of the Southern Baptist Convention. The GOP needs to take that into account when picking its presidential hopeful, he warned.

"If the Republicans are foolish enough to pick a pro-choice candidate, they've given the Democratic Party a license to go hunting for evangelical votes," Land said.

There is only one GOP hopeful who fits that description: front-runner Rudy Giuliani.

A Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life survey this month showed white evangelical Protestants are the only major group that considers social issues like abortion and gay marriage very important to '08 presidential decision-making. But even among that voting bloc, social issues trailed the Iraq war, the economy and other domestic issues.

Religious conservatives also are watching whether a second-tier GOP candidate can break through, said Tom Minnery, a vice president of Colorado Springs-based Focus on the Family. But Minnery already is highlighting other races for the control of Congress and several state legislatures.

"Those down-ballot races will be significant, and I hope that will make people excited," he said.

In Tampa, most panels stuck to hot-button themes aimed at getting Florida conservatives involved in politics: The Homosexual Agenda. Life Issues. Redeeming the Culture Through the Legal System. The Church and Voter Registration. Several speakers highlighted threats from militant Islam, an increased emphasis in the movement.

If many of those topics seem familiar or tired to people outside the movement, their power to move people should not be underestimated, said John Green, a senior fellow with the Pew Forum. The audience might just be activists-in-training in Florida this weekend, but it could be much larger in November 2008.

"Since the origins of the movement in 70s, obituaries have been written several times - and they've always turned out to be wrong," Green said. "This is very long-lived movement, in part because it has this capacity to renew itself at the state and local level."

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#1. To: Zipporah (#0)

Get a grip, bots.

The state has no business permitting or proscribing any form of marriage.

Join the Ron Paul Revolution

Lod  posted on  2007-09-22   14:56:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Zipporah (#0)

The first Family Impact Summit had minted a new activist - tangible results from three days of talks and workshops meant to replenish the roots of the Christian right.

A quick check of the speakers at this summit are what I refer to as "rapture monkeys"aka Israel first crowd... thanks to many voices the agenda of this "movement" are being exposed for what they are "delusional" Jesus has a better chance of returning before they can renew themselves....

This week in Washington, DC, Pastor John Hagee’s Christians United for Israel (CUFI) held its annual convention to promote the religious-right’s support of Israel. Amid an evening featuring Gary Bauer and Rod Parsley and the bashing of the United Nations, European Union, State Department, and Jimmy Carter as enemies of the state of Israel, rumored presidential candidate Newt Gingrich provided a relatively innocuous keynote address. Well, relative in the sense that Gingrich outlined his hawkish post-9/11 worldview as opposed to discussing Israel’s role in the impending rapture.

Most of the CUFI constituents in the audience appeared to agree with Hagee’s views regarding the rapidly approaching judgment day. As we highlighted earlier this year when John McCain was courting CUFI, Hagee’s apocalyptic foreign policy views aren’t exactly mainstream. So what explains Gingrich’s presence at an event hosted by Hagee, whose judgments are shaped by a belief in a biblically predestined war between Israel and Iran, and the worldwide rule of the Antichrist in the form of the head of the European Union?

Gingrich, who offered up a slightly modified stump speech, making mention of the need for strength and perseverance in the face of war and references to the importance of America’s Christian heritage, is apparently looking to build right-wing support for a potential presidential bid without publicly embracing the conferees’ most extreme ideas.

robnoel  posted on  2007-09-22   15:16:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: robnoel (#2)

So what explains Gingrich’s presence at an event hosted by Hagee, whose judgments are shaped by a belief in a biblically predestined war between Israel and Iran, and the worldwide rule of the Antichrist in the form of the head of the European Union?

Gingrich, who offered up a slightly modified stump speech, making mention of the need for strength and perseverance in the face of war and references to the importance of America’s Christian heritage, is apparently looking to build right-wing support for a potential presidential bid without publicly embracing the conferees’ most extreme ideas.

I think you very well may be correct.. Gingrich has been quietly working behind the scene rather than in full view..

Zipporah  posted on  2007-09-22   15:28:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Zipporah (#0)

Organizers had hoped up to 350 people would attend, laying the groundwork for a new Florida activist network.

But only 104, nearly all from Florida, had registered by Friday.

Those are the people you can fool all of the time.


I've already said too much.

MUDDOG  posted on  2007-09-22   15:41:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: MUDDOG (#4)

Those are the people you can fool all of the time.

.. this IS true.. well with the Christian right losing favor I suppose the neocons have already starting morphing into a new identity..

Zipporah  posted on  2007-09-22   15:47:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: robnoel. Newt despisers here (#2)

Newt has way too much slime-baggage to ever be elected to anything again.

Join the Ron Paul Revolution

Lod  posted on  2007-09-22   16:11:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: lodwick (#6)

I B 1 of those despisers. I wouldn't even vote him as dog catcher, or honey- wagon driver! Anyone who will testify that a treaty will give away a chunk of our sovereignty and then push people and twist arms to get them to vote for the POS treaty doesn't deserve a job--even in a shit house.

rowdee  posted on  2007-09-22   16:16:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: lodwick (#1)

The state has no business permitting or proscribing any form of marriage.

'Gay marriage' is what the neocons use to get their Christian tools to the polls on Election Day. Worked like a charm last time...

Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org

who knows what evil  posted on  2007-09-22   16:18:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: rowdee (#7)

I disagree...I could see Newt driving the 'ol honey wagon...wearing one of those nice crisp white uniforms.

Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org

who knows what evil  posted on  2007-09-22   16:19:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: who knows what evil, rowdee, rob noel, all honey-wagon drivers here (#9)

My best friend lives in Newt's old district - he reports that everyone he knows positively loathes the newster...on any number of different counts.

Join the Ron Paul Revolution

Lod  posted on  2007-09-22   16:50:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Zipporah (#0)

Yeah, the biggest problem facing our country is whether or not two guys who live together can get married. MUCH more important than war, 89 million people with no healthcare, unemployment, violation of our Constitution and on and on. One-issue people like this REALLY piss me off. Personally, I think enough of them are ashamed of voting for Bush twice that their turnout is going to be way down from 2004. But I might be giving them credit for having consciences they don't possess.

The ultimate model for this kind of person is the woman in, I think, Georgia who spent three years non-stop trying to get Harry Potter books banned from state libraries. And bookstores, if should could. An IQ of, perhaps, 60.

Mekons4  posted on  2007-09-22   17:38:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Zipporah (#0)

There, in Annex Room No. 3, Ruth Klingman nods as a leader in Florida's pro-family movement describes how gay marriage would open the door to other "aberrant forms of marriage." He holds up a printout of "polygamy pot lucks" as evidence.

Yes, Klingman says afterward, she will do her part to pass a constitutional amendment cementing marriage as a union between one man and one woman....

the organizing group was a Tampa-area shoestring operation: the Community Issues Council, previously known for fighting a local bikini bar. The group's sole full-time employee is former state Christian Coalition operative Terry Kemple.....

The next marriage battleground is likely here in Florida. In the workshop that won Klingman over, John Stemberger of the Florida Family Policy Council described the particulars:.....

Mark Rozell, a professor of public policy at George Mason University, said state and local groups tend to stick close to social issues that please religious conservatives. Many in the movement wrote off the national Christian Coalition as just another mainstream GOP group vying for power after it got involved in foreign policy and tax cuts, he said.

"Even if these local groups merely exist for one election cycle and go out of existence, they can still have a real impact turning people out to vote," Rozell said. ....

If many of those topics seem familiar or tired to people outside the movement, their power to move people should not be underestimated, said John Green, a senior fellow with the Pew Forum.

Is it just me, or do these names sound Jewish?

I said what my suspicions are earlier in the day.

Why do I think "aberrant forms of marriage" might be code for something like the wedding between "the Church and the Lamb"?

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2007-09-22   22:27:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: robnoel (#2)

Gary Bauer...

PNAC's Gary Bauer...guess having Bill Kristol in attendance might have been a bit much.

Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org

who knows what evil  posted on  2007-09-22   22:34:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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