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Title: A Feeling I'm Being Had [Dilbert on Ahmedinajad - must read]
Source: The Dilbert Blog
URL Source: http://dilbertblog.typepad.com/the_ ... g/2007/09/a-feeling-im-be.html
Published: Sep 23, 2007
Author: Scott Adams
Post Date: 2007-09-23 09:12:01 by a vast rightwing conspirator
Keywords: None
Views: 832
Comments: 40

A Feeling I'm Being Had

I was happy to hear that NYC didn't allow Iranian President Ahmadinejad to place a wreath at the WTC site. And I was happy that Columbia University is rescinding the offer to let him speak. If you let a guy like that express his views, before long the entire world will want freedom of speech.

I hate Ahmadinejad for all the same reasons you do. For one thing, he said he wants to "wipe Israel off the map." Scholars tell us the correct translation is more along the lines of wanting a change in Israel's government toward something more democratic, with less gerrymandering. What an ass-muncher!

Ahmadinejad also called the holocaust a "myth." Fuck him! A myth is something a society uses to frame their understanding of their world, and act accordingly. It's not as if the world created a whole new country because of holocaust guilt and gives it a free pass no matter what it does. That's Iranian crazy talk. Ahmadinejad can blow me.

Most insulting is the fact that "myth" implies the holocaust didn't happen. Fuck him for saying that! He also says he won't dispute the historical claims of European scientists. That is obviously the opposite of saying the holocaust didn't happen, which I assume is his way of confusing me. God-damned fucker.

Furthermore, why does an Iranian guy give a speech in his own language except for using the English word "myth"? Aren't there any Iranian words for saying a set of historical facts has achieved an unhealthy level of influence on a specific set of decisions in the present? He's just being an asshole.

Ahmadinejad believes his role is to pave the way for the coming of the Twelfth Imam. That's a primitive apocalyptic belief! I thank Jesus I do not live in a country led by a man who believes in that sort of bullshit. Imagine how dangerous that would be, especially if that man had the launch codes for nuclear weapons.

The worst of the worst is that Ahmadinejad's country is helping the Iraqis kill American soldiers. If Iran ever invades Canada, I think we'd agree the best course of action for the United States is to be constructive and let things sort themselves out. Otherwise we'd be just as evil as the Iranians. Those fuckers.

Those Iranians need to learn from the American example. In this country, if the clear majority of the public opposes the continuation of a war, our leaders will tell us we're terrorist-humping idiots and do whatever they damn well please. They might even increase our taxes to do it. That's called leadership.

If Ahmadinejad thinks he can be our friend by honoring our heroes and opening a dialog, he underestimates our ability to misinterpret him. Fucking idiot. I hate him.

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#21. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#0)

Mr. Adams misses one crucial point.

Freedom of speech does not create a requirement that you be heard or granted an audience.

Many people make that critical error.

mirage  posted on  2007-09-23   15:50:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: mirage (#21)

Freedom of speech does not create a requirement that you be heard or granted an audience.

My understanding is that he was invited to speak there.

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2007-09-23   17:59:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#23)

My understanding is that he was invited to speak there.

As such, the invitation can be canceled. Standing on a street corner, as is the current plan, cannot be canceled.

Such is how things work.

mirage  posted on  2007-09-23   18:26:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: mirage, a vast rightwing conspirator, Fred Mertz (#24)

As such, the invitation can be canceled. Standing on a street corner, as is the current plan, cannot be canceled.

Such is how things work.

If the invitation to a Head of State is rescinded - a second time - due to pressure from a small but powerful monied special interest group is that how things are supposed to work in a democracy?

If the invitation is rescinded, then I sincerely hope that Iran's Head of State goes to a street corner adjacent to Columbia University and that he continue with the program that he had been led to believe would take place on campus.

I have no doubt President Ahmadinejad would attract the same audience numbers as he would if he were at the campus auditorium because intellectual curiosity will not be denied by a self-serving AmericaLast/IsraelFirst group of repressive goons.

scrapper2  posted on  2007-09-23   18:43:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: scrapper2 (#26)

If the invitation to a Head of State is rescinded - a second time - due to pressure from a small but powerful monied special interest group is that how things are supposed to work in a democracy?

You asked the right question.

In a DEMOCRACY, that is how things work.
In a REPUBLIC, it would not necessarily work that way.

What is the difference between the two? Find that answer and you'll know why we have problems in the USA these days.

mirage  posted on  2007-09-23   18:56:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: mirage (#27)

In a DEMOCRACY, that is how things work. In a REPUBLIC, it would not necessarily work that way.

Fyi, I used the word democracy generically to represent "free and open society."

Our being a republic applies to the type of government we have and its powers. But the Columbia event has nothing to do with government. It has to do with the basic concepts that define Western liberalism, pluristic societies. A minority group - albeit a politically influential and monied one - should not have the right to restrict the freedoms ( association and speech) of the majority just because they the minority don't want to attend the event or listen to the guest speaker. This is a ridiculous situation and I'm somewhat surprised that this minority group would risk bringing such negative publicity to themselves especially at a time when Mearsheimer and Walt's book has just been released. Their current behavior/antics regarding Columbia's event shows them to be "controlling" - an adjective they normally try to disavow.

scrapper2  posted on  2007-09-23   19:17:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: scrapper2 (#28)

You're asking the wrong question.

Is Columbia a private institution or not? If they are, then they have the right to restrict access to whomever they want.

The answer is: Columbia is not a public institution. They can do as they wish.

This has nothing to do with speech and everything to do with private property rights.

The only question to ask is -- why did Columbia's management cave in? They have every right to revoke the invitation as it is a private institution -- unless you think that people have the right to stage a protest in your living room?

mirage  posted on  2007-09-23   22:13:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: mirage (#29) (Edited)

The only question to ask is -- why did Columbia's management cave in? They have every right to revoke the invitation as it is a private institution -- unless you think that people have the right to stage a protest in your living room?

What voices do you hear that no one else hears? What visions do you see that no one else sees? Enough of these silly games of parsing words and phrases.

If wishes were horses...

Fyi, Columbia's "management" ( ie. President Lee Bollinger) has NOT cancelled the speaking engagement invitation to President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. For your perusal and to help you get a grip on reality, go to the following link:

http://www.columbia.edu/

Eat your heart out.

scrapper2  posted on  2007-09-23   22:27:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: scrapper2 (#31)

Why do you wish to censor a 'small and vocal minority' and make them not be heard?

Certainly in a 'free and open society' they should have the same rights you wish to let others have, correct?

mirage  posted on  2007-09-23   23:00:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: mirage (#32)

Why do you wish to censor a 'small and vocal minority' and make them not be heard?

Certainly in a 'free and open society' they should have the same rights you wish to let others have, correct?

Uh oh. Now you've done it...

As Bob warned, the new cult mutation might be "Everybody's exactly the same dammit -- except for that goddamned small vocal minority."

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