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Title: Lies, lies and more lies about President Ahmadinejad
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Published: Sep 25, 2007
Author: Rep. David Duke PhD
Post Date: 2007-09-25 05:50:50 by Liberate Jim Traficant
Keywords: Ahmadinejad, David Duke, Israel, Iran, Holocaust, Map
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By David Duke Once more the Zionist-controlled media in America deluges the American public with lies about Iran’s President, Ahmadinejad. The Jewish extremist Neocons want to repeat the catastrophe of the American war for Israel in Iraq, a war based completely on lies. As most Americans now know, the Iraq War has been nothing but catastrophic for the true interests of the American people. And now the lie machine is going full bore. In thousands of articles, news shows, public statements and the like we are hearing two constantly repeated lies about the Iranian President. First we hear incessantly that he has called for Israel to be “wiped off the map,” an allusion to some sort of nuclear holocaust over Israel. This allegation is a bold faced lie. I was present for one of his speeches in Tehran in which he supposedly made this threat against Israel. In fact, he said he thought the Zionist regime would fall with time just as the Communist regime in Russia fell. Was Russia wiped off the map when Communism fell? Of course it was not. In his speech Ahmadinejad went on to say that the human rights of all people in the Mideast must be respected, Muslim, Jew and Christian and he hoped there would be real democracy where the people of the region could freely vote for the kind of government they wanted. That is the opposite of the reported “wipe Israel off the map lie,” a vicious lie intended to beat the drums for murderous and catastrophic war against Iran. The second major lie about Ahmadinejad is that he is a “Holocaust denier.” Ahmadinejad has from the beginning said that he believes there were terrible crimes against Jews during the Second World War that nobody denies, but he has simply said that real history means that all points of view should be debated and heard. He also correctly points out that 60 million people died in the war, mostly civilians, so why does the world hear more about Jewish suffering in the press than about all the other 60 million victims of the war. Why is the Holocaust brought up almost every day in the press, over 60 years after the war? He suggests that there are political reasons for this, that the Holocaust is used to justify Zionist crimes against millions of Palestinians and other Middle easterners. He rightly suggests that that is the reason why we hear little about the far more murderous Communist gulags and holocaust against tens of millions, or the ethnic cleansing and murder of millions of Germans at the end of the Second World War. The Russian, Eastern European, German victims of the war have no powerful lobby, no powerful representation in a world press dominated by Jewish extremists. The fact is that Ahmadinejad did not sponsor a Holocaust Denial conference in Tehran, he sponsored a Conference for free speech and research on the Holocaust. He was trying to present a forum for academic free speech on the issue. As a speaker at the conference I heard many speakers defend the official Holocaust story, but I also heard many academics there raise legitimate questions. Ahmadinejad pointed out rightly that thousands of people, including many academics, have been jailed for simply questioning some parts of the establishment view of the Holocaust story. That is the real affront to humanity he says, jailing people for their opinions, as historian David Irving was jailed in Austria for giving his historical opinion on aspects of the Holocaust. Instead of condemning Ahmadinejad for allowing free speech on the Holocaust, shouldn’t the President of the United States be condemning European nations that violate the most basic of human rights, freedom of speech, thought, opinion and conscience? What is the real affront to humanity? With all the media claims of suppression of human rights in Iran, people in the West should be ashamed that the President of Iran should be the one to defend freedom of speech in Europe and America. The Iranian President has also been painted by the media as anti-American. He has repeatedly voiced his respect and friendship toward the American people. What he opposes is the policies of the United States government. Recent polls show that a vast majority of Americans ourselves are opposed to the policies of those who are controlling our government. We are for instance opposed to Americans dying and being maimed by thousands in the Iraq war, a war for Israel not America. Ahmadinejad is anti George Bush and by the way, according to recent polls, so are over 60 percent of the American people. He opposes as do the American people, the Israeli extremists who have had so much control over American foreign policies, policies that have been detrimental to Iran, the Mideast and to America as well. The Jewish extremists in government and in the press are now trying to drum up a terrible war with Iran that will unleash terrorism and economic disaster that would make the Iraq War seem minor in comparison. To create this war they must create a monster. They must turn the rather soft-spoken Ahmadinejad into a fire-breathing threat. To do so they must lie, lie, lie and lie again. I urge the American people to reject these lies, to not be manipulated by them. To truly defend the interests of America, not the interests of Israel, Iran or any other country! As a former American elected official who has received significant votes in major American elections, as an American citizen I welcome the Iranian President here and demand that the press honestly reports his statements and positions and not lie to the American people. I urge the officials in the United States Government to follow a path of peace and not the insanity and catastrophe of an Israeli-promoted war with Iran. David Duke 
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#1. To: Liberate Jim Traficant (#0)
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I smell a rat. The short - is that Ahmadinejad is a pathological liar and David Duke is just plain deceived on several fronts. Sad. The long - is that God will allow the nations to align against Israel and Judah. Things are going to get very bad for us in the future. The fulfillment of the prophesies concerning latter day Israel will not be pleasant.
"I've even suggested that we follow the constitution." Revelation 2:9 (King James Version) I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan. Revelation 3:9 (King James Version) Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
The secret of contentment is knowing how to enjoy what you have, and to be able to lose all desire for things beyond your reach. Lin Yutang "We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." --- William Casey, Director CIA (Quote from internal staff meeting notes 1981)
The short - is that Ahmadinejad is a pathological liar and David Duke is just plain deceived on several fronts. Sad. I smell a rat, as well, but not for reasons you cite. The rat I smell is David Duke. Come on - David Duke is "on the payroll" or else someone has got some scary nasty blackmail stuff hanging over Duke's head to make him behave so predictably. Though some here worship Duke's every word, in my opinion, David Duke is the equivalent of a neo Nazi poster boy caricature. Therefore, anytime David Duke defends or endorses someone, the result is that it's like a Kiss of Death for credibility/legitimacy. And oddly enough, Duke always manages to come out of the woodwork with his Kiss of Death at the most opportune times - opportune from the Usual Suspects' perspective, that is. As for Ahmadinejad - he's no angel that's for sure but otoh I don't believe he's the Devil Incarnate. Ahmadinejad is a successful politician - albeit his success came about due to the significant help afforded to him prior to Iran's elections by Goofy's ignorant big yap telling Iranians how they should vote causing them to vote the exact opposite way and bringing Ahmadinejad into power. But my point is all politicians the world over are liars - it's a requirement of the career and politicians are not very ethical people - some are worse than others - at least Ahmadinejad doesn't haul off and plow into other defenseless sovereign nations at his whim. Let's face it...what kind of people are attracted to politics except for lying power grubbing weasels?
True. I think Ahmadinejad does have a nuclear bomb ego and will covertly supply anyone willing to harm Israel. Regrettably, this seems to be almost universally true. Give me control over a man's economic actions, and hence over his means of survival, and except for a few occasional heroes, I'll promise to deliver to you men who think and write and behave as I want them to. "I've even suggested that we follow the constitution." Geez, I don't see that.
"First they ignore you. Then they ridicule you. Then they fight you. Then you win." --Mahatma Gandhi
These are valid points that one cannot speak without hearing the angry shouts of "holocaust denier!" It's sadly true that both Jewish and Christian Zionists act as if the only deaths in WWII were Jews killed by Hitler. Yes, it was a great loss, but the failure to keep in perspective the slaughter of millions all over the world reveals a myopic view of that war. Notice that those who use the holocaust to shape policy now have invented a new application of their charges. Now, anyone who denies that the holocaust was as large or as singularly significant, or who challenges whether Israel should exist because of the holocaust, is labeled a holocaust denier. If you ever needed proof that the Likudies were running our major media, one only need watch the mainstream media universally disparging Ahmadinejad on his visit. Zionists run our mainstream media.
I concur with your astute appraisal. The end of Israel/Jew worship is the beginning of the restoration of the republic and the associated liberty.
"The mighty are only mighty because we are on our knees. Let us rise!" --Camille Desmoulins
When was the last time we read of the "Holodomor" in the MSM? The New York Times led the parade to ensure that nothing was printed about that affair.
True. It's the Ukraines, it's the Chinese, the Russians, and the Cambodians. All saw losses in the millions between 1930 and 1980. Even calling what happened to Jews under the Nazis "the holocaust" is evidence of the proprietary nature of the holocaust mythology. As someone pointed out, the fact is that millions of Jews were put to death, but it is the mythology used even today surrounding those events which drive major world events. In short, creating a state in the mideast because of what happened in Europe to Jews under Nazism is the single worst overreaction of the world in the 20th century. What kind of idiots would think you could place a Jewish homeland in the middle of Palestine and expect it to work? The answer to the slaughter of Jews by Nazis was the ending of Nazism and the transforming of the guilty states. That happened. The creation of Israel in response was illogical and unwarranted. It was a mistake, one we have to live with every day now.
Truman left this pearl of wisdom... "Pressured by Zionists, Truman told his staff: “These Goddamned Jews are never satisfied. They’re always grabbing for more. We don’t need them in November. To hell with them!" Truman should know.
I agree with you. I did not accuse Ahmadinejad of being a pathological liar. Another poster, "tzf90" made that accusation. I was responding to a quote by "tzf90."
Michael Herzog did a good show yesterday discussing Ahmadinejad's speech at Columbia. If you have the time, you can listen to the archived show here:
what's to disagree with in Duke's commentary here? in your opinion, where is he deceived?
Don't be absurd. If you truly feared "nuclear bomb egos" and weren't just saying that because you are a chickenhawk neozio panty wetter, you'd cast your gaze at the 2 most scary nuclear egos walking the planet today - ie Bibi Netanyahu and DarthCheney. Buy a clue, why don't you. Iran has not invaded or attacked any other sovereign nation for over 2000 years. Iran is not a culture that is trying to expand its boundaries and steal other people's lands on a daily basis, cough, cough. As for Ahmadinejad "covertly supplying anyone willing to harm Israel" - puhleaze, do some reading about Iran before you display your IsraelFirst bias. Ahmadinejad does not have the power you think he has - in fact he's like a Nancy Pelosi power wise - certainly not even close to Cheney's level of power as VP. Secondly, the folks who want harm to come to Israel and America are Sunni Arab fundies - who despiese non-Arab Shiite Iranians as much as they hate Israel and America. So why would Ahmadinejad give his own nation's enemies nuke weaponry? It's time to change those wet panties, tzf90... Iran needs nuclear power and desperately so for economic reasons - oil is its most important asset and it wants to export all the oil and gas it can and not "waste" it on domestic use. It's Iran's right to develop nuclear power as guranteed by membership in the IEAE and signing onto the NNP treaty - neither of which clubs Israel has seen fit to join itself. If Iran wants to develop nuke weaponry on the sly - well, golly gee, do you blame Iran? It's got oil and gas - which the 2 most milataristic hostile governments covet daily. And both of these governments have already demonstrated that they will invade and occupy any country they please even if their own peoples- Americans and Israelis - are sickened by their gov'ts incessant need for war and occupation. If Iran wants nukes it's as a defensive measure to protect itself against aggressive invasion from governments whose leaders think "pre-emptive" attack is a God given right because they are exceptionally special.
You really should try to base your politics on something other than 2-3000 year old myths scribbled by Hebrew goatherds. Ahmadenijad is a clown, but he is in no way a threat. His own people don't care for him, and in Europe people laugh at him, but not one of them shakes in their boots in fear of him (unlike neoconned Americans and religious nuts). Maybe it's because people in other places take their snouts out of the book of goatherd myths and think once in a while.
- snip - For one thing "the media" being "Zionist-controlled", IMHO is an exaggeration. - snip - Mr. Duke makes it seem as if being "soft-spoken" equates to innocence. I disagree.
"I've even suggested that we follow the constitution." Thanks - I'm going to have a busy day - but - I'll look at it this evening.
"I've even suggested that we follow the constitution." Amen!
The secret of contentment is knowing how to enjoy what you have, and to be able to lose all desire for things beyond your reach. Lin Yutang "We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." --- William Casey, Director CIA (Quote from internal staff meeting notes 1981)
If you find a better belief system, let me know. I can't abandon plan - A, till I see a better plan - B. Seriously, I have seen enough of the prophesies and their fulfillment to have no doubt about the matter.
"I've even suggested that we follow the constitution." Sorry, but basing Mideast policy on the Bible makes about as much sense to me as basing policy towards Greece on the Iliad and Odyssey. America's preference for myths over facts is one of the main reasons why we don't have a rational foreign policy. Take away the myths, and Israel comes across not as a chosen nation but as a liability, and the Iranian President comes across as a clown rather than an anti-Christ.
The real irony is that the Old Testament isn't even original to those goat herders. Much of it was borrowed from the texts of other tribes, other religions in the region, and predate documented serial liar Abraham's departure from Ur, before he ever got a promise from his heavenly vision. If one wants to follow the Bible, he might as well go back to the Epic of Gilgamesh and read the real deal.
Yes, I realize that. I was commenting on your post to tzf 90 . Sorry for the confusion.
"First they ignore you. Then they ridicule you. Then they fight you. Then you win." --Mahatma Gandhi
I took a listen to Mr. Herzog's mp3 and I'm just not as sold on Ahmadinejad as Chamberlain was on Hitler. /pun I think Ahmadinejad is just waiting for Muslims to take over the world organically. A quote from his page on wikipedia - "After his election he proclaimed, "Thanks to the blood of the martyrs, a new Islamic revolution has arisen and the Islamic revolution of 1384 [the current Iranian year] will, if God wills, cut off the roots of injustice in the world." He said, that "the wave of the Islamic revolution" would soon "reach the entire world."[32]" As long as you are happy with the concept of being ruled by Sharia [Islamic law] all should be well. Below I quote a short story from an Israeli news site - by: Yaakov Lappin Iran: Israel, US will soon die Ahmadinejad: Be assured that the US and Israel will soon end lives Israel and the United States will soon be destroyed, Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said Tuesday during a meeting with Syria's foreign minister, the Islamic Republic of Iran Broadcasting (IRIB) website said in a report. Iran's official FARS news agency also reported the comments. "Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad… assured that the United States and the Zionist regime of Israel will soon come to the end of their lives," the Iranian president was quoted as saying. "Sparking discord among Muslims, especially between the Shiites and Sunnis, is a plot hatched by the Zionists and the US for dominating regional nations and looting their resources," Ahmadinejad added, according to the report. The Iranian president also directly tied events in Lebanon to a wider plan aimed at Israel's destruction. He called on "regional countries" to "support the Islamic resistance of the Lebanese people and strive to enhance solidarity and unity among the different Palestinian groups in a bid to pave the ground for the undermining of the Zionist regime whose demise is, of course, imminent." Ahmadinejad has threatened the State of Israel with annihilation several times in recent months, and has recently added the US and Britain to the list of countries he says will be destroyed. Syria's Foreign Minister, Wailed Mualem, accused the US of attempting to carry out a "massacre of Muslims" and of sowing "discord among Islamic faiths in the region." Mualem called on "regional states to pave the ground for the establishment of peace and tranquillity… while preventing further genocide of the Muslims," the IRIB website said. Iran: Israel, US will soon die ------------------------------- I just don't trust Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
"I've even suggested that we follow the constitution." Well I would take anything from Wikipedia with a grain of salt particularly when it comes to such politically charged people or issues.. All I know of this man is what Ive heard from him in recent days.. the 60 Mins interview for one.. I can say one thing about him ..the things he said re religion were dead on.. Whether we trust him or not doesnt matter.. what does matter is that there is a conspiracy to attack Iran no matter what the truth is.. Iran is absolutely no threat to us as Saddam was no threat to the US.
Had to laugh at this one: That's prolly who's spamming all the polls.
" Junk is the ideal product... the ultimate merchandise. No sales talk necessary. The client will crawl through a sewer and beg to buy." - William S Burroughs
i don't trust this at all. Ahmadinejad has threatened the State of Israel with annihilation several times in recent months, and has recently added the US and Britain to the list of countries he says will be destroyed. i believe it's been proven that this is not true. the American and Israeli news have purposefully mistranslated what he actually said.
Hmm now this is interesting from that wiki link:
Word by word translation: Imam (Khomeini) ghoft (said) een (this) rezhim-e (regime) ishghalgar-e (occupying) qods (Jerusalem) bayad (must) az safheh-ye ruzgar (from page of time) mahv shavad (vanish from) One of many articles about this http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/jonathan_steele/2006/06/post_155.html Experts confirm that Iran's president did not call for Israel to be 'wiped off the map'. Reports that he did serve to strengthen western hawks. June 14, 2006 12:49 PM | Printable version My recent comment piece explaining how Iran's president was badly misquoted when he allegedly called for Israel to be "wiped off the map" has caused a welcome little storm. The phrase has been seized on by western and Israeli hawks to re-double suspicions of the Iranian government's intentions, so it is important to get the truth of what he really said. I took my translation - "the regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time" - from the indefatigable Professor Juan Cole's website where it has been for several weeks. But it seems to be mainly thanks to the Guardian giving it prominence that the New York Times, which was one of the first papers to misquote Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, came out on Sunday with a defensive piece attempting to justify its reporter's original "wiped off the map" translation. (By the way, for Farsi speakers the original version is available here.) Joining the "off the map" crowd is David Aaronovitch, a columnist on the Times (of London), who attacked my analysis yesterday. I won't waste time on him since his knowledge of Farsi is as minimal as that of his Latin. The poor man thinks the plural of casus belli is casi belli, unaware that casus is fourth declension with the plural casus (long u). The New York Times goes on: "The second translation issue concerns the word 'map'. Khomeini's words were abstract: 'Sahneh roozgar.' Sahneh means scene or stage, and roozgar means time. The phrase was widely interpreted as 'map', and for years, no one objected. In October, when Mr Ahmadinejad quoted Khomeini, he actually misquoted him, saying not 'Sahneh roozgar' but 'Safheh roozgar', meaning pages of time or history. No one noticed the change, and news agencies used the word 'map' again." This, in my view, is the crucial point and I'm glad the NYT accepts that the word "map" was not used by Ahmadinejad. (By the way, the Wikipedia entry on the controversy gets the NYT wrong, claiming falsely that Ethan Bronner "concluded that Ahmadinejad had in fact said that Israel was to be wiped off the map".) Two other well-established translation sources confirm that Ahmadinejad was referring to time, not place. The version of the October 26 2005 speech put out by the Middle East Media Research Institute, based on the Farsi text released by the official Iranian Students News Agency, says: "This regime that is occupying Qods [Jerusalem] must be eliminated from the pages of history." (NB: not "wiped". I accept that "eliminated" is almost the same, indeed some might argue it is more sinister than "wiped", though it is a bit more of a mouthful if you are trying to find four catchy and easily memorable words with which to incite anger against Iran.) MEMRI (its text of the speech is available here) is headed by a former Isareli military intelligence officer and has sometimes been attacked for alleged distortion of Farsi and Arabic quotations for the benefit of Israeli foreign policy. On this occasion they supported the doveish view of what Ahmadinejad said. Finally we come to the BBC monitoring service which every day puts out hundreds of highly respected English translations of broadcasts from all round the globe to their subscribers - mainly governments, intelligence services, thinktanks and other specialists. I approached them this week about the controversy and a spokesperson for the monitoring service's marketing unit, who did not want his name used, told me their original version of the Ahmadinejad quote was "eliminated from the map of the world". As a result of my inquiry and the controversy generated, they had gone back to the native Farsi-speakers who had translated the speech from a voice recording made available by Iranian TV on October 29 2005. Here is what the spokesman told me about the "off the map" section: "The monitor has checked again. It's a difficult expression to translate. They're under time pressure to produce a translation quickly and they were searching for the right phrase. With more time to reflect they would say the translation should be "eliminated from the page of history". Would the BBC put out a correction, given that the issue had become so controversial, I asked. "It would be a long time after the original version", came the reply. I interpret that as "probably not", but let's see. Finally, I approached Iradj Bagherzade, the Iranian-born founder and chairman of the renowned publishing house, IB Tauris. He thought hard about the word "roozgar". "History" was not the right word, he said, but he could not decide between several better alternatives "this day and age", "these times", "our times", "time". So there we have it. Starting with Juan Cole, and going via the New York Times' experts through MEMRI to the BBC's monitors, the consensus is that Ahmadinejad did not talk about any maps. He was, as I insisted in my original piece, offering a vague wish for the future. A very last point. The fact that he compared his desired option - the elimination of "the regime occupying Jerusalem" - with the fall of the Shah's regime in Iran makes it crystal clear that he is talking about regime change, not the end of Israel. As a schoolboy opponent of the Shah in the 1970's he surely did not favour Iran's removal from the page of time. He just wanted the Shah out. The same with regard to Israel. The Iranian president is undeniably an opponent of Zionism or, if you prefer the phrase, the Zionist regime. But so are substantial numbers of Israeli citizens, Jews as well as Arabs. The anti-Zionist and non-Zionist traditions in Israel are not insignificant. So we should not demonise Ahmadinejad on those grounds alone. Does this quibbling over phrases matter? Yes, of course. Within days of the Ahmadinejad speech the then Israeli prime minister, Ariel Sharon, was calling for Iran to be expelled from the United Nations. Other foreign leaders have quoted the map phrase. The United States is piling pressure on its allies to be tough with Iran. Let me give the last word to Juan Cole, with whom I began. "I am entirely aware that Ahmadinejad is hostile to Israel. The question is whether his intentions and capabilities would lead to a military attack, and whether therefore pre-emptive warfare is prescribed. I am saying no, and the boring philology is part of the reason for the no."
Well with the Loonie reaching parity with the US dollar, China may call in the debt we owe them, massive inflation can be predicted by somber minds over the next few years, record fore closures coming our way, median pay decreases and the tremendous future costs of caring for the maimed form and supporting the families of the dead resulting from the Bush's war of "opportunity", maybe he has a point. I know this is off topic from your comment, but that's the way it struck me.
"Satan / Cheney in "08"
'Wiped off the Map' – The Rumor of the Century
The MSM would lead you to think that, but they would also lead you to think that Ron Paul only has 1% support. David Duke is well liked by many in America despite the MSM demonization of him. David Duke has spoken the truth, I'm sure they don't want people reading what he has wrote about Ahmadinejad so they will not make a big deal about it. Drawing attention to what Duke has wrote here will only hurt their chances of starting a war with Iran.
God is always good!
I'll do my best to refrain from causing rain on your Ahmadinejad / David Duke parade.
"I've even suggested that we follow the constitution." ?? What are you implying? I have no love or dedication for either man.. BUT what I do have 'love' for is the truth..
Then, I hope you find truth.
"I've even suggested that we follow the constitution." First off by making a broad brush stroke subjective interpretation of "all" our comments on this thread you reveal yourself to be an IsraelFirster ringer. Secondly anyone who talks about an "organic" defeat of Western nations by Islam is an idiot. Thirdly anyone who wets his diaper about Sharia law's negative effects on Americans is a crackpot - that's like worrying about Talamudic Law over taking us - ooops... Fourthly, why don't you peddle your Zionist pap at more receptive forums like freaker republic or el pitiful?
.. as do I. What I do know is .. that the neocons want a war with Iran..as they do with other middle eastern countries .. that Ahmadinejad's words were mistranslated. And I know that another war is not in our best interest.. and that Iran is no threat to us.. these things are based upon evidence not on emotion..
I did take a close listen to that discussion and after hearing Mr. Herzog describe Mr. Ahmadinejad as a "visionary" numerous times, I still don't trust the president of Iran. For the past few weeks I've listened to Michael Herzog's broadcasts almost daily. He does do a great job of presenting a conspiracy theory approach to virtually every area of life in which U.S. citizens should be concerned about loss of liberty, poor government, bad foreign policy etc. Thank you very much for the link!!! I hope many more of our patriots read this post and check out Michael Herzog's radio show or download mp3 copies of his show!!!
"I've even suggested that we follow the constitution."bttt
#2. To: Liberate Jim Traficant (#0)
I urge the American people to reject these lies, to not be manipulated by them. To truly defend the interests of America, not the interests of Israel, Iran or any other country!
#3. To: Liberate Jim Traficant (#0)
(Edited)
Ahmadinejad, David Duke
"I believe in spreading democracy, not with guns but rather by example."
- Dr. Ron Paul
#4. To: tzf90 (#3)
The fulfillment of the prophesies concerning latter day Israel will not be pleasant.
#5. To: tzf90 (#3)
I smell a rat.
#6. To: scrapper2 (#5)
The rat I smell is David Duke. Come on - David Duke is "on the payroll" or else someone has got some scary nasty blackmail stuff hanging over Duke's head to make him behave so predictably.
- at least Ahmadinejad doesn't haul off and plow into other defenseless sovereign nations at his whim.
Let's face it...what kind of people are attracted to politics except for lying power grubbing weasels?
- Benjamine A. Rooge
"I believe in spreading democracy, not with guns but rather by example."
- Dr. Ron Paul
#7. To: scrapper2 (#5)
Ahmadinejad is a pathological liar
#8. To: Liberate Jim Traficant (#0)
Why is the Holocaust brought up almost every day in the press, over 60 years after the war? He suggests that there are political reasons for this, that the Holocaust is used to justify Zionist crimes against millions of Palestinians and other Middle easterners.
#9. To: Paul Revere (#8)
#10. To: Paul Revere (#8)
If you ever needed proof that the Likudies were running our major media,
#11. To: Cynicom (#10)
#12. To: Paul Revere (#11)
The creation of Israel in response was illogical and unwarranted. It was a mistake, one we have to live with every day now.
#13. To: angle (#7)
Ahmadinejad is a pathological liar Geez, I don't see that
#14. To: tzf90, scrapper2 (#3)
#15. To: tzf90 (#3)
#16. To: tzf90 (#6)
I think Ahmadinejad does have a nuclear bomb ego and will covertly supply anyone willing to harm Israel.
#17. To: tzf90 (#3)
(Edited)
The long - is that God will allow the nations to align against Israel and Judah. Things are going to get very bad for us in the future. The fulfillment of the prophesies concerning latter day Israel will not be pleasant
#18. To: christine (#15)
what's to disagree with in Duke's commentary here? in your opinion, where is he deceived?
Once more the Zionist-controlled media in America deluges the American public with lies about Iran’s President, Ahmadinejad.
- snip -To create this war they[Zionist-controlled media] must create a monster. They must turn the rather soft-spoken Ahmadinejad into a fire-breathing threat.
- snip -
"I believe in spreading democracy, not with guns but rather by example."
- Dr. Ron Paul
#19. To: christine (#14)
Michael Herzog did a good show yesterday discussing Ahmadinejad's speech at Columbia. If you have the time, you can listen to the archived show here:
"I believe in spreading democracy, not with guns but rather by example."
- Dr. Ron Paul
#20. To: Paul Revere (#11)
The creation of Israel in response was illogical and unwarranted. It was a mistake, one we have to live with every day now.
#21. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#17)
You really should try to base your politics on something other than 2-3000 year old myths scribbled by Hebrew goatherds.
"I believe in spreading democracy, not with guns but rather by example."
- Dr. Ron Paul
#22. To: tzf90 (#21)
(Edited)
#23. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#17)
You really should try to base your politics on something other than 2-3000 year old myths scribbled by Hebrew goatherds.
#24. To: scrapper2 (#13)
I agree with you.
#25. To: christine (#14)
Michael Herzog did a good show yesterday discussing Ahmadinejad's speech at Columbia. If you have the time, you can listen to the archived show here:
Published: 01.23.07, 22:24 / Israel News
"I believe in spreading democracy, not with guns but rather by example."
- Dr. Ron Paul
#26. To: tzf90 (#25)
I think Ahmadinejad is just waiting for Muslims to take over the world organically. A quote from his page on wikipedia -
#27. To: Zipporah (#26)
I would take anything from Wikipedia with a grain of salt
#28. To: tzf90 (#25)
Below I quote a short story from an Israeli news site -
#29. To: Dakmar (#27)
#30. To: christine, tzf90 (#28)
(Edited)
" i believe it's been proven that this is not true. the American and Israeli news have purposefully mistranslated what he actually said."
Lost in translation
The New York Times's Ethan Bronner and Nazila Fathi, one of the paper's Tehran staff, make a more serious case. They consulted several sources in Tehran. "Sohrab Mahdavi, one of Iran's most prominent translators, and Siamak Namazi, managing director of a Tehran consulting firm, who is bilingual, both say 'wipe off' or 'wipe away' is more accurate than 'vanish' because the Persian verb is active and transitive," Bronner writes.
If the Iranian president made a mistake and used "safheh" rather than "sahneh", that is of little moment. A native English speaker could equally confuse "stage of history" with "page of history". The significant issue is that both phrases refer to time rather than place. As I wrote in my original post, the Iranian president was expressing a vague wish for the future. He was not threatening an Iranian-initiated war to remove Israeli control over Jerusalem.
#31. To: christine (#28)
and has recently added the US and Britain to the list of countries he says will be destroyed.
#32. To: tzf90 (#25)
#33. To: scrapper2 (#5)
Therefore, anytime David Duke defends or endorses someone, the result is that it's like a Kiss of Death for credibility/legitimacy.
#34. To: all (#0)
"I believe in spreading democracy, not with guns but rather by example."
- Dr. Ron Paul
#35. To: tzf90 (#34)
I'll do my best to refrain from causing rain on your Ahmadinejad / David Duke parade.
#36. To: Zipporah (#35)
I have no love or dedication for either man.. BUT what I do have 'love' for is the truth..
"I believe in spreading democracy, not with guns but rather by example."
- Dr. Ron Paul
#37. To: tzf90 (#34)
I'll do my best to refrain from causing rain on your Ahmadinejad / David Duke parade.
#38. To: tzf90 (#36)
Then, I hope you find truth.
#39. To: christine, all (#14)
Michael Herzog did a good show yesterday discussing Ahmadinejad's speech at Columbia. If you have the time, you can listen to the archived show here:
"I believe in spreading democracy, not with guns but rather by example."
- Dr. Ron Paul
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