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Title: Hispanics struggle with state testing scores
Source: Gazette-Times
URL Source: http://www.gtconnect.com/articles/2 ... 05/31/news/oregon/tueore03.txt
Published: May 31, 2005
Author: AP
Post Date: 2005-05-31 22:47:42 by Mr Nuke Buzzcut
Keywords: Hispanics, struggle, testing
Views: 185
Comments: 14

Hispanics struggle with state testing scores

By The Associated Press

INDEPENDENCE — Hispanic students at Central High School take the same classes their non-Hispanic classmates do. But there, the similarity seems to end.

Of 200 Hispanic students, just 5 percent passed annual statewide tests last year, the raw statistics show.

The situation is as bad — or worse — across Oregon. All but about 35 of the 278 secondary schools failed to teach their Hispanic students up to federal standards in reading and math.

"You can't deny the numbers," said State Schools Superintendent Susan Castillo. "It's awful. The gap at the high school level is very serious.''

The disparity can't be ignored since Congress passed the 2001 No Child Left Behind law, which requires schools to publish their test scores by ethnicity.

The questions of whether Hispanics are less capable, and if not why aren't they doing better, are becoming tougher to duck.

At Central, the problems range from language gaps to a disconnect between the school and parents to a voluntary segregation among students.

English literacy problems that begin in elementary school end with a jolt when Hispanic kids hit high school, said Ignacio Robles, a former assistant principal at Central.

It used to be that elementary teachers followed their own systems when teaching students to read, said Jane Murch, who taught for decades at Henry Hill Elementary School.

At Talmadge Middle School in Independence, Spanish-speaking students learn to communicate with their teachers, but that's not sufficient to prepare them for the rigors of high school, former Talmadge teacher Kira Daczewitz said.

"We don't necessarily teach them to speak and write very formally sometimes," she said. "Their exposure to academic English is much smaller than their exposure to informal English."

Teachers say when the kids are old enough, many just leave.

Central High translates the notes that are sent home to Spanish-speaking parents, but the papers don't always arrive home.

Central tried to forge a closer relationship with parents by holding monthly parents' nights, complete with Spanish-language interpreters. But that was scrapped after four years when few people attended.

"What we have found is not all Hispanic parents value education," Principal Sylvia Warren said.

"The kids are taken out of school to be used as translators. They're taken out of school to baby-sit younger brothers and sisters. Attendance of a lot of our Hispanic kids is bad.

"Some of it's just cultural: the extended family where you take care of the young ones.

"That's not a cultural fact in the Anglo community. You get a baby sitter," she said.

"Going to Mexico to visit family is more important than being in school. We don't think of it that way; we think, ‘OK, we'll go in the summer.' Well, they have to work in the summer. This is the only time when they don't lose income. Family is very important; therefore, it's more important than education."

Some students The Statesman Journal newspaper interviewed at age 10 and again at age 18 say some Central High teachers are out of patience with Hispanic students.

"It's like they don't expect you to do as good," said Angie Coronado, a Central High senior who will graduate on Friday. "It's like they get frustrated with us. It's like they don't like being around us."

Part of the frustration comes from budget cuts, Central teacher Paul Wendring said. How does a teacher form a relationship with 30 students in a 50-minute class? he asked.

Central will face state-sanctioned change that could mean even a state take-over in the fall if the spring student test scores don't improve.

District administrators have prepared a plan. The high school, for example, will offer summer school for free this year. Next year, Spanish-speaking students will be able to earn credit by completing self-study packets written in Spanish.


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#1. To: Mr Nuke Buzzcut (#0)

Give the tests in Spanglish?

Pick up on my weesa, she is so divine, helps me stealing hub caps, wasted all the time.

MUDDOG  posted on  2005-05-31   22:55:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Mr Nuke Buzzcut (#0)

"What we have found is not all Hispanic parents value education," Principal Sylvia Warren said.

I see several grueling diversity training sessions in Sylvia's future.

"Some of it's just cultural: the extended family where you take care of the young ones.

"That's not a cultural fact in the Anglo community. You get a baby sitter,"

Which set of behaviors bestows the biggest competitive advantage is an open question.

They are vulnerable because they have small families.

Thomas Jefferson explains Blue America:
"The mobs of great cities add just so much to the support of pure government, as sores do to the strength of the human body."

Tauzero  posted on  2005-06-01   15:21:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Mr Nuke Buzzcut (#0)

"You can't deny the numbers," said State Schools Superintendent Susan Castillo. "It's awful. The gap at the high school level is very serious.''

The disparity can't be ignored since Congress passed the 2001 No Child Left Behind law, which requires schools to publish their test scores by ethnicity.

The questions of whether Hispanics are less capable, and if not why aren't they doing better, are becoming tougher to duck.

When we were doing testing at a local grade school, there were several hispanic children..being tested. These are kindergartners.. the test had to be given individually to the children. The hispanic children did so very poorly .. they were so far behind the other children even the ones who were very behind.. they weren't anywhere near ready to learn to read.. or write.. I would point to a letter and ask what them to tell me what letter it was.. I would get answers like 7.. 5.. very sad.

Make hay not war

Zipporah  posted on  2005-06-01   20:28:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Mr Nuke Buzzcut (#0)

Of 200 Hispanic students, just 5 percent passed annual statewide tests last year

Who says Mexicans are stupid?


Yez, Baaz!

Flintlock  posted on  2005-06-01   20:31:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Flintlock (#4)

Of 200 Hispanic students, just 5 percent passed annual statewide tests last year

Who says Mexicans are stupid?

They're not stupid. I think they were trying to write out the test answers with spray cans. This slowed them down and made the exams difficult to grade accurately, expecially the multiple choice questions.

crack monkey  posted on  2005-06-01   20:38:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Mr Nuke Buzzcut (#0)

The disparity can't be ignored since Congress passed the 2001 No Child Left Behind law, which requires schools to publish their test scores by ethnicity.

And there lies the problem. If you were to teach them as students, not hyphenated students, they might learn something.

I also think they need to stop social promotion and start having a few more 18 year old 4th graders. Get the parents involved and if they won't make their children do their homework and study, either pull the kids from the school becuase they are hurting those that want to learn, or charge them with neglect.

82Marine89  posted on  2005-06-01   20:39:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: crack monkey (#5)

They're not stupid.

Really?

About a week ago I went into a large chain store to buy something.

My total can to $9.92 so I gave the guy (lets call him Pedro) a 10 spot. I then gave Pedro 2 pennies but he had already punched the 10 bucks into the computer and couldn't figure out why I gave him the 2 cents.

When I told him I wanted a dime back instead of more pennies he thought I was trying to cheat him.


Yez, Baaz!

Flintlock  posted on  2005-06-01   21:00:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Flintlock (#7)

When I told him I wanted a dime back instead of more pennies he thought I was trying to cheat him.

You're obviously a racist.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2005-06-01   21:02:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Jethro Tull (#8)

You're obviously a racist.

I love the little brown retards, I really do.


Yez, Baaz!

Flintlock  posted on  2005-06-01   21:05:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Flintlock (#9)

82Marine89  posted on  2005-06-01   21:20:21 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Flintlock (#7)

My total can to $9.92 so I gave the guy (lets call him Pedro) a 10 spot. I then gave Pedro 2 pennies but he had already punched the 10 bucks into the computer and couldn't figure out why I gave him the 2 cents.

When I told him I wanted a dime back instead of more pennies he thought I was trying to cheat him.

That's because he was trying to do math on a computer. He was out of his element. He probably could have worked out the answer in a flash with a can of spray paint and an underpass wall to write on.

crack monkey  posted on  2005-06-01   21:35:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: crack monkey (#11)

That's because he was trying to do math on a computer. He was out of his element. He probably could have worked out the answer in a flash with a can of spray paint and an underpass wall to write on.

Little Pedro isn't all that stupid. He can convert grams to ounces. He can perform complicated chemistry experiments - like cooking meth. He can read/write complex graffiti and gang sign languages. He is an electronics genius - when overriding theft alarms and hotwiring automobiles. Little Pedro has proven he can learn. He just isn't interested in learning the things that you and I find valuable in modern society.

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Mr Nuke Buzzcut  posted on  2005-06-01   21:44:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: crack monkey (#11)

He probably could have worked out the answer in a flash with a can of spray paint and an underpass wall to write on.

Yes, or if he could have put it in everyday (for him) terms he could easily understand, i.e.

Juan has 3 sisters and 2 half sisters. If he sells the sisters for 10 pesos each but only gets half price for the half sisters, how much spray paint can Juan steal if he has to pay the lookout 6 pesos a can?


Yez, Baaz!

Flintlock  posted on  2005-06-01   21:48:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Mr Nuke Buzzcut (#12)

He can convert grams to ounces.

Very easy

He can perform complicated chemistry experiments - like cooking meth.

Cooking meth is easy, why do you think they can do it?

He can read/write complex graffiti and gang sign languages.

Again, very easy once they show you the easy code.

He is an electronics genius - when overriding theft alarms and hotwiring automobiles.

Ripping off cars is easy, as is disabling most car alarms.

Little Pedro has proven he can learn.

Little Pedro is a nitwit, spend some time in Latin America to see their handiwork for yourself.


Yez, Baaz!

Flintlock  posted on  2005-06-01   21:59:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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