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Title: HATE BILL PASSES!
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://www.truthtellers.org/alerts/hatebillpasses.htm
Published: Sep 27, 2007
Author: Rev. Ted Pike
Post Date: 2007-09-27 19:01:29 by AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt
Keywords: Israel/Zionism, Dead Constitution, Christianity
Views: 322
Comments: 24

HATE BILL PASSES!

By Rev. Ted Pike 27 Sep 07

By a vote of 60 to 39 this morning, Sens. Kennedy and Smith’s hate crimes amendment was attached to the defense authorization act. After three days of virtual silence, several Republican senators spoke against the bill within the two hours of debate. Sen. Lindsey Graham briefly argued that, if passed, the President will veto the hate bill and arms bill together, jeopardizing timely support of our troops. Sen. Jeff Sessions contended that states are adequately dealing with hate crimes and that Kennedy’s amendment burdens the defense authorization bill. Senate majority leader Mitch McConnell, arriving after the debate, was allowed to very briefly state that a hate bill was irrelevant to an arms bill.

The real hero of the day was Sen. Orrin Hatch. Yesterday he stood alone among Republicans to publicly oppose the hate bill. But today he spoke three times with powerful, logical, legal, and constitutional reasons why the hate bill is redundant to state law enforcement, which adequately deals with all kinds of violent crime. He said that gender identity, as put forth in this legislation, is unclear. Its definition depends on the subjective perceptions of both the hate criminal and the victim. He offered his own amendment (which was later passed unanimously) calling for the federal government to authorize studies to determine if states are adequately enforcing hate crimes laws.

Remarkably, Sen. Byrd of West Virginia , habitual supporter of the hate bill, voted against it. If only one more pro-hate bill Senator, Democrat or Republican, had been persuaded, either by massive calling during the last week or by impassioned attack of the hate bill on the floor of the Senate, the hate bill would have been destroyed in this Congress. It would have to be resubmitted in the next Congress under the stigma of having been rejected six times. Yes, the President has promised to veto today’s hate bill victory. But at the same time, the hate bill, through passage now by both House and Senate, is energized and dignified as never before to be easily ratified in the next Congress, little more than a year from now.

Credit for hate bill victory must largely go to the repeated impassioned speeches by Sens. Kennedy and Smith, but leaders of the religious right and Republican senators are, by default, just as responsible. Since the defense appropriations act was introduced 16 days ago, opening the possibility of hate bill attachment, there has been an astonishing lack of consistent warning from leaders of the religious right. This has grown even more acute since Monday, with a virtual blackout of warning from all new right websites (See, Do New Right Leaders Want Hate Bill Passed? and Hate Bill Ready for a Vote). As a result, the millions of calls which might have been generated amounted to a relative trickle. Only at the last minute, yesterday, when it became virtually impossible to influence today’s Senate vote, did new right leaders send out calls to action.

Such dereliction of duty was reflected on the floor of the Senate this week by the silence of Senators well known to oppose hate laws. Day after day they ignored invitations to speak to the Senate against the hate bill.

Both new right leaders and Republican senators represent themselves as watchmen on the wall, guardians of our freedom. Yet God told the prophet Ezekiel that if, as such a watchman, he knew the enemy was coming and yet did not sound the alarm, he would lose his eternal soul (Ez. 33)

For the past several weeks, both Christian and Republican leaders have seen the enemy coming. Yet they did not sound the alarm in a timely and effective way. For this they will have to answer to their Creator. Meanwhile, all Americans now are very, very much closer to having to answer to the federal “thought police” for every idle word that is not politically correct.


Sen. Lindsey Graham briefly argued that, if passed, the President will veto the hate bill and arms bill together, jeopardizing timely support of our troops.

B'rer Bush: "Please, please, don't throw me into that briar patch, Komrades."

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#8. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, *Hasbarfa Alert* (#0) (Edited)

Should be going into high gear just about the time of the AIPAC espionage trials in early January...

ADL

Letters to the Editor Chicago Sun-Times September 10, 2007

To the Editor:

Intent - targeting a victim because of his or her status - is what distinguishes a hate crime from other crimes. It is when Mary Mitchell ("Hate crime: It's not black or white but gray", Sept. 9, 2007) suggests that this is a problem that she goes astray.

It is not a matter of looking into someone's heart; it is a matter of analyzing evidence. Prosecutors are well-trained to evaluate a perpetrator's intent: They have to do so for many different kinds of crimes. For example, it is intent that distinguishes murder from manslaughter, and negligence from purposeful harm. Sincerely,

Lonnie Nasatir ADL Director, Greater Chicago/Upper Midwest Region

Clare Pinkert ADL Midwest Area Civil Rights Counsel

Eoghan  posted on  2007-09-27   21:45:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Eoghan (#8) (Edited)

Prosecutors are well-trained to evaluate a perpetrator's intent

And will the prosecutors be trained ( brain washed)to put a greater value on one individual's life over another's depending one whether or not they are affliated with a "special" group that society values more dearly? Is this what our justice system has devolved to - state sanctioned justice for some more so than others.

If dubya does not veto this Bill our nation is headed into the tall grass way far away from what the Founders envisioned.

scrapper2  posted on  2007-09-27   21:57:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: scrapper2 (#9)

And will the prosecutors be trained ( brain washed)to put a greater value on one individual's life over another's depending one whether or not they are affliated with a "special" group that society values more dearly? Is this what our justice system has devolved to - state sanctioned justice for some more so than others.

Well, that's their plan....

"... If a heathen smites a Jew, he is worthy of death . . . He who smites an Israelite on the jaw, is as though he had thus assaulted the Divine Presence; for it is written, 'One who smiteth man [I.e., an Israelite] attacketh the Holy One.' (Sanhedrin, 58b.)

A Jew -- any Jew -- is the Divine Presence, the Holy One. Get it?..."

Merry Christmas, AND OFF WITH YOUR HEAD!

http://www.public-action.com/christmas.html

"UPON SEIZING THE REINS OF GOVERNMENT......Jewish courts ... will be granted full legal sovereignty over Jewish citizens within each country, who will no longer be subject to the authority of gentile courts.

The pre-existing Noachide judges and courts will replace the existing court system of each country, and the legal code will be drastically rewritten to conform to halacha....[Jewish law]

http://www.cephas-library.com/nwo/nwo_noachide_judge_and_courts_will_replace_ours.html

Now that they have the law, they just have to tweak it to outlaw Christianity....

...."The emotion of hate is an unfortunate reality of the human experience. But it is not a crime unless accompanied by a criminal action – and even then it is the action that is within the police power of the government, not the emotion." he said. "The reality is that 'hate' crime laws are designed to punish people for what they think, feel, or believe."

And even more problematic, he said, is the inclusion of a definition of 'hate crime' from section 280003(a) of the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994. "There is legitimate concern that once Congress makes any 'hate' crime a federal offense, the categories of crime will expand to include speech that causes someone to 'feel' intimidated, just as they have in other places such as Australia, Canada, and Sweden," he said.

Lavy's analysis noted that in New Jersey already it is a "hate crime" to communicate in a manner likely to cause "annoyance or alarm." ....

Christians in bull's-eye in new 'hate crimes' plan Congress working to create penalties for non-PC views Posted: April 26, 2007

see the poster of Jesus Christ, WANTED for violation of the proposed hate crimes law......

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55392

U.S. State Department Says New Testament Is "Anti-Semitic"? [and so is anyone who is anti-Zionist state. http://www.rense.com/general67/state.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2007-09-28   0:16:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#17)

the categories of crime will expand to include speech that causes someone to 'feel' intimidated, just as they have in other places such as Australia, Canada, and Sweden," he said.

Lavy's analysis noted that in New Jersey already it is a "hate crime" to communicate in a manner likely to cause "annoyance or alarm." ....

See, there's where foxieloxie reaches a stumbling block - the US enshrined rights - to freedom of expression and freedom of association with no interference from gov't - which nations like Aussieland and Kanata constitutions do not specifically enshrine as rights for their citizens.

New jersey can pass whatever law it wants but the first time some one cares to challenge a New Jersey law which encroaches on constitutionally enshrined rights for the individual - New Jersey loses.

Not to say that we should be content that foxieloxie is permanently blocked - the enemy of Americans' freedoms never sleeps and neither do the enemy's gov't agents - but for a good long time I'd wager that foxieloxie has been checkmated by the Founding Fathers.

scrapper2  posted on  2007-09-28   0:28:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: scrapper2 (#18)

New jersey can pass whatever law it wants but the first time some one cares to challenge a New Jersey law which encroaches on constitutionally enshrined rights for the individual - New Jersey loses.

The same court that legalized the murder of unborn babies (sacrifices to their god), legalized slavery (stating that blacks were 3/5 human) will also determine the legitimacy of "hate" crimes if that's what they're told to do. Keep in mind, forced integration, bussing, and the continuing invasion of federal rats with Supreme Court approval, before you think that New Jersey loses.

The Supremes ain't gonna halt the feds, they are the feds ... it's up to us.

noone222  posted on  2007-09-28   7:37:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: noone222 (#22) (Edited)

The Supremes ain't gonna halt the feds, they are the feds ... it's up to us.

I know you meant to include God in that statement.....

With such a background, it is becoming clear that the prediction of Isaac in Genesis 27:40, (last line) made to a whining Esau, complaining at having lost both birthright and blessing...Isaac tells him that he will live by the sword and serve his brother, Jacob, but, here is where we are today: "...it shall come to pass when thou shalt have the dominion that thou shalt break his yoke from off they neck." Esau has removed that yoke, in fact the Yoke now is around the neck of Jacob...a second time, as was also forecast in many Biblical references, by God...

[of course, Christians are Jacob/Israel]

http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Rom/9/8.html

...and God said HE will remove our yoke

http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Jer/Jer030.html#8

http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Jer/30/8.html

http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Isa/10/27.html

http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Eze/Eze039.html#21 , whole chapter; Ezekiel 38 as well.

But you are correct, He doesn't expect we will just [sit] around on our duffs:

http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Mic/4/13.html

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2007-09-28   13:51:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#24. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#23)

The Supremes ain't gonna halt the feds, they are the feds ... it's up to us.

I know you meant to include God in that statement.....

Yeah, I'm just gonna keep em busy til He shows up !

noone222  posted on  2007-09-30 21:06:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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