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Title: Security guards break girl's wrist for spilling cake, arrest mother, student who videotaped them
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Published: Sep 28, 2007
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School security guards in Palmdale, CA have been caught on camera assaulting a 16-year-old girl and breaking her arm after she spilled some cake during lunch and left some crumbs on the floor after cleaning it up. The incident occurred last week at Knight High School in Palmdale and was caught on a cell phone camera by another pupil who was then also assaulted by the security guards. Watch video of the incident here and here. The girl, Pleajhai Mervin, told Fox News LA that she was bumped while queuing for lunch and dropped the cake. After being ordered to clean it up and then re-clean the spot three times, she attempted to leave the area out of embarrassment but was jumped on by security who forced her onto a table, breaking her wrist in the process. Pleajhai also says that the security guard in the picture yelled "hold still nappy-head" at her, which at the time she did not know was a racist comment. (Article continues below) In an even more shocking development the security guards later had the mother of the girl arrested after she sought out an attorney and demanded that the guard be arrested, telling her that if she wanted the guard detained then she herself would also be charged with battery after she allegedly pushed the guard and an assistant principal of the school. She has also been suspended from her job at another school in the county. The school expelled Pleajhai for five days before then having her arrested for battery and for littering (the dropping of the cake). Then they had the pupil who captured the video arrested along with his sister who was merely present at the scene. A walkout is planned for this morning by some students, after which the protesters will call for the firing of the main security guard involved. The incident serves as another unbelievable case in the wave of police brutality sweeping the country. In recent days we have covered multiple incidents of this nature and have compiled them into a page which will no doubt be added to in the months to come. Commentators have linked the increased cases of brutality with a post 9/11 mentality in America where civil liberties have been totally diminished and the anointed "authorities" simply consider themselves above the law. Former Reagan government official Paul Craig Roberts, for instance, has succinctly described the mentality as having turned "an epidemic of US police brutality into a pandemic". The media reports linked above clearly sympathize with the girl and her mother but only because the girl "fully complied with the guards' orders". What on earth have things come to when children are being physically assaulted and arrested in schools by huge fat thugs 5 times their size for "not complying with orders"? Police and security officials are being trained that it's OK to beat, torture and taser anyone should they not answer their questions or comply with their every order. The "security" and well being of citizens is no longer the concern of these moronic hired beefbrains who revel in their false positions of power. Ask yourself, why is the security guy pictured above wearing shades indoors? Because it is part of the gang mentality of these idiots who think its cool to put the fear of life into small kids. Watch the video at the link. Outrageous. These thugs belong in jail.
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#33. To: Ferret Mike (#25)
You've had ample opportunity to address my points, but you choose to play the emotional, PC cards and feel superior for your "enlightenment". The fact is, the reason why we have armed guards in schools, ridiculous inner gun crime rates, newspapers that won't mention race or even describe suspects that were supposed to be on the lookout for, and why we pay a clerk behind bullet resistent glass for gasoline, teachers who won't discipline students and who can't teach students is because of the black crime wave. Now, we all know how far you went to prove yourself free of "racism". And, even when you avoid blacks to keep from getting killed you accept that and even apologize to them for their unfortunate circumstances, doubtless due to white racism. When the shit hits the fan your skin will be your uniform, and if you try to throw your arms around their necks and love up on them then you'll die. If they don't buy your bullshit PC politics, then, what do you want from me?
"Texans don't drink coffee?"__Alma Del Mar, Sr. in BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN
You have to cherry pick your facts to refute my points, because the truth is just too painful for you. And, because you've probably lived in CA all your life you think that if an enclave of all Mexicans borders the all black housing projects in WATTS, then that is an integrated neighborhood. Even if as you said South Central isn't all black, it is made up of neighborhoods that were once all black and are now become all Hispanic thanks to unchecked immigration. (with a great deal of regular bloodshed during the transition) They do not live together in peace, and there are no stable, peaceful mixed neighborhoods or any links for you to post that will even pretend that is the case. If a black strolls into East LA he is killed. If a Mexican strolls into Watts he will be murdered. Period. And your attempts to put a diverse happy face on the truth is really sad. You won't go to Watts or Compton after dark because they'll kill your white ass and steal your Martin Luther King tee shirt. And, most of the crimes during the King riots were looting. The real issue is, who starts riots and why? Who did they viciously attack for no reason and why? And who else but U.S. Rep. Maxine Waters would claim that the postal service is "racist" because they were too afraid to deliver welfare checks 4 days after the Rodney King "Celebrate Diversity In LA" riots? (I'll bet you agreed with her and called your congressman, huh?) And, your "economics be de cause of violence" is just so much horseshit. There are millions or desperately poor whites in this country and they don't riot. And, just to keep us docile (and to avoid overworking apologists like you and Flower Boy) the national media doesn't breathe a word about heinous crimes such as those committed by The Carr Bros. But, if blacks attack a white and get arrested, Jesse "the registered Republican & FBI snitch" Jackson uses non stop news coverage to whips blacks and sick, self hating, guilt ridden whites into a frenzy. And, after the LA riots and Hurricane Katrina, what else do the evil people in govt need to know? Blacks are too stupid to get out of the way of a Cat 5 hurricane, and then line up and wait for the freebies. 20 years from now they'll still be recovering victims, and the idea of "puttin' down that malt likka and fried chicken" and going to work, sacrificing and saving is unthinkable to them. And, in that same time span Asians who immigrated after the storm will have made fortunes and achieved independence. Some may even own stores and be murdered by blacks who despise them for selling goods in black ghettos. Of course if Korean merchants are murdered that won't trouble but, G_D help us all if robin gets upset when a Korean shoots a black who'd rather shoplift than work! Are the obscene black on white rape stats the result of economic deprivation? Will you apologize to a black if you are victimized? "I understand that HOUNDDAWG's racism made you so this, so you can pour bleach down my daughter's and my throat when you're done and believe me, I'll understand!" When CA politics reach their natural conclusion you celebrate openly gay cops like David Kalish. But, when he shows his true colors (I'm waiting to see yours) you end up with this. I'd trade a thousand fucked up CA whites for one Afrikaner. Not only are they educated as to the true nature of the black African, but they'd be a welcome addition to our gene pool. If you don't get out of that state you're going to wind up in a missionary pot or, sacrificed to some Aztec god. And, when you plead with them by saying, "But, I marched for ekwalitee! Please don't eat me!!!" they're going to laff their black asses off at your ignorance. The more you love them the more they believe that you're flaunting your economic advantage and therefore the financial means to be magnanimous. You believe that they want your love and they want the gold from your teeth and your daughter's pussy. "Oh, we bee da world, wee bee da chirlrin, Oh, we bee da ones who make a better place once we kill dem honkies...." HERE BE CANNIBALS- RECENT CANNIBALISM IN THE AFRICAN CONGO By the way, didn't you have an obligatory affair with a darkie in college? It was required to establish liberal bone fides when you were in school, wasn't it? If you didn't then you're a racist! If you did but won't admit it it now, well, that'll explain a lot.
"Texans don't drink coffee?"__Alma Del Mar, Sr. in BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN
We'd end up with beautiful and smart whites kids in one school, and ugly and stupid blacks in another. And, because white kids must be sacrificed on the altar of "ekwalitee" (another point that my critics have taught themselves not to consider lest they start thinking like a racist) that can't happen in America. Blacks will never be free as long as they can't grab white girls' asses and beat white boys unconscious as payback for fo' hunnerd yeers of opreshun!
"Texans don't drink coffee?"__Alma Del Mar, Sr. in BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN
I have never been a liberal. Our prisons are not full of middle-class Americans, economics always plays a part in crime rates. There are a great many peacefully integrated neighborhoods from San Francisco to San Diego. You don't like it, but that's the way it is.
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Right, old gay blacks don't riot. But 18 to 35 and on the down low? Look out sista! "QUOTE "I have never been a liberal. Our prisons are not full of middle-class Americans, economics always plays a part in crime rates. From the old Jim Crow Laws to today's polite discrimination there is evidence that Black-Americans (among other groups) have been disenfranchised to some extent" Well, if "economics" is a code word for "I'm greedy and immoral and I'll kill you over a dime bag" then I agree. And, your definition of middle class must be "a white person who wants to keep a job so she or he goes to bed early and gets to work on time". Blacks who do that find that they too can be part of the middle class. It ain't some secret handshake that white folks keep from them. It's just the unthinkably painful step of tellin' them other niggas to chill so he can get some sleep and please his white boss "in da mawnin"!. Apparently this is akin to treason in the black American victim culture. And the only remnants of Jim Crow are reverse discrimination against whites. Once the CA University System was forced to stop giving preferences to blacks and they had to compete on an equal academic footing their enrollment numbers plummeted. Well, I'm sorry but, I don't want to cross a bridge designed by an affirmative action college student with a dubious engineering degree. "He can't add but he sho' can dribble" is not just a racist remark. It's the truth. "You don't like it, but that's the way it is." "Mathematics is a white conspiracy to make the black man look bad!' Right on! WORD! Hell, the blacks I worked around (and occasionally with) who would work could barely get to work on time, and even then they arrived yawning with their shoe laces still untied because they weren't awake enough to use that much brain power, but they expected to be paid mechanics' wages just for being in the building. And, they were ready to physically assault any foreman who dared to suggest that they "act white" and be awake and on time, one indication of which is having their boots properly laced. And of course not one was ever fired for incompetence. They were all victims of "racism". Even those who will work demand the "right" to reject the European work ethic, and goddam anyone who tries to force them to work up to that standard. But, this is only true for American born blacks. Caribbean blacks have incomes roughly equivalent to whites while American blacks just can't seem to find the ladder of opportunity. This and other little factoids cause campus riots when David Horowitz pointed them out, because like you the defenders of African sloth could not refute it so anger was their response. Needless to say, the same blacks who can't find time to study have lots of time and energy for destroying the campus newspapers who dare print the truth. Don't you see that you're crippling them by letting them hear you make these lame ass excuses? In fact, your benevolence is just another form of racism because you believe they can't compete without you making allowances for their "economic deprivation" or some such horseshit. Any black who works hard and sacrifices (meaning save their money instead of buying dope, cars and consumer electronics) and who sleeps on the floor that they sweep when not working 18 hr days the way these Asians do will find that the ladder of opportunity will no longer elude them. For you to attempt to insulate them from the harsh truth about themselves while invoking the same European morals (or Christian love) that they categorically reject makes you a textbook liberal. (for instance, you equate economic stability with success, and expect less and apologize for those who don't achieve it. HOW RACIST OF YOU?) Of course if you don't think it will provide too much insight into your political schizophrenia (which I will use to further underscore your rank hypocrisy) I'd be interested in knowing why you don't consider yourself a liberal.
"Texans don't drink coffee?"__Alma Del Mar, Sr. in BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN
Alex Jones is discussing this now...I could swear I heard him say the guard that assaulted the girl was named 'Chris Neidemeyer'. Wasn't that son of a bitch shot by his own troops in VietNam? :-)
I'll take your word for it - trying to get my tax-crap together is jangling the nerves here...
Maybe his son. That was Doug Neidermeyer, I believe. I think he also owned the horse that died of a heart attack.
You're right...I actually felt sorry for the horse, though.
End of the quarter...former businessman sympathies bump.
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To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
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Help! Police! Help! Police! Help, it's the POLICE!
Were it only that - this is the whole ball of wax for '06 - it's beginning to get creative here. GAK
Gotta enjoy these racists who know what’s really wrong with our society, who love playing the race card, blaming blacks for pathologies associated with America. The fact is if we go on anecdotes alone, most blacks I’ve worked with have been honorable, conscientious and hard-working. I’ve seen a fair number of whites sleeping on the job, refusing to finish assigned tasks, gripe about nonsensical issues and avoid Monday when their favorite NFL team blew a Sunday game, even come to job interviews 10 minutes late wearing flip-flops. It seems like this “European work ethic” thing, in the decent sense, does not monopolize any one epidermal shade. People of any color who want to work will simply work. Period. Surely enough, the un-afflicted white trash who number in the millions living in rural areas (all the while presumably subscribing to this “European work ethic”), relatively free of constant police harassment as long as they drink Jack Daniels and pass out in their pickup trucks across rural America, have no real reason to riot. They’re not really the ones getting the employment doors shut in their faces in the big cities. They were able to get through the 50s and early 60s without segregated countertops and extra-judicial lynchings. And I think a trailer home in the boonies is probably an option that won’t really make one riot as opposed to dealing with urban slum lords and high rents concomitant with low wages (to suggest most poor blacks spend on “consumer goods?” Not the ones I’ve known and seen). Fishing is probably a nicer option out in redneck reserves. Politicized black folks of the latter 1960s once had peaceful political multi-point plans that included self-education, free breakfast for inner city children and independence from the corporate macroeconomics…until the FBI started subverting their movements. Freedom from chains and cotton fields did not mean freedom from poverty wages, slum lords, high rents, no child care, white prejudice during business loan interviews, limited career choices, no meaningful health care and other such things in the USA. The white power males who control finance and economy in the USA see that disgruntled blacks are a good source of cheap service sector labor, disfranchised intentionally in order to fuel the increasingly profitable prison industry while keeping wages down. They secretly chortle swigging their martinis while laughing at the neo-Nazis types though somewhat in strategic support of them. There is a stupidity on certain whiteasses who name themselves after a category of slow-witted canines to think racial lineage is the sole impetus for crime. Most blacks who are given the means to live in nice enough neighborhoods, provide for a decent education for their children will simply not light up neighborhoods, burn and overturn cars. But the racist history of the USA never provided that on a large scale for us to see. Hound Ass is quite stupid and useless generally espousing that blacks live to prey on whites. We could really do without that neo-Nazi shit. The US Department of Justice reports that 27 out of 1000 blacks were likely to be crime victims as opposed to 20 out of 1000 whites. 49% of blacks are just as likely to die of violent crime as white. Whites aren’t the only ones being victimized by violence. Indeed, economic hardship and socio-economic disenfranchisement is cause for demographic imbalances in certain crime stats. (Forget the fact that more white people in America use illicit drugs but blacks get more harassed and arrested for them!) Ah, those bad, bad black people. They are the cause of so much evil in the world, we are to believe. It’s not the black man that sent secret germs to affect the American populace in Tampa and San Francisco as well towns across Utah on behalf of the Department of Defense’s testing programs. It’s not really the black man’s idea for America to rape or subvert countries like the Philippines, Guatemala, Iraq, Colombia, El Salvador, Panama, Grenada, Japan and such for things like copper, bananas, pineapples, ores, oil and military bases. The black man did not institutionally train CIA-funded thugs like the Atlacatl and the AUC to massacre villages across Latin America harboring liberation priests, union leaders and dissenters. It’s not the black man who carpet-bombed a defenseless area like Vietnam in order to prop up corrupt post-colonial thugs, calling it “freedom and democracy.” It’s not the black man who assassinated a democratically-elected SECULAR leader in 1950s Iran in order to set the stage for today’s volatility in that region. It’s not the black man’s idea to repress wages across America, send jobs to India and China, squash labor unions, pollute the chain grocers with health killing additive foods. It certainly is not the black man’s idea to pay himself lesser wages and get rejected for business loans compared to whites while paying the same shitty prices. It was not the black man’s idea to produce torture manuals for use by CIA-funded terrorists in Nicaragua in the 1980s. It was not the black man who institutionally managed or aided the cocaine trade between the Contra-thugs and CIA-funded drug flights out of Honduras thus leading to a crack epidemic during that 1985 time frame when there was no such thing in America BEFORE the added Reaganite heat on the Sandinista government. Coincidence? Nah. Funny what the Leahy Amendment made covert US policy planners do in order to fund guns for Contra terrorists. It was not the black man that lorded over Enron, the Savings and Loan Scandals and all the subsequent subprime crap that was meant to ruin ordinary Americans in the long haul. It wasn’t the black man who invaded Holland, Belgium, Algeria, Norway, France, Greece, Poland, Russia and other nations in 1939-40 when millions of deaths were caused thereafter. I don’t believe the black man committed wholesale genocide in facilities such as Auschwitz and Dachau among other places. (Man, that “European work ethic” was really in full swing in those times.) But it sure as hell is the working black man’s taxes that pay for profitable General Electric bombs, Blackwater contracts, bank failure bailouts and Big Agriculture welfare subsidies and other such Rich White Men mechanisms. Hell, historically it wasn’t even the black man’s idea to come to the United States en masse!
Yo, mah nigga, yu sho tol' dat fukking white debbil da way it bee! Weeda dun it owselfs but as you kin see wee bee studying 4 our inglizh eksams so we kin gets in 2 Harvard an shit. And, Y don't you 'splain how cum Detroit has da mos' klamidia uf inny Merikan city? Dem white debbils bee plantin' dat shit jus' 2 make us mu fukkas luuk bad, U gno what I'm sayin? Y don' yu moov to deetroit, mah nigga? Dey ain't no jobz deah, so, you kin hang wid us all nite! We be proud to haf anotha jeenyus brutha dat can stand up to deez filthy wite debbils! An, if yu kin du rifmatik den we gotz a J-O-B-4-Y-U-2!
"I want to marry a white woman!"__SILAS LYNCH in BIRTH OF A NATION
Leftist whackjob. If it wasn't for the white man, blacks would still be living in mudstick huts in Africa, eating each other and dying of malaria -- stuck in 5000 B.C.
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How old do you think this picture is? But, robin say it all bee 'bout "economiks"! Remember, when Somalians were imported to Maine they brought their "cultural idiosyncrasies" with them!
"I want to marry a white woman!"__SILAS LYNCH in BIRTH OF A NATION
Weeda dun it owselfs but as you kin see wee bee studying 4 our inglizh eksams so we kin gets in 2 Harvard an shit. And, Y don't you 'splain how cum Detroit has da mos' klamidia uf inny Merikan city? Dem white debbils bee plantin' dat shit jus' 2 make us mu fukkas luuk bad, U gno what I'm sayin? Y don' yu moov to deetroit, mah nigga? Dey ain't no jobz deah, so, you kin hang wid us all nite! We be proud to haf anotha jeenyus brutha dat can stand up to deez filthy wite debbils! An, if yu kin du rifmatik den we gotz a J-O-B-4-Y-U-2! Man, that's just wrong. It's not honorable. There are many, many things wrong in the black subculture of America today. Girls and women having babies out of wedlock without regard to how they will support them. Boys and men thinking they are doing their fair share as fathers if they buy diapers once a week. Mothers and grandmothers who make excuses for their promiscuous daughters and their worthless sons. Leaders like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, old school schemers and exploiters. The lack of respect of education, and the lack of accountability in schools. These are all real and important issues, matters whose blame lies on Democrats who want to infantilize and use the votes of blacks, and Republicans who want to criminalize and prevent the votes of blacks. It is the fault of white racists who have made things difficult, and black racists who excuse away every failing of their community. It is the fault of all the whites who have been weak because they fear being seen as racist. All of these issues deserve honest discussion, but resorting to race based besmirchments is lame and uncalled for. I hope you'll take some time to reconsider your comments.
There are many, many things wrong in the black subculture of America today. Girls and women having babies out of wedlock without regard to how they will support them. Boys and men thinking they are doing their fair share as fathers if they buy diapers once a week. Mothers and grandmothers who make excuses for their promiscuous daughters and their worthless sons. Leaders like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, old school schemers and exploiters. The lack of respect of education, and the lack of accountability in schools. These are all real and important issues, matters whose blame lies on Democrats who want to infantilize and use the votes of blacks, and Republicans who want to criminalize and prevent the votes of blacks. It is the fault of white racists who have made things difficult, and black racists who excuse away every failing of their community. It is the fault of all the whites who have been weak because they fear being seen as racist. All of these issues deserve honest discussion, but resorting to race based besmirchments is lame and uncalled for. I hope you'll take some time to reconsider your comments. That was a heck of a post. Thanks.
Accuracy is not your forte, that is not an African. See the strand of straight hair falling over his left shoulder? Nevertheless, whatever his ethnicity, know that cannibalism is not unique to one people or race. Cannibalism has been discovered in all the continents, along with torture and any other kind of evil. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannibalism www.rotten.com/library/death/cannibalism/ www.crimelibrary.com/crim...hology/cannibalism/5.html No one could surpass Jolly Old England for uncivilized torture. www.torture-museum.com/tower.htm These "civilized" torture devices can be found in the Tower of London: Here are more recent allegations of govts that torture: Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today!
Must be black Irish then.
"I want to marry a white woman!"__SILAS LYNCH in BIRTH OF A NATION
Knowledge is power. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Irish I bought a car from a very charming 6'5" Irishman several years ago. While chatting about California sun, he told us he tanned well and blamed it on Portuguese sailors known to have landed in Ireland. The Iberian peninsula was home to the Moors for centuries. When they were finally expelled (read El Cid), the Spaniards were amazed at how pristine clean their dwellings were. A sharp contrast to their own at the time. Those enormous dark eyes of Antonio Banderas are probably thanks to a distant Arab past. Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today!
But, racism doesn't stop Caribbean blacks from earning incomes roughly equal to whites, and it doesn't stop Hispanics from crossing the border one day and starting to work the next, despite the fact that they are "victims" of "white racism and in many cases don't speak English. In two weeks they're sending money home, but in two generations blacks cultivate only one skill-whining about what whites owe them. And, Asians who immigrate are driving Mercedes in two years after opening businesses, despite the "racism" that only seems to cripple American born blacks. Your post made my point for me. You've underscored the fact that American blacks are their own worst enemy, and because other would be victims succeed it's no excuse for failure. A study at UC found that American blacks saw racism where other minorities didn't. They had to 'splain to other non whites why they were victims and didn't even know it! HAH! Now it was only three months ago that you explained to us that you say what you feel and make no apologies for it, and you resented being mistreated at other websites because you march to you own music, and that's why you came here. And NOW, you're finger fucking me with political correctness to earn brownie points with other chicken shit whites who are too afraid to speak the truth?? 10 Reasons Why Reparations For Blacks Are A Bad Idea For Blacks And Racist, Too 1. Assuming there is actually a debt, it is not at all clear who owes it. Tillman articulated the argument for the existence of the debt this way: "America owes blacks a debt because when we built this country on free labor ... wealth was handed down to the white community." Robinson reaches back in time even further: "Well before the birth of our country, Europe and the eventual United States perpetrated a heinous wrong against the peoples of Africa and benefited from the wrong through the continuing exploitation of Africa's human and material resources." To sustain this claim, Robinson's book devotes entire sections to the alleged depredations of whites against blacks hundreds and even thousands of years before the "eventual United States"—i.e., the government that is expected to pay the reparations—was even created. It is necessary to insert the qualifier "alleged" because, like so many who wave the bloody shirt, Robinson makes little effort to establish causal responsibilities, but invokes any suffering of blacks where whites were proximate as evidence that whites were to blame. Slavery itself is the most obvious example. It was not whites but black Africans who first enslaved their brothers and sisters. They were abetted by dark-skinned Arabs (since Robinson and his allies force us into this unpleasant mode of racial discourse) who organized the slave trade. Are reparations going to be assessed against the descendants of Africans and Arabs for their role in slavery? There were also 3,000 black slave owners in the antebellum United States. Are reparations to be paid by their descendants too? 2. The idea that only whites benefited from slavery is factually wrong and attitudinally racist. By accusing the U.S. government of crimes against black people in advance of its existence, Robinson reveals the ugly anti-white racism beneath the surface of many arguments for reparations, especially his. According to this line of reasoning, only white Americans are implicated in slavery, just as only whites are the presumed targets of the reparations payback. Both presumptions, however, are wrong. If slave labor created wealth for all Americans, then obviously it created wealth for black Americans as well, including the descendants of slaves. Free blacks in the antebellum United States surely benefited from the free labor of slaves, along with whites. Are they to be exempted from payment of the debt just because they are black? But if the "free labor" argument of the reparations claimants is correct, even the descendants of slaves have benefited from slavery. The GNP of black America (as black separatists constantly remind their followers) is so large that it makes the African-American community the 10th most prosperous "nation" in the world. To translate this into individual realities, American blacks on average enjoy per capita incomes in the range of 20 to 50 times those of blacks living in any of the African nations from which they were kidnapped. What about this benefit of slavery? Are the reparations proponents going to make black descendants of slaves pay themselves for benefiting from the fruits of their ancestors' servitude? 3. In terms of lineal responsibility for slavery, only a tiny minority of Americans ever owned slaves. This is true even for those who lived in the antebellum South, where only one white in five was a slaveholder. Why should the descendants of non-slaveholding whites owe a debt? What about the descendants of the 350,000 Union soldiers who died to free the slaves? They gave their lives. What possible morality would ask them to pay (through their descendants) again? 4. Most Americans living today (white and otherwise) are the descendants of post-Civil War immigrants, who have no lineal connection to slavery at all. The two great waves of American immigration occurred after 1880 and after 1960. Is there an argument worth considering that would, for example, make Jews (who were cowering in the ghettos of Europe at the time) or Mexicans and Cubans (who were suffering under the heel of Spain) responsible for this crime? What reason could there be that Vietnamese boat people, Russian refuseniks, Iranian refugees, Armenian victims of the Turks or Greek, Polish, Hungarian and Korean victims of communism should pay reparations to American blacks? There is no reason, and no proponent of reparations has even bothered to come up with one. 5. The historical precedents generally invoked to justify the reparations claim—that Jews and Japanese-Americans received reparations from Germany and the United States, respectively—are spurious. The circumstances involved bear no resemblance to the situation of American blacks, and are not really precedents at all. The Jews and Japanese who received reparations were individuals who actually suffered the hurt. Jews do not receive reparations from Germany simply because they are Jews. Those who do were corralled into concentration camps and lost immediate family members or personal property. Nor have all Japanese-Americans received payments, but only those whom the government interned in camps and who had their property confiscated. The reparations claims being advanced by black leaders seem to imply that the only qualification required for reparations is the color of one's skin. Robinson's book is pointedly subtitled "What America Owes to Blacks." If this is not racism, what is? 6. Behind the reparations arguments lies the unfounded claim that all blacks in America suffer economically from the consequences of slavery and discrimination. It would seem a hard case to prove over a 150-year (or even 50-year) gap, and the only evidence really offered by the claimants is the existence of contemporary "income disparities" and "inequalities" between the races. No actual connection (as far as they're concerned) need be made. On the other hand, African-American success stories that contradict the conclusion are abruptly dismissed. Thus, to take the most obvious case, Oprah Winfrey may have been a sharecropper's daughter in the most segregated of all Southern states, but—victim of slavery and segregation or no—she was still able to become one of the 400 richest individuals in America on the strength of her appeal to white consumers. This extraordinary achievement, which refutes the reparations argument, is echoed in millions of other, more modest success stories, including those of all the prominent promoters of the reparations claim, even the unhappy Robinson. No wonder the only argument against these obvious counterfacts is that all successes must be exceptions to the (politically correct) rule. But the reality is that this black middle class—composed exclusively of descendants of slaves—is also a very prosperous middle class that is now larger in absolute terms than the black underclass, which is really the only segment of the black population that can be made to fit the case. Is this black middle-class majority—numbering millions of individuals—really just a collective exception of unusual people? Or does its existence not suggest that the failures of the black underclass are failures of individual character, hardly (if at all) impacted by the lingering aftereffects of racial discrimination, let alone a slave system that ceased to exist well over a century ago? West Indian blacks in America are also descended from slaves, but their average incomes are equivalent to the average incomes of whites (and nearly 25 percent higher than the average incomes of American-born blacks of all classes). How is it that slavery adversely affected one large group of descendants but not the other? And how can government be expected to decide an issue that is so subjective—yet so critical—to the case? The fact is that nobody has demonstrated any clearly defined causal connection between slavery or discrimination and the "disparities" that are alleged to require restitution. And how, by the way, are blue-collar whites and ethnics expected to understand their reparations payments to these African-American doctors, lawyers, executives and military officers who make up the black middle class? 7. The renewed sense of grievance—which is what the claim for reparations will inevitably create—is neither a constructive nor a helpful message for black leaders to be sending to their communities. Virtually every group that has sought refuge in America has grievances to remember. For millions of recent immigrants the suffering is only years behind them, and can be as serious as ethnic cleansing or genocide. How are these people going to receive the payment claims from African-Americans whose comparable suffering lies in the distant past? Won't they see this demand as just another claim for special treatment, for a rather extravagant new handout that is only necessary because some blacks can't seem to locate the ladder of opportunity within reach of others, many of whom are even less privileged than they are? Why can a penniless Mexican, who is here illegally and unable even to speak English, find work in America's inner cities while blacks cannot? Can 19th century slavery or even the segregation of 50 years ago really explain this? To focus the social passions of African-Americans on what some Americans did to their ancestors 50 or 150 years ago is to burden this community with a crippling sense of victimhood. It is also to create a new source of conflict with other communities. A young black intellectual wrote the following comments about reparations: "I think the reparations issue will be healthy. It will show all Americans (white, Hispanic, Asian) how much blacks contributed to helping build this country." Actually, as Robinson's book makes clear, what it will accomplish is just the opposite. It will provide black leaders with a platform from which to complain about all the negative aspects of black life -- to emphasize inner-city pathologies and failures, and to blame whites, Hispanics and Asians for causing them. How is this going to impress other communities? It's really just a prescription for sowing more racial resentment and creating even greater antagonism. 8. This raises a point that has previously remained off the radar screen, but will surely be part of the debate to come: What about the "reparations" to blacks that have already been paid? Since the passage of the Civil Rights Acts and the advent of the Great Society in 1965, trillions of dollars in transfer payments have been made to African-Americans, in the form of welfare benefits and racial preferences (in contracts, job placements and educational admissions) -- all under the rationale of redressing historical racial grievances. In fact, reparations advocates already have an answer to this argument, and it is a revealing one. Here is how Robinson refers to this massive gesture of generosity and contrition on the part of the white political majority in America during the past 35 years: "It was only in 1965 ... that the United States enacted the Voting Rights Act. Virtually simultaneously, however, it began to walk away from the social wreckage that centuries of white hegemony had wrought." Take that, white, Hispanic and Asian America! If a trillion-dollar restitution and a wholesale rewriting of American law and fundamental American principle in order to accommodate racial preferences and redress injustice are nothing, then what will fill the claimants' bill? 9. And this raises another question that black leaders might do well to reflect on: What about the debt blacks owe to America—to white Americans—for liberating them from slavery? This may not seem like a serious question to some, but that only reveals their ignorance of the history of slavery and its fate. Slavery existed for thousands of years before the Atlantic slave trade was born, in virtually all societies. But in the 1,000 years of its existence, there never was an anti-slavery movement until white Englishmen and Americans created one. If not for the anti-slavery attitudes and military power of white Englishmen and Americans, the slave trade would not have ended. If not for the sacrifices of white soldiers and a white American president who gave his life to sign the Emancipation Proclamation, blacks in America would have remained slaves indefinitely. If not for the dedication of Americans of all ethnicities and colors to a society based on the principle that all men are created equal, blacks in America would not enjoy the highest standard of living of blacks anywhere in the world, and indeed one of the highest standards of living of any people in the world. They would not enjoy the greatest freedoms and the most thoroughly protected individual rights. Where is the gratitude of black America and its leaders for those gifts? 10. The final and summary reason for rejecting any reparations claim is recognition of the enormous privileges black Americans enjoy as Americans, and therefore of their own stake in America's history, slavery and all. __________________________________________ So, if the enemy wants to shut you or robin down because you're a threat to the status quo all they would have to do is accuse you of mindless racism, and you'd hunker down and go into defensive mode. And at that point you'd cease to be a threat to them. You two wasteoids are worthless to the movement to save America, because the enemy can control you by triggering a lifetime of programmed white guilt reflexes. You saw that other asshole try to intimidate me with a "neo nazi" label? Well, he's in a full blown panic because those words no longer have the desired effect. Would you let someone shut you down by calling you an anti-Semite? Well, what's the difference? If truth is no defense to the charge then what does it matter if I fail to tippy toe around oh-so sensitive blacks and sick, weak whites? If they can argue (and you and robin agree) that "some people take the 1st amendment too far" (on a free speech board) then what would you say to them when they argue for anti hate speech laws that will be used to silence you? You dummies make sick. Especially you, robin. I knew when PR showed up that he's squirrelly, but I defended him when he was all twitchy from criticism, and I encouraged him to stay. And, now he's doing the same thing to me that he claims was done to him and that's why he came here in the first place! But, you, robin. You deliberately avoid any direct dialogue on specific points and throw up fairie dust that is supposed to pass for intelligent discussion. And, you compare the most evil whites in the history of the world to ordinary, garden variety urban blacks, and in your mind that's supposed to be a solid argument and fair commentary? You mentioned Irish gangs, but did you mention that those Irish immigrants were drafted and fought and died at Gettysburg but not one black American fought or died there? What debt did the Irish owe blacks? Do blacks owes the millions of whites who freed them anything? If not for whites there would never have been an abolitionist movement. I want blacks to be free and all that freedom entails, and you continue to make excuses for them and no doubt believe that they should be subsidized as "victims". And, are those Irish immigrants still claiming to be victims of discrimination (and they were indeed victims then) hundreds of years later? Do we have Great Society programs for permanent underclass "Irish victims"? No American has ever died from hearing the truth. But any white who dares speak it may be murdered, and you apparently approve of that sad state of affairs Blacks should be shamed for their ingratitude and obscene violence against the country that made them the healthiest, wealthiest best educated blacks in the world. Are whites supposed to be ashamed because there's no African space program? Instead of you insisting that their obvious shortcomings are not genetic, let them prove that. If the only way you can achieve "ekwalitee" and salve your guilt is by reducing the achievements and virtues of whites, then you're brain is no longer your own. Whites who do that are sick, and are then exploited by those who despise us. If you believe that inside every African American is a moral, literate white trying to get out then you are absolutely full of shit. Jefferson said, "Literacy is not a luxury, it's a moral condition." And, those who reject education and turn our schools into violent, scary places for our kids are our enemy, not our victims. Please pull your head out of your ass, okay?
"I want to marry a white woman!"__SILAS LYNCH in BIRTH OF A NATION
I'm happy with my previous post. I don't feel a need to repeat myself, or to attempt to respond to anything in your diatribe. I'll just say that Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot were not black. Neither was Hitler or Mussolini, and the only black leader in the Mideast the past 50 years was the best guy from the Mideast the past 50 years, Anwar Sadat. There are plenty of things wrong with the black community in the US, as I indicated. The reasons are multifarious, and there is blame to go around. Anyone who has known blacks from other countries knows that there is something uniquely defective about the American black community. Logic should tell us to look for why that is so, and should tell it's not genetic or inherent.
I'll stick with my previous posts too. Evil is universal, as I already posted.
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Hound Ass, That scene IS the solution by the white power males. It keeps blacks from good organization which really isn't good for the profit structure which in the end victimizes assholes like you as well as those "niggas" you pigeonhole. Why do you think REFORMED EX-black gang bangers who organize peacefully get in more trouble with cops than actual gang bangers who mug people for Reebok shoes? Why do you not get curious why big city police officers are interestingly protective of BIG TIME drug dealers while the smaller fish wind up on shit fascist shows like COPS? Because the white power males (read Gary Webb's refuted but never debunked Dark Alliance series, not to mention the testimony of former DEA Agents like Mike Levine, Susan Smith and Celerino Castillo) BROUGHT COCAINE FOR CRACK INTO THE USA. It served to destabilize the ability of black communities to correct themselves PEACEFULLY all the while squashing an undesirable Sandinista government in Nicaragua as to avoid having the money on the books). The white male power structure SENDS MEANINGFUL US JOBS OVERSEAS. Things get harder for ALL of US AMERICANS, REGARDLESS OF COLOR! If you cannot see the implications of just one aspect in this discourse, then you are an idiot in laying everything on black people per se. Figures a retard like you would use the picture of a probable Malay or Aboriginal outside the US to correlate with American blacks.
THE RACE WAR OF BLACK AGAINST WHITE Paul Sheehan From the Sydney Morning Herald, May 20, 1995 The longest war America has ever fought is the Dirty War, and it is not over. It has lasted 30 years so far and claimed more than 25 million victims. It has cost almost as many lives as the Vietnam War. It determined the result of last year's congressional election. Yet the American news media do not want to talk about the Dirty War, which remains between the lines and unreported. In fact, to even suggest that the war exists is to be discredited. So let's start suggesting, immediately. No matter how crime figures are massaged by those who want to acknowledge or dispute the existence of a Dirty War, there is nothing ambiguous about what the official statistics portray: for the past 30 years a large segment of black America has waged a war of violent retribution against white America. And the problem is getting worse, not better. In the past 20 years, violent crime has increased more than four times faster then the population. Young blacks (under 18) are more violent than previous generations and are 12 times more likely to be arrested for murder than young whites. Nearly all the following figures, which speak for themselves, have not been reported in America: * According to the latest US Department of Justice survey of crime victims, more than 6.6 million violent crimes (murder, rape, assault and robbery) are committed in the US each year, of which about 20 per cent, or 1.3 million, are inter-racial crimes. * Most victims of race crime – about 90 per cent – are white, according to the survey "Highlights from 20 Years of Surveying Crime Victims," published in 1993. * Almost 1 million white Americans were murdered, robbed, assaulted or raped by black Americans in 1992, compared with about 132,000 blacks who were murdered, robbed, assaulted or raped by whites, according to the same survey. * Blacks thus committed 7.5 times more violent inter-racial crimes than whites even though the black population is only one-seventh the size of the white population. When these figures are adjusted on a per capita basis, they reveal an extraordinary disparity: blacks are committing more than 50 times the number of violent crimes of whites. * According to the latest annual report on murder by the Federal Bureau of Investigation, most inter-racial murders involve black assailants and white victims, with blacks murdering whites at 18 times the rate that whites murder blacks. These breathtaking disparities began to emerge in the mid-1960s, when there was a sharp increase in black crime against whites, an upsurge which, not coincidentally, corresponds exactly with the beginning the modern civil rights movement. Over time, the cumulative effect has been staggering. Justice Department and FBI statistics indicate that between 1964 and 1994 more than 25 million violent inter-racial crimes were committed, overwhelmingly involving black offenders and white victims, and more than 45,000 people were killed in inter-racial murders. By comparison 58,000 Americans died in Vietnam, and 34,000 were killed in the Korean war. When non-violent crimes (burglary, larceny, car theft and personal theft) are included, the cumulative totals become prodigious. The Bureau of Justice Statistics says 27 million non-violent crimes were committed in the US in 1992, and the survey found that 31 per cent of the robberies involved black offenders and white victims (while only 2 per cent in the reverse). When all the crime figures are calculated, it appears that black Americans have commited at least 170 million crimes against white Americans in the past 30 years. It is the great defining disaster of American life and American ideals since World War II. All these are facts, yet by simply writing this story, by assembling the facts in this way, I would be deemed a racist by the American news media. It prefers to maintain a paternalistic* double-standard in its coverage of black America, a lower standard. ____________________________________ Imagine that America was involved in a declared thirty years war against a violent, bloodthirsty alien enemy who raped, murdered and poured bleach down the throats of their white victims because we didn't give them enough of our hard earned money after abolishing their former condition of servitude! (their freedom wasn't enough, you see. They won't compare themselves with Africans in other countries because that doesn't support their claims of victimization. They compare themselves to whites and then hate us because it's our fault that they're so ugly and stupid.) Now, ask yourself this: "Would these fucking mentally deranged whites as seen here dare to defend such an enemy?" As far as I can see none of these confused whites support gun control. But, how many of them know that Nelson "Pete" Shields co-founded HANDGUN CONTROL (with Dr. Mark Borinsky) after his son was murdered in CA by blacks in the infamous ZEBRA murders? Instead of targeting the racist blacks who committed the murder he decided to disarm law abiding whites, while he held a hard-to-get Delaware concealed carry permit to protect himself from the people he was attempting to disarm! Every time these assholes make excuses for black savages they lend credibility to the "solutions". If the problem isn't blacks themselves, then the solution must be elsewhere....like GUN CONTROL! " The gun control movement has been massively aided and abetted by the FBI and the CIA, in a way that exposes the proclivities of these institutions to protect the interests of the political and banking Establishment, far more than those of the nation. This aid has been in part indirect, through covering up the true causes of the assassinations and mass murders which lend legitimacy to calls for gun control. But there is direct intelligence community involvement, as well: Handgun Control, Inc. was founded by a 25-year veteran of the covert operations division of the Central Intelligence Agency." www.holysmoke.org/wb/wb0135.htm Just like the hypocrites of HANDGUN CONTROL these assholes would rather go to any lengths to avoid holding blacks to the same standards as whites. They'll avoid the cities and black areas at night, they'll white flight away again and again, but never allow themselves to see the truth, because to do so would mean that all of those movies, sitcoms and morality plays they grew up watching (like TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD and THE GHOSTS OF MISSISSIPPI) were programming them to despise their own and love those who hate them. This is no different than a jury that convicts an "income tax criminal" to avoid the discomfort of accepting that they were duped their whole lives. No different than what the Church did to Galileo, and it was 400 years later when Jimmy Carter was prez that The Church finally admitted that Galileo was right. If anyone expects me to wait until there is no danger of de-programming these sickos then they're they're going to get the feelings hurt. Just as the nation must wait until we're all dead to see the secret JFK assassination evidence and can only be spoken of in polite company when the guilty parties can no longer be held to answer for their crimes, so it is that the murderous war against whites must be defended by whites who actually believe that they arrived at their mental predispositions on their own! Have you noticed that not one of these assholes has discounted the lifetime of mental brainwashing and then said, "after removing that influence from my thought processes I then logically concluded that blacks are victims because...." These sick whites (some of whom even marry darkies to prove themselves free of "racism"-how fucked up is that?) will not even acknowledge the massive white guilt campaign against us. They won't allow for the possibility that there is more than one side to the story. "Nope. Blacks are oppressed. They're victims of white racism. They're not responsible even when they murder each other! That's right, fella. And, if you disagree then you're a bad person. All right thinking whites should give up their lives if necessary to make amends, and, I'll free OJ and any other black who is falsely accused by racist cops. I don't know who did it but I know it wasn't OJ!"
"I want to marry a white woman!"__SILAS LYNCH in BIRTH OF A NATION
One of the tabloids is running it out there that OJ's latest episode was due to a brain tumor...I didn't have time to check their source.
Wow! Lots of racist sterotypes squeezed into that one paragraph! If you are trying to stand up for black people that is not the way to do it.
You are doing exactly what you are railing against, lumping an entire people as being evil and guilty for the acts of some, that is very hypocritical of you and invalidates your argument completely.
Funny! Actually, I don't read his replies, so, I didn't see that until I read yours! It is ironic that the oh-so sensitive people here who call me vile names aren't the least bit upset about the cruel stereotyping of whites in the media. I guess their brainwashing makes them believe that we must do penance. Even in the Amos & Andy days blacks were portrayed as humorous, and often noble. Never were they cruelly portrayed the way Archie Bunker was. And, today whites are portrayed as greedy crooks who exploit poor minorities, while blacks are repeatedly cast against type as generals, judges, investigators, etc., who have to show dumb white folks how to solve crimes, etc.,. There's no such thing as a positive Arab role model on TV, or a negative Jewish stereotype. How many times have we seen that evil Southern sheriff telling someone, "...And, don't be coming down heah and startin' trouble with none of your Jew Lawyers, neetha!"? But, when NYPD sodomized a black man with a plunger, puncturing his intestines, where was the call for federal intervention? The NYPD is already operating under a federal consent decree as is LAPD, but they still look down their noses at the South. I was in the unique position of being able to poll black heroin addicts in Los Angeles years ago, and many of them were from The South. I asked them who they feared more, the sheriff back home or the LAPD, and all but one said "LAPD!" The sheriff may have called them boy, but the LAPD would shoot their asses in a heartbeat! You'd think that robin and others would see that they've been manipulated their entire lives, and, that the very powerful programming will cause them to collapse at a crucial moment if we try to reclaim our country. "Oh, the Patriot Revolution has racists in it? Well, forget it then! I'm not going to stand with them against globalists who wish to destroy 90% of the earth's population!" All that will be necessary to shut robin and others of her ilk down is the mere hint that she's a closet racist sympathizer, and the Patriot Revolution will be splintered from within! Multi-culti is their religion! I sure hope their daughters marry some big, ugly darkie! "Shuddup you white bitch and bring me my heroin!" And, after OJ did his thang those white wimmen who married darkies were sleeping with one eye open! HAH!
The point is that evil is not owned by any one particular group or race.
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Its unfortunate that some people believe the blackness/darkness of one's soul is worn on the outside.
LaShawn O'hara.
People with their hats on backward, pants down around the crack, isn't that a sign of something? Or are you waiting for Jesus to pull his pants up? Do you need any starch for your sheet?
The problem began when they stopped calling themselves "peace officers" and adopted the title of "law enforcement." And the sheep were ok with this change. At some point, far in the future, people will ask at what point did the American Republic change into a police state. I think what I just mentioned should be the dividing line.
"I'd like to live just long enough to be there when they cut off your head and stick it on a pike as a warning to the next ten generations that some favors come with too high a price." Vir Cotto, Babylon 5
The causality there is backwards, alas, (and the data does not support it in any case. The economic factor is a minor predictor.) But I once thought as you do.
People with their hats on backward, pants down around the crack, isn't that a sign of something? Or are you waiting for Jesus to pull his pants up? As I pointed out in an earlier post on this thread, our prisons are not full of people from the middle and upper classes; regardless of race.
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I will personally pay your way if you move to any black-ruled country like Zimbabwe. You won't do it. People like you are really good at talking the talk but you never walk the walk.
"He is a very shallow critic who cannot see an eternal rebel in the heart of a conservative." - G.K. Chesterton
And basketball players are tall, regardless of race. If you want a free society, you will have to accept racial stratification, because the races are not the same. We differ in our body proportions, our organs and our biochemistries, and our brains are no exception. Only 12% of blacks are smarter than the average white, for mostly biological reasons, and that's not going to change any time soon. It is true that blacks were one better behaved in this country, and improving. That was before the welfare state -- and also before the civil "rights" movement.
People with their hats on backward, pants down around the crack, isn't that a sign of something? Or are you waiting for Jesus to pull his pants up?
#34. To: robin (#27)
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#35. To: RickyJ (#30)
Students should be separated by their ability, and teachers the same.
#36. To: HOUNDDAWG (#34)
From the old Jim Crow Laws to today's polite discrimination there is evidence that Black-Americans (among other groups) have been disenfranchised to some extent.
Now the illegals are adding to the mess.
#37. To: robin (#36)
There are a great many peacefully integrated neighborhoods from San Francisco to San Diego. You don't like it, but that's the way it is.
#38. To: HOUNDDAWG, robin, christine, lodwick (#37)
Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org
#39. To: who knows what evil (#38)
#40. To: who knows what evil (#38)
#41. To: Mekons4 (#40)
Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org
#42. To: lodwick (#39)
Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org
#43. To: Mekons4 (#0)
#44. To: aristeides (#43)
If this could happen to a 45 year old housewife, who is a family member of one of New York's leading families, it could happen to anyone.
#45. To: aristeides (#43)
I think it was The Firesign Theater who said:
#46. To: who knows what evil (#42)
End of the quarter...former businessman sympathies bump.
#47. To: HOUNDDAWG (#37)
#48. To: worldlyman, robin, christine (#47)
#49. To: worldlyman (#47)
The white power males
#50. To: YertleTurtle, robin (#49)
If it wasn't for the white man, blacks would still be living in mudstick huts in Africa, eating each other and dying of malaria -- stuck in 5000 B.C.
#51. To: HOUNDDAWG (#48)
Yo, mah nigga, yu sho tol' dat fukking white debbil da way it bee!
#52. To: Paul Revere (#51)
Man, that's just wrong. It's not honorable.
#53. To: HOUNDDAWG (#50)
Prisoners who refused to plead guilty were often subject to peine forte et dure, or pressing to death. This was used to extract confessions because if a victim died under torture, his estate would be passed onto his heirs. If he confessed, the crown would get the estate. So long, drawn-out tortures were favored as more likely to get a confession. This torture occured as late as 1726.
www.torture-museum.com/devices.htm
http://www.torture-museum.com/governments.htm
#54. To: robin (#53)
....that is not an African.
#55. To: HOUNDDAWG (#54)
Spain was also once home to many Jews, in old dwellings they have found the Torah, encased and buried in the wood of the door jam, as was the custom.
#56. To: Paul Revere, robin (#51)
It is the fault of white racists who have made things difficult...
#57. To: HOUNDDAWG (#56)
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#58. To: HOUNDDAWG (#56)
#59. To: HOUNDDAWG (#48)
#60. To: lodwick, Jethro Tull, robin (#26)
#61. To: HOUNDDAWG. everyone here (#60)
Speaking of TheJuice -
#62. To: worldlyman, HOUNDDAWG, robin, Paul Revere, ferret mike (#47)
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Surely enough, the un-afflicted white trash who number in the millions living in rural areas (all the while presumably subscribing to this “European work ethic”), relatively free of constant police harassment as long as they drink Jack Daniels and pass out in their pickup trucks across rural America, have no real reason to riot. They’re not really the ones getting the employment doors shut in their faces in the big cities. They were able to get through the 50s and early 60s without segregated countertops and extra- judicial lynchings. And I think a trailer home in the boonies is probably an option that won’t really make one riot as opposed to dealing with urban slum lords and high rents concomitant with low wages (to suggest most poor blacks spend on “consumer goods?” Not the ones I’ve known and seen). Fishing is probably a nicer option out in redneck reserves.
#63. To: worldlyman (#47)
I don’t believe the black man committed wholesale genocide in facilities such as Auschwitz and Dachau among other places. (Man, that “European work ethic” was really in full swing in those times.)
#64. To: Diana, robin (#63)
#65. To: Diana (#63)
#66. To: robin (#65)
The point is that evil is not owned by any one particular group or race.
#67. To: HOUNDDAWG (#54)
Must be black Irish then.
-- Bill Cosby
#68. To: HOUNDDAWG (#64)
#69. To: Paul Revere (#15)
This attitude that law enforcement can arrest anyone any time anywhere for anything is what troubles me most.
#70. To: robin (#27)
(Edited)
You still seem to have missed the important common economic component. Middle-Class neighborhoods do not have a crime problem. It is not DNA, it is not especially cultural, it is mostly economic.
-- Bill Cosby
#71. To: Tauzero (#70)
#72. To: worldlyman (#59)
Because the white power males
#73. To: robin (#71)
As I pointed out in an earlier post on this thread, our prisons are not full of people from the middle and upper classes; regardless of race.
-- Bill Cosby
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