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Title: Wow. Cubs, Red Sox and Diamondbacks all clinch, Mets choke and fall into second
Source: ESPN
URL Source: http://espn.go.com
Published: Sep 28, 2007
Author: n/a
Post Date: 2007-09-28 23:12:45 by Mekons4
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Views: 766
Comments: 12

They're going crazy out on the street as Cubs clinch. Yanks just lost and Red Sox clinched. Diamondbacks won earlier, so all that's left is the wild card in the NL. It's all over in the AL. Pretty amazing night, particularly the total collapse of the Mutts and the run the Phillies have made. A couple of weeks ago, the Phils were going to be lucky to get into the wild card. Now they're up one with two to play. One of the best years for baseball ever, apart from the Bonds joke.

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#9. To: Mekons4 (#0)

Jim Bunning's '64 Phillies won't be the bigggest chokers anymore.

MUDDOG  posted on  2007-09-29   14:40:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

The Mets were up by 7 with 17 to play. If they lose now, it will be the biggest choke in history. It's tied again, and today's games are going to be amazing. I'm watching the reruns of The War, but I'll be flipping around to see what's happening. Seriously, if the Mets lose, our grandchildren will be reading about it.

Although he was a great pitcher, Jim Bunning is a loathsome person and I would prefer he remained the example of choking. But I really hate the Mets, so I am truly conflicted on this one. I think I'll take the high road and root for Rollins. There has never been a time in baseball where there were so many great shortstops, and he's the best of the the bunch. Just in the NL East there's Ramirez, Renteria, that punk from the Mets, Rollins and even Felipe Lopez with the Nats is pretty damn good. I never see anything about this, but when you look at baseball today, the crop of shortstops is just amazing. The Braves have two shortstops batting .330. When I was a kid, the average shortstop hit .230.

Mekons4  posted on  2007-09-30   10:35:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

When I was a kid, the average shortstop hit .230.

With no walks.

You're right, compared to those banjo-hitting shortstops, today's shortstops are off the charts.

Bill James has Bunning deserving the Cy Young a couple of years, once with the Tigers, and then in 1967 with the Phillies, when he was 17-15 with 5 of the losses 1-0.

MUDDOG  posted on  2007-09-30   15:17:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#12. To: MUDDOG (#11)

Bill James has Bunning deserving the Cy Young a couple of years, once with the Tigers, and then in 1967 with the Phillies, when he was 17-15 with 5 of the losses 1-0.

Yeah, when I was a kid, the best pitchers in baseball were Spahn, Koufax, Marichal, Gibson and Bunning.

Can you imagine losing FIVE times by 1-0? I think Walter Johnson lost a bunch like that, but not five in one year.

But he's routinely named "dumbest senator" year after year.

Mekons4  posted on  2007-09-30 17:20:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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