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Title: WTF?! Court rules school officials acted properly in forcing 13-year-old to disrobe and expose her breasts and pubic area
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Published: Sep 29, 2007
Author: Marc Parent
Post Date: 2007-09-29 06:46:31 by Kamala
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Friday, September 28, 2007 WTF?! Court rules school officials acted properly in forcing 13-year-old to disrobe and expose her breasts and pubic area Update A reader advises there is a history of child abuse regarding the school in question. I found the following, FORMER SAFFORD MIDDLE SCHOOL PRINCIPAL ACCUSED OF FILMING TEENAGE GIRL If readers find and send in related stories, I'll add them here. --- Court rules school officials acted properly in strip search By Diane Saunders, Staff Writer Safford Middle School officials did not violate the civil rights of a 13-year-old Safford girl when they forced her to disrobe and expose her breasts and pubic area four years ago while looking for a drug, according to the Ninth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ruling. The justices voted 2-1 in favor of the Safford School District on Sept. 21. The decision upheld a federal district court's summary judgement that Safford Middle School Vice Principal Kerry Wilson, school nurse Peggy Schwallier and administrative assistant Helen Romero did not violate the girl's Fourth Amendment rights on Oct. 8, 2003, when they subjected her to a strip search in an effort to find Ibuprofen, an anti-inflammatory drug sold over the counter and in prescription strengths. Wednesday, September 26, 2007 Print this story | Email this story Advertisement * The Safford School District has since (in 2005) adopted a policy that states, "Disrobing of a student is overly instrusive for purposes of most student searches and is improper without express concurrence from school district counsel." The girl's mother filed a federal law suit against the district and Middle School officials because they forced her daughter to strip down to her underwear then move her bra and panties in such a way that her breasts and pubic area were exposed. The mother also asserts that she was not notified of the impending search. In the opinion written by Judge Richard Clifton, "Based on the information available to them, defendants (Safford School District, Wilson, Schwallier and Romero) had 'reasonable grounds' for suspecting that the search of (the girl's) person would turn up evidence that (the girl) had violated or was violating either the law or the rules of the school." Clifton wrote that Wilson and the others had reasonable grounds for believing the girl had Ibuprofen based on conversations with two other students. The other students said the girl possessed Ibuprofen and had distributed the drug to others, according to the court report. Judge Richard R. Clifton, however, disagreed with Thomas and Judge Michael Daly Hawkins, and wrote the dissenting opinion. "I disagree, however, with the assertion that the search of (the girl's) person was reasonable in scope," Clifton wrote. "It was unreasonable to force (the girl), a 13-year-old girl, to expose her breasts and public area to schools officials." Safford School District Superintendent Mark Tregaskes said school officials do not see the Appellate Court's ruling as giving them the OK to strip search students when possession of over-the-counter drugs are suspected. "That's never been the case either before or after this decision," Tregaskes said, adding that the term can be misleading. He also said parents are usually notified, depending on the circumstances. A school district policy, adopted in 2005, states, "School officials have the right to search and seize property, including school property temporarily assigned to students, when there is reason to believe that some material or matter detrimental to health, safety and welfare of the student(s) exists. Disrobing of a student is overly instrusive for purposes of most student searches and is improper without express concurrence from school district counsel." School district policies also state that students cannot possess or take over-the-counter drugs without the written consent of their parents. Over-the-counter drugs must be brought to the school in its original container and be administered by a school official, the policy states. Under certain circumstances, however, students may administer medications to themselves if they provide written permission from their parents. Posted by CRIMES AND CORRUPTION OF THE NEW WORLD ORDER NEWS mparent7777 Marc Parent CCNWON at 11:13 AM
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#1. To: Kamala (#0)
What is it with all these perverts all over the place who can not keep their hands or their eyes off of children?! There have been too many stories lately about children being sexually molested.
The founding Fathers created the Justice system as an "equal" entity with its preferred task being to protect the people from the other two branches of government. Since the 1930s and FDR the Judicial branch has donned kneepads and joined the other two branches in "law making".
I must come from crazy people. Or, maybe not! When my nephew was about ten, a girl pushed him down on the playground. He said, "What's wrong with you, you got PMS?" I thought that was pretty funny. However, the girl complained to the female principal, and my nephew got detention. My sister went to the principal to complain, and things got out of hand, and the principal picked up the phone and threatened to call the police. It's a good thing I wasn't there. I would have taken the phone out of her hand and said, "You think you're going to have me arrested? Do you want me to do something to you so the cops will really have a reason to arrest me?" Another time a principal cut chunks out of a girl's hair for some reason, and the granfather showed up at the school with a pair of scissors and told the principal, you ever touch her again and I'll hold you on the floor and cut your hair. Maybe it's because I live in the Midwest. We really don't have much of that stuff out here, the parents won't stand for it.
"He is a very shallow critic who cannot see an eternal rebel in the heart of a conservative." - G.K. Chesterton
"I disagree, however, with the assertion that the search of (the girl's) person was reasonable in scope," Clifton wrote. "It was unreasonable to force (the girl), a 13-year-old girl, to expose her breasts and public area to schools officials." Did the opinion actually say public?
The U.S. Constitution is no impediment to our form of government.--PJ O'Rourke
This makes a pretty strong case for home schooling...
99 percent of lawyers give the rest a bad name. I figure the farther people get themselves and their families away from the State, the better it is for everyone involved.
"He is a very shallow critic who cannot see an eternal rebel in the heart of a conservative." - G.K. Chesterton
The education process has become big business.
..since when is having possession of an over-the-counter drug illegal?
Most schools forbid bringing OTC drugs to school without permission.
That may be so.. but treating the student as if they had brought in some illegal drug by strip searching her is a tad outrageous.. the judge is wrong on this one IMO.
Outrageous??? It goes far beyond that. Who strip searches the teachers and staff for drugs???? Who searches the Judges and staff??? No one. I would not send a child of mine these days to a public school.
This is why perverts like this gravitate toward positions which enable them to have contact with children...teachers, CPS workers, etc...wonder if the school's 'security' camera caught any 'juicy footage' for in-house distribution?
...ministers. These people would get killed in our small town if they tried to pull this shit. Ibuprofen? Give me a break.
"I wish for a bright future for all human beings and the dawn of the liberation of and freedom for all humans, and the rule of love and affection all around the world, as well as the elimination of oppression, hatred, and violence, a wish which I expect will be realized in the near future". -- MAHMOUD AHMADINEJAD
Should have included thosae rascally youth ministers...just saw the other thread...I'm glad I don't have kids, because I would have ground the bones of anyone I caught molesting my children; and I would be spending a long time in prison. I'm just funny like that, I guess...
The adults
this story occurred in a very small town in eastern Arizona, right next to New mexico border. hard to believe they did this for ibuprophin. you know for some drugs they have ridiculous prohibitions against. and then some drugs like ritalin/prozac are mandatory.
1 Timothy 6:10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.
In my day, there were no drugs. Any child that had an attention problem soon got over such after a few good whacks.
Shit. Shoot. Shovel. Shut-up. Sheesh. Sheep.
What is also terrible about this situation is that most girls around the age of 11 to 13 are extremely modest, and almost afriad of boys and especially strange men and older boys. (My theory on that is that they are beginning to bud, which can attract the attention of men, yet their bodies are not ripe enough yet to bear children so this is a sort of protective mechanizm.) So to force a 13 year old to disrobe in this way was most likely very traumatic for her. I just can't believe some of the things occuring these days, this is legal molestation, at least they are trying to claim it's legal. If I had children no way would they go to public school.
Our society is SO controlled now, they want to have power over every aspect of our lives. I also can't believe they are making kids take all these phychotropic drugs but they are. Parents seem to have no rights to their children anymore. Instead the state does.
Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today!
....about that business of "illegal search and seizure?" She was entitled to face her accusers, among other things. OH, I get it, institutions such as schools have been deputized as Law Enforcement Officers. OR, I guess that if you enroll in a school, they can get you (your parents) to sign away your Constitutional rights - maybe institutionalized/corporate slavery is coming back. All that over an Aspirin. Sad.
Zipporah posted on 2007-09-29 9:28:17 ET I don't know about illegal, but AFAIK all public schools have rules (laws?) against the students having any drugs at all.OTC or not. Don't you feel safer already?
"Satan / Cheney in "08"
Most of those kids are terraists. Put em away if caught with an aspirin.
Actually it is the leftist Democrat socialists who are behind most of this nonsense. Try and find a conservative or Republican on any school teaching or administrative staff. The same is true for school boards. Busy body lefties. Funny you should find that a problem.
Here in Colorado Springs the vast majority of administrators are republican "conservatives", and it is astounding to see what their anti freedom, police state worshiping positions are. So I feel your statement is not well thought out. And sure there are plenty of of these goofballs to go around on the so called left and right (whatever that means these days).
"Satan / Cheney in "08"
what do i find a problem?
willy's famous for his hit and run posts. when challenged, he's unable or unwilling to defend his positions.
We teach our kids not to allow anyone to force them to take their clothes off, or force them to be touched inappropriately, but we then allow our system of schools, children's services, and others to do just that in the name of law. We cannot have principals forcing students to disrobe. Period.
Yep. State control manipulated by federal control. Public schools are now required by law to give over all the names of their male high school students as soon as they reach age 16 so that the info is logged in with Selective Service who send little reminder notes if said males do not register at the exact minute when they reach the birthday that requires them to do so by federal law. In fact, parents need to insist on being given an "opt out" form to be able to keep their sons off this automatic reporting list sent into Selective Service by our public school educators. Nice, yes? Mothers birth little boys and keep them safe and healthy for 16 years and then the gov't says "thanks for growing such delicious cannon fodder for us - we'll take over now."
WTF!!!!!! Ibuprofin?????????????? It's an OTC medication for Pete's sake, otherwise known as Motrin...Good thing I wasn't her dad or their would be some deceased school employees.
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition It doesn't just seem that way - it IS that way. Concerning children, parents are in a guardian/ward relationship with the state - the state is the WARD, the parents are the GUARDIANS, and the WARD basically gets to "call the shots". My oldest daughter will be having her first child in about 5 months. She told me she really wants to use a midwife and have the baby at home, but she's not sure she will. I urged her to check into home birth more, and think it's a good idea. Then I told her that if she DOES use the hospital to make sure of 3 things: #3 is just good advice as (at that age especially) the baby's immune system is just not formed at all and the baby is easily susceptible to anything a "vaccine" may contain. But #1 and 2 are what will ensure that she DOES "keep the rights" to her child - if she follows that advice, she won't be entering into that guardian/ward relationship with the state.
99 percent of lawyers give the rest a bad name. That's what I said. Public schools are so twisted it's unreal. Your daughter can't have an aspirin without "consent", BUT she can arrange through the school to have an abortion without them ever even notifying you at all...
99 percent of lawyers give the rest a bad name. I have to stay away from schools, airports, even some post offices. The bureaucrats in them drive me nuts sometimes.
"He is a very shallow critic who cannot see an eternal rebel in the heart of a conservative." - G.K. Chesterton
#2. To: Diana (#1)
What is it with all these perverts
#3. To: Kamala (#0)
#4. To: Kamala (#0)
#5. To: Kamala (#0)
Steven Wright
#6. To: innieway (#5)
This makes a pretty strong case for home schooling...
#7. To: innieway (#5)
This makes a pretty strong case for home schooling...
#8. To: Kamala (#0)
OK to strip search students when possession of over-the-counter drugs are suspected
#9. To: Zipporah (#8)
..since when is having possession of an over-the-counter drug illegal?
#10. To: Cynicom (#9)
#11. To: Zipporah (#10)
strip searching her is a tad outrageous.. the judge is wrong on this one IMO.
#12. To: Diana (#1)
(Edited)
Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org
#13. To: who knows what evil (#12)
...teachers, CPS workers,
#14. To: angle (#13)
Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org
#15. To: Diana (#1)
What is it with all these perverts all over the place who can not keep their hands or their eyes off of children?! There have been too many stories lately about children being sexually molested.
GOP are in charge.
#16. To: Kamala, Diana, Angle, Cynicom (#0)
#17. To: Red Jones (#16)
you know for some drugs they have ridiculous prohibitions against. and then some drugs like ritalin/prozac are mandatory.
#18. To: Kamala (#0)
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
#19. To: who knows what evil (#12)
#20. To: Red Jones (#16)
you know for some drugs they have ridiculous prohibitions against. and then some drugs like ritalin/prozac are mandatory.
#21. To: Kamala, Diana (#0)
#22. To: christine, jethro tull, Kamala, (#0)
#23. To: Zipporah (#8)
..since when is having possession of an over-the-counter drug illegal?
#24. To: tom007 (#23)
Don't you feel safer already?
#25. To: christine (#15)
#26. To: willyone (#25)
Try and find a conservative or Republican on any school teaching or administrative staff. The same is true for school boards. Busy body lefties. Funny you should find that a problem.
#27. To: willyone (#25)
Funny you should find that a problem
#28. To: tom007 (#26)
So I feel your statement is not well thought out. And sure there are plenty of of these goofballs to go around on the so called left and right (whatever that means these days).
#29. To: Kamala (#0)
#30. To: Diana, christine, robin (#20)
Our society is SO controlled now, they want to have power over every aspect of our lives. I also can't believe they are making kids take all these phychotropic drugs but they are. Parents seem to have no rights to their children anymore. Instead the state does.
#31. To: Kamala (#0)
they subjected her to a strip search in an effort to find Ibuprofen,
"There is no 'legitimate' Corporation by virtue of it's very legal definition and purpose."
-- IndieTx
#32. To: Diana (#20)
Parents seem to have no rights to their children anymore. Instead the state does.
1) DON'T fill out a birth certificate application - simply tell them you haven't decided on a name for the baby yet, and you'll fill it out later and send it in - then simply "lose" it and NEVER fill one out. They may not like it, but that's NOT illegal.
2) DON'T fill out an application for the baby to get a Social(ist) Security Number.
3) DON'T let them give the baby ANY vaccinations before they leave the hospital.
Steven Wright
#33. To: IndieTX (#31)
WTF!!!!!! Ibuprofin??????????????
Steven Wright
#34. To: IndieTX (#31)
Good thing I wasn't her dad or their would be some deceased school employees.
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