Title: Ken Burns ("The War") on Bill Maher 9/28/07 Source:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dfWTtYzyPQ&eurl=http%3A%2F%2 URL Source:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dfWTtYzyPQ&eurl=http%3A%2F%2F Published:Sep 29, 2007 Author:Burns/Maher Post Date:2007-09-29 13:59:40 by robin Keywords:None Views:260 Comments:20
Interesting interview - aside from his patently transparent glorification of war film, Ken Burns stumbles in some parts in delivering a coherent message to the sheeple...notable example...
Burns said as a paraphrased response to Maher's suggestion that our troops can't find anything important point to fighting in the Iraq War except to continue do so for their brothers, l'esprit de corps:
"Yes, it is amazing to see the flag flying at half-mast at all times at West Point - it goes to show that our troops are willing to fight and sacrifice for necessary as well as unnecessary wars."
But, his documentary shows how astonishingly different this preemptive war business is from WWII.
Not only from what kind of war, what kind of people we were then, but also the incredible amount of manufacturing that took place - jobs for all. What a contrast with today! We couldn't go to war today with China, they make everything we need for war!
It is still a very worthwhile series, the personal storytelling by those who were there, is well done.
It is still a very worthwhile series, the personal storytelling by those who were there, is well done.
My nephew benefits more from having his grand father stay tight lipped about what he did in WWIII except to advise him thusly: "War is government sanctioned murder. War is ugly."
His grand father should know - because unlike Ken Burns, he was a navigator in WWII on bombing missions and he has had to live all these years with a very bad conscience about the people - many civilians - he helped snuff in WWII. The solidarity of Americans post conscription was a good by product I guess but the onus borne by individuals who actually fought this war mano-a- mano was not always happy.
I have not seen The War series, but I suspect that LKen Burns did not bring up the rather uncomfortable aspects of fighting WWII.
First off, American soldiers were fighting and killing family tree related brothers. Americans of German and Italian descent were in high numbers at the time of WWII.
Secondly, though WWII was partly about liberating the Jews and Polish Christians from the NAZII's concentration camps, let's keep in mind that it was the NAZIIS not regular German soldiers who ran these monstrous camps. The German soldiers were fighting for their nation and for the lies their Nazii leaders told them at the time.
Thirdly, when the American troops found Russian POW's they had to release them to Uncle Joe's military. These Russian POW soldiers were shot on the spot - my father's older brother said he was present when this happened and he had to live with that ugly realization - that the Russian communists, our WWII allies, were BARBARIANS. We threw our lot in with arguably a bigger monster than the monster we were fighting in WWII.
Fourthly the primary goal of entering WWII - at least for the Brits - was to "liberate" Poland. What a colossal failure if that was a primary goal of WWII. We only changed the servitude of Poland's peoples from one monster to another.
Ken Burns chose 4 American towns to see how the war impacted them and the people in them (Mobile, Sacramento, LaVerne and Waterbury). Their letters, interviews, and personal stories told with some narration of what is going on gives a real insight into life just before and during the war.
My dad was a B-24 squadron leader over North Africa, up through Italy, then to France on D-Day and finally over Germany - plus 50+ missions to the oil fields in Romania. My mother's brother and cousins were in the South Pacific, Navy and Marines. But, I have learned a lot from Ken Burns' documentary thus far, and it is only about half-way. I think it is even better than his Civil War series.
For example, did you know that while Japanese-Americans were behind barbed wire in camps, some of their draft-age sons were in army units fighting in Europe?
No Generals were interviewed, this is "from the ground up".
And the Italian-American who wrote his mother that everything was just fine (how he ate 6 pork chops and turkey), and no one realized until years later how much he was just lying, in order to protect them and especially his mother, from the realities of war.
A year ago I registered my grandfather name at the WWII monument and site in W Washington, is your father registered there its a great memorial.
My Uncle flew a B-52, was shot down in Belguim, thank god he was okay and was able to get back. He continued to fly for the remainder of the War. I have the letter he wrote to my grandparents telling them he was okay and how a Belgian farmer saved him. The Belgian farmer actually cracked open a bottle of wine and they all celebrated, they were so happy that they where being liberated.
I thought it was a B52, I will hav to call my Uncle up and ask him, I know he was a navigator. He just recently went to a reuion in either S.carolina or N. Carolina.
Cyni, what do you thin he flew, I know it was a bomber.