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Title: Veteran Removes Illegal Mexican Flag, May Be Charged (Video & MP3)
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URL Source: http://www.infowars.com/articles/ps ... exican_flag_may_be_charged.htm
Published: Oct 3, 2007
Author: Steve Watson
Post Date: 2007-10-04 10:46:52 by Liberate Jim Traficant
Keywords: Mexican Flag, Alex Jones, Glenn Spencer
Views: 291
Comments: 26
A Veteran from Reno, Nev. has hit headlines after he took matters into his own hands yesterday and tore down a Mexican flag that was being illegally flown above a U.S. flag at a local business. Local news station KRNV News 4 had received calls yesterday afternoon from angry residents complaining about the Mexican flag. When the station sent a reporter to investigate the Veteran took the opportunity to make a statement in front of the cameras. The man commented "I'm Jim Brossert and I took this flag down in honor of my country with a knife from the United States army. I'm a veteran, I am not going to see this done to my country. if they want to fight us, then they need to be men, and they need to come and fight us, but I want somebody to fight me for this flag. They're not going to get it back." Watch it: The hispanic store owner who witnessed the incident would not make comment on camera but told KRNV over the phone that he was flying the flag as a mark of solidarity to the hispanic community. Pro-immigration protests have been ongoing in the area all weekend after raids were conducted by authorities in the area last week. The store owner said he is an American citizen and did not know what he was doing was against the law. However, according to federal law it is illegal to fly any flag above the U.S. flag, and if flying more than one they must be on separate poles and be of an equal size. The Reno police department has told KRNV that Brossert will faces charges for theft if the store owner files a police report of what happened. Similar incidents have previously been reported in Maywood, CA ., Tucson, Arizona , and Jupiter, Florida. 
Veteran Removes Illegal Mexican Flag, May Be Charged
Reno resident cuts down Mexican flag flying above U.S. flag after outcry
By Steve Watson 
Alex Jones Interviews Glenn Spencer on
flag outrage and on the Mexican invasion
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#1. To: Liberate Jim Traficant (#0)
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
A riveting interview came in today between Alex Jones and Glenn Spencer on this outrage (see link above). Glenn Spencer has been on the border fighting the immigration invasion for the past 17 years, web-radio enthusiasts be sure to check that broadcast out!
Flying flags like that signifies conquest, that Mexican bozo is lucky he didn't get his teeth knocked out over that -
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
Listen to the AJ clip that LJT posted above. You might have a different attitude when you understand that the symbolism of flying any country's flag above ours is one of conquest. That's the message they wish to portray.
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
The flag is supposed to be a symbol, not of nationalism, but of what we stand for. Our values are more important than our symbols. If someone wants to fly their Mexican flag above their US flag on their property, that's fine by me. The federal statute about the proper way to fly the flag is advisory. I don't think there are any criminal penalties set out for it. The guy who flew the flag is supposedly a US citizen, and that means he has the right to speak as freely as he wishes. If he wants to put a display in his window of him taking a crap on the American flag, he can. It's cloth, and the only thing going on is nationalist pride angry at an expression of loyalty to Mexico over the US. I don't care for people who are more loyal to their country of origin than the US, but that is the nature of all these people who come here to make a better life. They all think the shithole they came from is culturally superior.
And it looks like someone in the South just may go to jail for such. Selective prosecution by the "justice" system appears to be the norm.
Go to hell.
"He is a very shallow critic who cannot see an eternal rebel in the heart of a conservative." - G.K. Chesterton
True. The laws that let him into the country and made him a citizen are even bigger bullshit.
People with their hats on backward, pants down around the crack, isn't that a sign of something? Or are you waiting for Jesus to pull his pants up?
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
People still have the freedom to call me a redneck, cracker, hill billy or whatever, so we do have some freedoms left.
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
At least that's my take on it. But I'm one of those wacky constitutionalists who thinks the First Amendment includes symbolic expressions. If burning the flag is protected under the First Amendment, how can its placement be any different?
chris, check out the use of the phrase "voluntary civilian compliance". "The Flag Code does not prescribe any penalties for non-compliance nor does it include any enforcement provisions, rather it functions simply as a guide for voluntary civilian compliance.") The federal flag code does not authorize the government to dispatch G-men or police to arrest persons who allow their flags to touch the ground, display flags upside-down or backwards, or fail to destroy old flags "in a dignified way." But, according to the former IRS Commissioner that Aaron Russo interviewed, "voluntary compliance" means, "volunteer or else we'll come and get you!" "I want to marry a white woman!"__SILAS LYNCH in BIRTH OF A NATION
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Hell, that's true even of my German forebearers. Always nattering on about how goot it was back in Germany, and how clean and respectful people were... I have a long of history of telling any such person they should pack up and go back to their beloved country, but they won't do that, because they really want the life in the US of A. Anyone who says to me that they think Greece, China, Canada, or whatever is better than the US, I tell them "then go back, because we need less of you."
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
And nazi too, don't forget nazi.
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
Below is an excerpt from a Congressional Research Service report and the actual Flag Code. http://digital.library.unt.edu/govdocs/crs/permalink/meta-crs-1110:1 Congressional Research Service The Library of Congress Order Code RL30243 CRS Report for Congress The United States Flag: Federal Law Relating to Display and Associated Questions Updated June 14, 2000 John R. Luckey Legislative Attorney American Law Division [...] The United States Flag: Federal Law Relating to Display and Associated Questions Background Public concern and confusion regarding the proper respect shown to the United States flag has given rise to many questions on the law relating to the flag’s handling, display, and use. Both the state governments and the federal government have enacted legislation on this subject. On the national level the Federal Flag Code [1] provides uniform guidelines for the display of and respect shown to the flag. In addition to the Code, Congress has by statute designated the national anthem and set out the proper conduct during its presentation. [2] The Code is designed "for the use of such civilian groups or organizations as may not be required to conform with regulations promulgated by one or more executive departments" of the federal government. [3] Thus, the Flag Code does not prescribe any penalties for non-compliance nor does it include enforcement provisions; rather the Code functions simply as a guide to be voluntarily followed by civilians and civilian groups. The Federal Flag Code does not purport to cover all possible situations. Although the Code empowers the President of the United States to alter, modify, repeal, or prescribe additional rules regarding the flag, [4] no federal agency has the authority to issue "official" rulings legally binding on civilians or civilian groups. Consequently, different interpretations of various provisions of the Code may continue to be made. The Flag Code itself, however, suggests a general rule by which practices involving the flag may be fairly tested: "No disrespect should be shown to the flag of the United States of America." [5] Therefore, actions not specifically included in the Code may be deemed acceptable as long as proper respect is shown. [1] 4 U.S.C. §§ 4-10. [...] Nature of Codification of Customs and Rules The Flag Code is a codification of customs and rules established for the use of certain civilians and civilian groups. No penalty or punishment is specified in the Flag Code for display of the flag of the United States in a manner other than as suggested. Cases which have construed the former 36 U.S.C. § 17521 have concluded that the Flag Code does not proscribe conduct, but is merely declaratory and advisory. [22] [22] See e.g., Homes v. Wallace, 407 F. Supp. 493 (M.D. Ala.), aff’d without published opinion, 540 F.2d 1083 (5th Cir. 1976); and State of Delaware ex. rel Trader v. Hodsdon, 265 F. Supp. 308 (D. Del. 1967); see also N.A.A.C.P. v. Hunt, 891 F.2d 1555 (11th Cir. 1990). [...] ==================== http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/casecode/uscodes/4/chapters/1/sections/section_7.html United States Code TITLE 4 - FLAG AND SEAL, SEAT OF GOVERNMENT, AND THE STATES CHAPTER 1 - THE FLAG U.S. Code as of: 01/3/05 Section 7. Position and manner of display The flag, when carried in a procession with another flag or flags, should be either on the marching right; that is, the flag's own right, or, if there is a line of other flags, in front of the center of that line. (a) The flag should not be displayed on a float in a parade except from a staff, or as provided in subsection (i) of this section. (b) The flag should not be draped over the hood, top, sides, or back of a vehicle or of a railroad train or a boat. When the flag is displayed on a motorcar, the staff shall be fixed firmly to the chassis or clamped to the right fender. (c) No other flag or pennant should be placed above or, if on the same level, to the right of the flag of the United States of America, except during church services conducted by naval chaplains at sea, when the church pennant may be flown above the flag during church services for the personnel of the Navy. No person shall display the flag of the United Nations or any other national or international flag equal, above, or in a position of superior prominence or honor to, or in place of, the flag of the United States at any place within the United States or any Territory or possession thereof: Provided, That nothing in this section shall make unlawful the continuance of the practice heretofore followed of displaying the flag of the United Nations in a position of superior prominence or honor, and other national flags in positions of equal prominence or honor, with that of the flag of the United States at the headquarters of the United Nations. (d) The flag of the United States of America, when it is displayed with another flag against a wall from crossed staffs, should be on the right, the flag's own right, and its staff should be in front of the staff of the other flag. (e) The flag of the United States of America should be at the center and at the highest point of the group when a number of flags of States or localities or pennants of societies are grouped and displayed from staffs. (f) When flags of States, cities, or localities, or pennants of societies are flown on the same halyard with the flag of the United States, the latter should always be at the peak. When the flags are flown from adjacent staffs, the flag of the United States should be hoisted first and lowered last. No such flag or pennant may be placed above the flag of the United States or to the United States flag's right. (g) When flags of two or more nations are displayed, they are to be flown from separate staffs of the same height. The flags should be of approximately equal size. International usage forbids the display of the flag of one nation above that of another nation in time of peace. (h) When the flag of the United States is displayed from a staff projecting horizontally or at an angle from the window sill, balcony, or front of a building, the union of the flag should be placed at the peak of the staff unless the flag is at half-staff. When the flag is suspended over a sidewalk from a rope extending from a house to a pole at the edge of the sidewalk, the flag should be hoisted out, union first, from the building. (i) When displayed either horizontally or vertically against a wall, the union should be uppermost and to the flag's own right, that is, to the observer's left. When displayed in a window, the flag should be displayed in the same way, with the union or blue field to the left of the observer in the street. (j) When the flag is displayed over the middle of the street, it should be suspended vertically with the union to the north in an east and west street or to the east in a north and south street. (k) When used on a speaker's platform, the flag, if displayed flat, should be displayed above and behind the speaker. When displayed from a staff in a church or public auditorium, the flag of the United States of America should hold the position of superior prominence, in advance of the audience, and in the position of honor at the clergyman's or speaker's right as he faces the audience. Any other flag so displayed should be placed on the left of the clergyman or speaker or to the right of the audience. (l) The flag should form a distinctive feature of the ceremony of unveiling a statue or monument, but it should never be used as the covering for the statue or monument. (m) The flag, when flown at half-staff, should be first hoisted to the peak for an instant and then lowered to the half-staff position. The flag should be again raised to the peak before it is lowered for the day. On Memorial Day the flag should be displayed at half-staff until noon only, then raised to the top of the staff. By order of the President, the flag shall be flown at half-staff upon the death of principal figures of the United States Government and the Governor of a State, territory, or possession, as a mark of respect to their memory. In the event of the death of other officials or foreign dignitaries, the flag is to be displayed at half-staff according to Presidential instructions or orders, or in accordance with recognized customs or practices not inconsistent with law. In the event of the death of a present or former official of the government of any State, territory, or possession of the United States, the Governor of that State, territory, or possession may proclaim that the National flag shall be flown at half-staff. The flag shall be flown at half-staff 30 days from the death of the President or a former President; 10 days from the day of death of the Vice President, the Chief Justice or a retired Chief Justice of the United States, or the Speaker of the House of Representatives; from the day of death until interment of an Associate Justice of the Supreme Court, a Secretary of an executive or military department, a former Vice President, or the Governor of a State, territory, or possession; and on the day of death and the following day for a Member of Congress. The flag shall be flown at half-staff on Peace Officers Memorial Day, unless that day is also Armed Forces Day. As used in this subsection - (1) the term "half-staff" means the position of the flag when it is one-half the distance between the top and bottom of the staff; (2) the term "executive or military department" means any agency listed under sections 101 and 102 of title 5, United States Code; and (3) the term "Member of Congress" means a Senator, a Representative, a Delegate, or the Resident Commissioner from Puerto Rico. (n) When the flag is used to cover a casket, it should be so placed that the union is at the head and over the left shoulder. The flag should not be lowered into the grave or allowed to touch the ground. (o) When the flag is suspended across a corridor or lobby in a building with only one main entrance, it should be suspended vertically with the union of the flag to the observer's left upon entering. If the building has more than one main entrance, the flag should be suspended vertically near the center of the corridor or lobby with the union to the north, when entrances are to the east and west or to the east when entrances are to the north and south. If there are entrances in more than two directions, the union should be to the east.
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
Thanks for digging out the code.
#2. To: All (#0)
#3. To: ghostdogtxn (#1)
What a bullshit law. If I own the flags and I want to fly the flag of Timbuktoo on top of the flag of Micronesia on top of the US flag, it's my fucking property and I ought to be able to do what the fuck I want with it.
#4. To: Liberate Jim Traficant (#3)
#5. To: ghostdogtxn, Liberate Jim Traficant (#2)
#6. To: christine (#5)
#7. To: Liberate Jim Traficant (#0)
(Edited)
#8. To: ghostdogtxn (#6)
It includes the freedom to dress up in a white robe and hang a noose on a tree in the deep south,
#9. To: ghostdogtxn (#1)
At least that's my take on it.
#10. To: ghostdogtxn (#1)
What a bullshit law.
-- Bill Cosby
#11. To: Paul Revere (#7)
#12. To: Cynicom (#8)
#13. To: YertleTurtle (#9)
#14. To: ghostdogtxn (#12)
Face it, most Americans don't really like freedom,
#15. To: Tauzero (#10)
#16. To: Cynicom (#14)
#17. To: ghostdogtxn. RP friends (#1)
If I own the flags and I want to fly the flag of Timbuktoo on top of the flag of Micronesia on top of the US flag, it's my fucking property and I ought to be able to do what the fuck I want with it.
#18. To: christine (#5)
#19. To: Liberate Jim Traficant, *North American Union*, *The Border* (#0)
Similar incidents have previously been reported in Maywood, CA ., Tucson, Arizona , and Jupiter, Florida.
#20. To: ghostdogtxn (#11)
... that is the nature of all these people who come here to make a better life. They all think the shithole they came from is culturally superior. Of course, even after they make money, not many of them want to go back ...
#21. To: lodwick (#17)
#22. To: Cynicom, ghostdogtxn (#14)
People still have the freedom to call me a redneck, cracker, hill billy or whatever, so we do have some freedoms left.
#23. To: Diana (#22)
#24. To: lodwick, ghostdogtxn (#17)
If burning the flag is protected under the First Amendment, how can its placement be any different?
[2] 36 U.S.C. § 301.
[3] 4 U.S.C. § 5.
[4] 4 U.S.C. § 10.
[5] 4 U.S.C. § 8.
#25. To: nolu_chan (#24)
#26. To: nolu_chan (#24)
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