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Title: RON PAUL ON ABC NEWS
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Published: Oct 4, 2007
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Post Date: 2007-10-04 17:18:56 by Artisan
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#1. To: Artisan (#0)

The talking heads cannot bring themselves to treat all candidates on the same level, they must segregate them, which is a form of negative newsreading.

Cynicom  posted on  2007-10-04   17:24:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

After seeing that clip, I wonder if George Will has endorsed Ron Paul? In CA ,Senator Tom McClintock has essentially done that during one radio interview he conducted with Paul.

Artisan  posted on  2007-10-04   17:32:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

After seeing that clip, I wonder if George Will has endorsed Ron Paul?

I doubt it. Will is another draft dodging neocon.

Cynicom  posted on  2007-10-04   17:35:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

right,. but his favorable comments in that clip surprised me. At least he concedes what most cons try to ignore. that being anti-war is not synonimous with being a 'LIB'RUL'.

when they can deride all anti-war types as lib'ruls, it excuses them from debating the true paleo-right arguement. I asked one idiot con recently, incredulously, if he's claiming that Pat Buchanan is 'LIB'RUL'. It stops them in their tracks every time,. We have to argue the right points., not the talking points that hannity and oreilly feed these dopes.

Artisan  posted on  2007-10-04   17:44:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

but his favorable comments in that clip surprised me.

I was surprised also.

It is going to interesting to see which pundit is first out of the gate to broadside Paul. So far they have been snide but relatively calm. When it appears Paul may go the third party route the gloves will come off.

Cynicom  posted on  2007-10-04   17:48:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Hi Cyni,

Did you see Ron Paul on CNN, just moments ago. He look Great.

exdem2000  posted on  2007-10-04   18:01:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I thought that was pretty fair coverage for Ron Paul.

I've seen some terrible coverage, including one jackass who suggested derisively that Paul was getting his support from extra terrestrials. That's the kind of pompous political punditry that pisses me off.

Paul Revere  posted on  2007-10-04   18:23:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I've heard at least 2 separate people mention that paul's ideas are 'sort of kooky'. They both used the word 'kooky'. They have no doubt heard this on some neocon radio program. When i get that from ignorant republicans, i tell them that a supposed 'conservative' ex-cheerleader cokehead who wore dresses in his college yearbook, advocating gun bans and promoting socialism and open borders is kooky. Not to mention laying in a coffin at yale and performing fag occult rituals,. Yeah, is that your idea iof a 'macho hero'? if so, who raised you and where did they go wrong? Yes, i actually have said this to numerous people.

F- em, they have no reply and don't know what to say, and are too ignorant to refute my facts. F-in stupid, dumbed down sickos.

Artisan  posted on  2007-10-04   18:29:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

when they can deride all anti-war types as lib'ruls, it excuses them from debating the true paleo-right arguement. I asked one idiot con recently, incredulously, if he's claiming that Pat Buchanan is 'LIB'RUL'. It stops them in their tracks every time,. We have to argue the right points., not the talking points that hannity and oreilly feed these dopes.

Further to your excellent remarks...

Being anti-war is not synonymous with being anti-troops. In fact as the interviewer pointed out, Dr. Paul receives the most support from the military and far above all other Presidential candidates do.

Obviously the troops recognize that being supportive of troops means not sending them to fight and die in elective foreign wars that have zero to do with defending America from attack.

scrapper2  posted on  2007-10-04   18:43:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

cokehead who wore dresses in his college yearbook, advocating gun bans and promoting socialism and open borders is kooky. Not to mention laying in a coffin at yale and performing fag occult rituals,. Yeah, is that your idea iof a 'macho hero'? if so, who raised you and where did they go wrong? Yes, i actually have said this to numerous people.

hehehehe..and these same dumbdumbs believe this satan worshipper is a christian. please. we are sooooooooooo screwed.

christine  posted on  2007-10-04   18:46:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

but his favorable comments in that clip surprised me.

Pundits will start hedging now against the possibility that Ron Paul will do surprisingly well.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2007-10-04   18:47:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

A lot of people considered Ronald Reagan a kook in 1979-80.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2007-10-04   18:48:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I've heard at least 2 separate people mention that paul's ideas are 'sort of kooky'. They both used the word 'kooky'. They have no doubt heard this on some neocon radio program. When i get that from ignorant republicans, i tell them that a supposed 'conservative' ex-cheerleader cokehead who wore dresses in his college yearbook, advocating gun bans and promoting socialism and open borders is kooky. Not to mention laying in a coffin at yale and performing fag occult rituals,. Yeah, is that your idea of a 'macho hero'? if so, who raised you and where did they go wrong? Yes, i actually have said this to numerous people.

Good!

Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today!

robin  posted on  2007-10-04   18:51:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Interesting video.. they act as if it's surprising.. sure reveals how out of touch they are with the people.

Zipporah  posted on  2007-10-04   18:52:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Obviously the troops recognize that being supportive of troops means not sending them to fight and die in elective foreign wars that have zero to do with defending America from attack.

only the enlightened ones who support RP.

christine  posted on  2007-10-04   18:52:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

i have one republican relative who was an MP and is a total gun afficianado- & bush supporter. he called ron paul kooky and i had to restrain myself. LOL. he had never even heard of the assault weapons ban, or the washington times newspaper. You think you know what people know. You may assume they know ANYTHING. In reality these are very smart successful people in many ways, yet they don't know jack sh!t about anything regardig politics. How could a gun guy have never even heard of bush urging the renewal of the assault weapons ban? didn't the NRA even send out notices about that, (or did they support it too?)

How can you have a coherent conversation or exchange of ideas when people don't even know widespread, conceded, undisputed facts?

The point is that nobody knows anything. it's hopeless. the young people are our only hope.

Artisan  posted on  2007-10-04   19:02:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

when you start telling republicans that bush senior allowed boy hookers to take midnight tours of the white house it only confuses them. I have to restrain myself and only tell them about paul's constitutional voting record. the rabbit hole is just too deep.

I had one lady bush supporter tell me that northwoods docs, (she had never heard of them previously) may have been 'made up' by ABC news, because after all, the media doesn't always tell the truth. Uggh.. LOL.

ALL YOU CAN DO IS INSULT THEM AT THAT POINT. That is my conclusion.

Artisan  posted on  2007-10-04   19:07:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I think that maybe amurika deserves the halliburton camps at this point.

Artisan  posted on  2007-10-04   19:09:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

we are sooooooooooo screwed

America has been so compromised it can't be fixed. Crisis precipitates change. Our next will be economic.

Mark

If America is destroyed, it may be by Americans who salute the flag, sing the national anthem, march in patriotic parades, cheer Fourth of July speakers - normally good Americans who fail to comprehend what is required to keep our country strong and free - Americans who have been lulled into a false security (April 1968).---Ezra Taft Benson, US Secretary of Agriculture 1953-1961 under Eisenhower

Kamala  posted on  2007-10-04   19:11:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

How can you have a coherent conversation or exchange of ideas when people don't even know widespread, conceded, undisputed facts?

The point is that nobody knows anything. it's hopeless. the young people are our only hope.

You can't, not until you've slowly informed them. And I agree, the young are more open minded and more cynical of all things govt.

Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today!

robin  posted on  2007-10-04   19:11:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Cafferty: More Ron Paul?

www.cnn.com/video/#/video...4/cafferty.file.10.04.cnn

"Yes, but is this good for Jews?"

Eoghan  posted on  2007-10-04   19:15:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I'm having fun with that stack of 911 dvds that i got. several people , strangers, who i gave dvds to, have known about Ron Paul. it's encouraging.

I had my PAUL 08 button on, & several of them said they heard about him on MYSPACE.

Artisan  posted on  2007-10-04   19:16:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Not to be a drag, but Paul is going to get crucified. I doubt highly that the American public is going to accept the ideas of no income tax, no abortion, and so on. I prefer an honest guy who is willing to go down with the ship, but seriously, libertarians have zero chance of being elected. I know you guys love him, but as nice as he is, he's way further to the right than that other doctor was to the left. Still, he is at least honest, and that counts a lot with me.

Mekons4  posted on  2007-10-04   19:36:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Cafferty: More Ron Paul?

Thanks Eoghan, I didnt see this clip, I think it was Wolf interviewing Ron Paul.

This post with Cafferty is even better.

exdem2000  posted on  2007-10-04   19:37:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

So your answer is to vote for socialism/marxism?

Mark

If America is destroyed, it may be by Americans who salute the flag, sing the national anthem, march in patriotic parades, cheer Fourth of July speakers - normally good Americans who fail to comprehend what is required to keep our country strong and free - Americans who have been lulled into a false security (April 1968).---Ezra Taft Benson, US Secretary of Agriculture 1953-1961 under Eisenhower

Kamala  posted on  2007-10-04   19:43:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I know this might sound corny to some, but I feel that Ron Paul is someone our founding fathers would want runing our country. Ron Paul is a representative of the people.

exdem2000  posted on  2007-10-04   19:46:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

It's the truth!

Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today!

robin  posted on  2007-10-04   19:48:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

the young people are our only hope.

ha. most of them don't even know who the current VP is.

christine  posted on  2007-10-04   19:51:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

So your answer is to vote for socialism/marxism?

You have a subtle mind, interested in nuances, I see.

Every great society, from the hunger gatherers to the Romans and on to the British Empire and now us has one thing in common with the others. Improving the lives of their citizens. If you think making it worse is the answer, be my guest. You are not well educated.

Bush is raping the middle class, and dreaming of a world that Anal Rand would have loved is just plain stupid. We, as a society, have to improve the life of everyone or we die. That ain't commie talk. Would you like it if I called you a nazi?

Ideology will never defeat facts. And calling others names won't, either. You still love that "defeat them there or they'll be here" crap? That's what your right wing thug leaders are feeding you. Get a book. I recommend The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich. You might learn something about "socialism/marxism."

My early line, though, is you won't.

Mekons4  posted on  2007-10-04   19:57:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

We, as a society, have to improve the life of everyone or we die.

I disagree with you. Improving the life of everyone is not society's imperative nor does the lack of everyone living equally well threaten a society's existence. Don't be ridiculous. Why is it my responsibility or the responsibility of America to improve your living conditions or to make you a better person? Each individual has free will and it's up to the individual to improve himself to the extent he becomes the best person he can be. It's quite unrealistic to believe that a society needs to be socially engineered to try to achieve identical outcomes for all or else we all fail. That's a false proposition.

scrapper2  posted on  2007-10-04   20:04:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Please post all my articles and replies supporting nazism, the republican party, and fascism, the war or this adminstration. I'll make it easy for you. There aren't any.

Your scripted response is a laugh.

Your trapped in the left/right, DEM vs REP mindset. Your lost, like most in this country.

You have found a safe haven and had a free ride here at 4um because of the distain most have here for the current administration.

Obama isn't the answer. The Hag isn't the answer. Gouliani isn't the answer. Thompson isn't the answer.

I have a clear conscience knowing I haven't voted for either party since "92".

Mark

If America is destroyed, it may be by Americans who salute the flag, sing the national anthem, march in patriotic parades, cheer Fourth of July speakers - normally good Americans who fail to comprehend what is required to keep our country strong and free - Americans who have been lulled into a false security (April 1968).---Ezra Taft Benson, US Secretary of Agriculture 1953-1961 under Eisenhower

Kamala  posted on  2007-10-04   20:26:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Why is it my responsibility or the responsibility of America to improve your living conditions or to make you a better person?

Exactly. I guess I missed that part in the Constitution and Bill of Rights.

Mark

If America is destroyed, it may be by Americans who salute the flag, sing the national anthem, march in patriotic parades, cheer Fourth of July speakers - normally good Americans who fail to comprehend what is required to keep our country strong and free - Americans who have been lulled into a false security (April 1968).---Ezra Taft Benson, US Secretary of Agriculture 1953-1961 under Eisenhower

Kamala  posted on  2007-10-04   20:28:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Ron Paul on Wolf Blitzer Situation Room 10/04

"Yes, but is this good for Jews?"

Eoghan  posted on  2007-10-04   20:33:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Thanks Eoghan, They are talking about Ron Paul on NY62 right now

exdem2000  posted on  2007-10-04   20:46:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Did you notice Paul used that word "draft" in there?????

Cynicom  posted on  2007-10-04   20:56:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Your

Your

Your

distain

When you learn to spell, come back. If you think a moron like you is taken seriously, well, is your daughter a good wife?

Mekons4  posted on  2007-10-04   20:58:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Pathetic response.

Mark

If America is destroyed, it may be by Americans who salute the flag, sing the national anthem, march in patriotic parades, cheer Fourth of July speakers - normally good Americans who fail to comprehend what is required to keep our country strong and free - Americans who have been lulled into a false security (April 1968).---Ezra Taft Benson, US Secretary of Agriculture 1953-1961 under Eisenhower

Kamala  posted on  2007-10-04   22:08:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Snicker. Pathetic post. Learn to spell. It ain't hard.

Mekons4  posted on  2007-10-04   22:16:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

....is at least honest, and that counts a lot with me.

Well then you can't possibly vote democratic.

Mark

If America is destroyed, it may be by Americans who salute the flag, sing the national anthem, march in patriotic parades, cheer Fourth of July speakers - normally good Americans who fail to comprehend what is required to keep our country strong and free - Americans who have been lulled into a false security (April 1968).---Ezra Taft Benson, US Secretary of Agriculture 1953-1961 under Eisenhower

Kamala  posted on  2007-10-04   22:19:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

And calling others names......

Please show where I called you a "name".

Mark

If America is destroyed, it may be by Americans who salute the flag, sing the national anthem, march in patriotic parades, cheer Fourth of July speakers - normally good Americans who fail to comprehend what is required to keep our country strong and free - Americans who have been lulled into a false security (April 1968).---Ezra Taft Benson, US Secretary of Agriculture 1953-1961 under Eisenhower

Kamala  posted on  2007-10-04   22:24:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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