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Title: Who Wants To Bomb Iran? Democrats, Not Republicans, Says Seymour Hersh
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Published: Oct 4, 2007
Author: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jon-wiener
Post Date: 2007-10-04 21:41:34 by tom007
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Who Wants To Bomb Iran? Democrats, Not Republicans, Says Seymour Hersh

Posted October 4, 2007 | 06:36 PM (EST)

The following piece is part of an ongoing series of OffTheBus reports by citizen policy experts critiquing different aspects of Campaign 08.

When George Bush and Dick Cheney talk about their plans to bomb Iran, they are told "You can't do it, because every Republican is going to be defeated"--that's what a Republican former intelligence official told legendary investigative reporter Seymour Hersh. "But," the former official went on, "Cheney doesn't give a rat's ass about the Republican worries, and neither does the President."

I recently spoke with Hersh, whose new piece, "Target Iran," is featured in The New Yorker this week.

When I asked Hersh who wants to bomb Iran, he said, "Ironically there is a lot of pressure coming from Democrats. Hillary Clinton, Obama, and Edwards have all said we cannot have a nuclear-armed Iran. Clearly the pressure from Democrats is a reflection of - we might as well say it - Israeli and Jewish input." He added the obvious: "a lot of money comes to the Democratic campaigns" from Jewish contributors.

But while Democrats argue that we must "do something" about an Iranian nuclear threat, Hersh says the White House has concluded their own effort to convince Americans that Iran poses an imminent threat has "failed." Apparently the public that bought the story of WMD in Iraq is now singing the classic Who song, "Won't be Fooled Again."

Moreover, Hersh reports, "the general consensus of the American intelligence community is that Iran is at least five years away from obtaining a bomb" - so the public is right to be skeptical.

As a result, according to Hersh, the focus of the plans to bomb Iran has shifted from an attack on Iranian nuclear facilities to an emphasis on the famed "surgical strikes" on Revolutionary Guard Corps facilities in Tehran and elsewhere. The White House hopes it can win public support for this kind of campaign by arguing that the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps is responsible for the deaths of Americans in Iraq.

Why don't Bush and Cheney "give a rat's ass" about getting Republicans reelected to the Senate and the House in 2008? "Of course that was hyperbole to make a point," Hersh said. "When it comes to choice between bombing Iran and taking some political heat, the president will do what he wants. Look, no decision has been made, no order has been given, I've never said it's going to happen. But I had breakfast this morning in Washington with somebody who's close to a lot of military people, and there's a sense among them that the president is essentially messianic about this. He sees this as his mission. It could be because God is telling him to do it. It could be because his daddy didn't do it. It could be because it's step 13 in a 12-step program he was in. I just don't know."

The biggest problem in US relations with Iran, Hersh said, is that Bush refuses to "talk to people he doesn't like. . . . We dealt with China, we dealt with the Soviet Union in those bad days of Stalin and Mao. But there is no pressure whatsoever" coming from the leading Democratic presidential candidates demanding that Bush negotiate with the Iranians rather than bombing them.

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#1. To: tom007 (#0)

Yeah, sure. Seymour, go take a pill. The Repukes are the ones who are trying to nuke Iran. WTF?

Mekons4  posted on  2007-10-04   21:46:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Mekons4 (#1)

Those who blame the Democrats are half-right. Those who blame the GOP are half- right. A pox on both of their houses.

Anyone who thinks that we'd a more sane foreign policy with Hillary than with Rudy or any of the other GOP neocons is an idiot and a half (and vice-versa for those who want to vote for the GOP "lesser evil").

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2007-10-04   21:52:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#2)

Those who blame the Democrats are half-right. Those who blame the GOP are half- right. A pox on both of their houses.

Simplistic. The Dems have been against the war since the git go. You want the Bushies to stay in power? We were FAR FAR FAR better off under Clinton. I can get you the charts, but you probably won't even look at them.

The idea that both parties are the same is insane, you know.

Mekons4  posted on  2007-10-04   22:12:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#6. To: Mekons4 (#4)

Simplistic. The Dems have been against the war since the git go. You want the Bushies to stay in power? We were FAR FAR FAR better off under Clinton. I can get you the charts, but you probably won't even look at them

No, I don't want the Bushies to be in power, I'm just not naive enough to think that the Democrats are any better. Hillary supported the war in Iraq just like the Republicans did. She may want her supporters to THINK that she was against the war all along, but she wasn't. Like her sleazy husband, Hillary's views change by 180 degrees depending on what audience she talks to and what the polls say.

And the economic charts that show us how much better off we were under Clinton - well, I have news for you. The economy goes through cycles. Whether we have a Democrat, a Republican, or Alfred E. Newman in the White House doesn't matter. It's just that when the economy does well, an incumbent gets the credit. When it's on a downswing, the incumbent suffers. Not much more to it than that.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2007-10-04 22:26:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Mekons4, Rupert_Pupkin (#4)

The idea that both parties are the same is insane, you know.

On ME foreign policy both parties are the same. With regards to "indebtedness" to campaign contributions from Jewish donors, Dem Presidential candidates get as much as 60% for their war chest from such donors ( Mearsheimer and Walt)- and yes, strings are attached, what do you think?

www.forward.com/articles/...orite-in-race-for-jewish- donations/

"Hillary the Favorite in Race for Jewish Donations"

"...The haul is important: Strategists say that serious candidates will need to raise at least $50 million — and probably more like $100 million — by the end of the year. They say that money from Jewish donors constitutes about half the donations given to national Democratic candidates (an extremely large pot of gelt long coveted by the GOP).

Clinton will get most of the Jewish community’s money, “first, because she’s going to receive the lion’s share of all [Democratic] political money, and second, because she and her husband are enormously popular with the Jewish community,” said Democratic strategist Steve Rabinowitz, a Clinton supporter.

Rabinowitz, who also “has been helpful” to former North Carolina senator John Edwards, said that “sexy guy” Illinois Senator Barack Obama and Delaware Senator Joseph Biden — “an extremely well-known quantity” to Jews — among others, would get “a piece” of Jewish largesse. But “it just won’t compare to what she gets.”

Clinton, he said, “has personally proved herself to the Jewish community on Israel, on which she was once questioned.”

Among the top Jewish fundraisers who political hands expect to line up with Clinton’s campaign is New Jersey lawyer Lionel Kaplan, a former president of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee who raised money for the former first lady’s 2006 Senate race.

Also expected to turn up in Clinton’s camp is Massachusetts businessman Steve Grossman, another former Aipac president who chaired the Democratic National Committee in the late 1990s. Grossman told the Forward that he’s “not formally committed,” but he added that “everyone knows I’m close to the Clintons.”...

scrapper2  posted on  2007-10-04 22:33:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Mekons4 (#4)

The idea that both parties are the same is insane, you know.

It's professional wrestling with suits and ties. There might be some jockeying of egos among the middle management, but after the cameras are turned off the ones in charge of both sides hang out at the same bars and slap each other on their backs about fooling the rubes. For fuck sake, the Bushes and Clintons vacation together. At the end of the day, they agree on one thing: it's "us" and "them." And the line isn't between political parties, it's between rulers and ruled.

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