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Title: Are Ed and Elaine Brown Dead?
Source: Keene Free Press
URL Source: http://www.keenefreepress.com/mambo ... ent&task=view&id=630&Itemid=36
Published: Oct 6, 2007
Author: Kat Kanning
Post Date: 2007-10-07 12:39:01 by JiminyC
Keywords: None
Views: 3189
Comments: 258

Are Ed and Elaine Brown dead? We don't know - the government won't tell where they are, so we cannot verify their condition. If Ed and Elaine had been hurt during their arrest, it would be in the government's interest to withhold this information, since they obviously fear a violent reaction to the arrest from Brown supporters. Until the government chooses to divulge information on the Brown's whereabouts, we will be unable to verify their condition and will have to assume the worst.

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Riiiight. The same God who said Jews were his chosen people?

You're worshipping a book full of myths, half truths, and stolen stories.

Paul Revere  posted on  2007-10-09   9:55:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

he made a stand. More than 99.99% of the rest of the Umercun peepl.

I agree with you, angle....and as of a few moments ago, he STILL was not listed as being at any prison, and therefore is most likely being given the "diesel therapy", or is dead.

9. EDWARD BROWN 03923-049 65 White M 04-30-2012 NOT IN BOP CUSTODY

www.bop.gov/iloc2/LocateInmate.jsp

[I think it was Eoghan who provided the link]

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2007-10-09   10:00:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The same God who said Jews were his chosen people?

yes...once upon a time....

www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Isa/65/15.html

You're worshipping a book full of myths, half truths, and stolen stories.

nope...I worship the God of truth, not the father of lies.

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2007-10-09   10:06:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Right. Your imaginary buddy agrees with you about everything. Isn't that special?

Paul Revere  posted on  2007-10-09   10:07:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

mock me all you want....God is not mocked....as you will find out to your horror one day.

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2007-10-09   10:11:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I agree w/your comments on this thread rowdee, and the level of stupidity among most Americans is actually the source of comedy on the late night Leno's and such. I have to laugh at those of well meaning folks who still think educating them is the answer. Anne Sullivan had an easier time with Helen Keller.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-10-09   10:13:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I talk to God every day, and he tells me you're full of shit.

Paul Revere  posted on  2007-10-09   10:16:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

then your god must be the father of lies.

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2007-10-09   10:17:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Church: where one inbred retard tells other inbred retards stories they all share as mass delusions.

Where's your god now, Moses?!

Paul Revere  posted on  2007-10-09   11:18:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

For those who wish to know how the law looks at the tax protester issues, here is a decent reference, which I encourage you to consult. Most of the material promoted by tax protesters is wrong. It's one part fantasy, one part stupidity, and one part wishful thinking.

http://evans-legal.com/dan/tpfaq.html

Wishing the tax laws were not there is not the same as making them go away. I hope you will not listen to tax protester nonsense and will take the Brown's experience as a lesson.

For the benefit of those who only take their direction from God, I'll quote Jesus. Those who have ears, let them hear.

Paul Revere  posted on  2007-10-09   11:31:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Church: where one inbred retard tells other inbred retards stories they all share as mass delusions.

"gift" from the delusional jews....

www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Isa/Isa066.html#4

...and their god....

www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Rev/Rev020.html#8

Where's your god now, Moses?!

...coming...

www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Rev/Rev003.html#9 ......

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2007-10-09   11:47:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

For the benefit of those who only take their direction from God, I'll quote Jesus. Those who have ears, let them hear.

www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Mar/Mar004.html#23

www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Mar/4/23.html

Mat 13:9 Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.

Mat 13:10 ¶ And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?

Mat 13:11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.

Mat 13:12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.

Mat 13:13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.

Mat 13:14 And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:

Mat 13:15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and [their] ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with [their] eyes, and hear with [their] ears, and should understand with [their] heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

Mat 13:16 But blessed [are] your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear.

Mat 13:17 For verily I say unto you, That many prophets and righteous [men] have desired to see [those things] which ye see, and have not seen [them]; and to hear [those things] which ye hear, and have not heard [them].

Mat 13:18 ¶ Hear ye therefore the parable of the sower.......

www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Mat/Mat013.html#13

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2007-10-09   11:56:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

For those who wish to know how the law looks at the tax protester issues, here is a decent reference, which I encourage you to consult. Most of the material promoted by tax protesters is wrong. It's one part fantasy, one part stupidity, and one part wishful thinking.

http://evans-legal.com/dan/tpfaq.html

Wishing the tax laws were not there is not the same as making them go away. I hope you will not listen to tax protester nonsense and will take the Brown's experience as a lesson.

For the benefit of those who only take their direction from God, I'll quote Jesus. Those who have ears, let them hear.

But, more filers than non filers are prosecuted. And if you file and the IRS claims you lied that's felony evasion, but not filing (for an ordinary schmoe) is at worst a misdemeanor, and there always lots of chances to pay up if one chickens out.

So, why risk A) a better chance of prosecution and B) a felony charge by filing when its much safer to avoid filing altogether?

And, for young people who've never filed, well, if they never do and if the IRS/DOJ can't prove they even know how to then criminal charges are completely out of the question!

And, it doesn't matter if so called tax protesters' understanding of the law is correct. all that matters is, it's possible to insulate yourself from seizures and liens and then live your life while not participating in the April Fools' Day (the 15th) ritual at all!

The IRS threatened me 15 years ago and I'm still waiting for them to make good on the threat! If I allowed fear mongers to keep me from taking a stand I'd have been bled dry by now and still run a risk of prosecution if I pissed off some politician and he or she sent the IRS to silence me. And, with millions of pages of tax law there's no way anyone can be sure that they are in compliance unless they take no deductions and pay the max, and who can afford that? (That's the whole idea. As one revenoor testified, "The income tax isn't about raising revenue. It's about people control!")

And, that's where you thoroughly compromised Judas goats come in to play! Now, get out there and tell those folks some realllly scary stories, okay?

I l'l laugh my ass off when I think of you staying up late scribbling numbers and looking for ways to claim questionable "deductions", and paying some accountant to packrat receipts for you, then you driving to the post office and fighting to get in the queue and drop your return in the mailbox before the midnight "deadline"!

BWAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH!

Now, make sure you pay your taxes!

BWAAAAAAAHHHHH!

"BOYCOTT AIR TRAVEL! LET'S PUT THOSE TSA IDIOTS ON THE UNEMPLOYMENT LINE!

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-10-09   12:07:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I'm not going to help the government do its job, so I'm not going to dissect your comments. Let's just say I sincerely wish you good luck with that.

Paul Revere  posted on  2007-10-09   12:29:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I have been in touch with Margot Katz of the Concord Monitor and have asked her to look into the whereabouts of Ed. She has responded that she will have an article in the Concord Monitor on this very subject tomorrow. It should be viewable on their website at http://www.concordmonitor.com/

She did not wish to disclose what she knows at this time.

Dumber people than me have done it.

Critter  posted on  2007-10-09   13:51:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Thank you hairy one.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2007-10-09   13:54:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Thanks for the follow-up.

Join the Ron Paul Revolution

Lod  posted on  2007-10-09   13:56:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Anytime fellas.

Even if she has no real info, the fact that an article is written about it will work in Ed's favor in seeing to it that he is not, in fact, being Dieseled.

Dumber people than me have done it.

Critter  posted on  2007-10-09   13:58:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

thanks, Critter.

christine  posted on  2007-10-09   14:04:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The longer this continues, the more I worry about Mr.Brown's well-being.

Join the Ron Paul Revolution

Lod  posted on  2007-10-09   14:13:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

noone222, Pinguinite and the rest

On the "To" line, a comma is needed after the last name if you ping like that or system assumes "Pinguinite and the rest ..." is one big name. It didn't register for me. Just fyi...

Thanks for the update.

Pinguinite.com EcuadorTreasures.ec

Pinguinite  posted on  2007-10-09   14:20:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Who are the Browns?

exdem2000  posted on  2007-10-09   14:43:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Who are the Browns?

Exactly. With the suspension of habeas corpus, "don't ask, don't tell" applies to citizens who are disappeared by the government.

Paul Revere  posted on  2007-10-09   15:03:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Thanks. Please keep me pinged.

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"Abe Foxman, my good friend and partner." - John Negroponte

Read New History

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JiminyC  posted on  2007-10-09   15:15:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Who are the Browns?

The exact question I was asked by a "progressive" acquaintance when I mentioned them today.

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"Abe Foxman, my good friend and partner." - John Negroponte

Read New History

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JiminyC  posted on  2007-10-09   15:16:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

here's the closet thing to Jesus in recent times

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Paul Revere  posted on  2007-10-09   15:38:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I don't have video...coming from you, it's probably blasphemous anyway.

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2007-10-09   16:54:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

www.prisonplanet.com/arti...007/091007_armed_feds.htm

Armed Feds Question Bloggers In Brown Case

Manhunt ensues as Marshals search for alleged "hit list"

EXCERPT Hampton questioned the Feds on why they chose to visit the home of a blogger who has never advocated violence in light of a new report criticizing marshals for their failure to protect federal judges and investigate genuine threats of violence against them. END

angle  posted on  2007-10-09   21:02:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

ladyliberty.wordpress.com...ited-guests-from-the-gov/

Blog author receives uninvited guests from the gov

EXCERPT: "Satire became reality Friday afternoon when half a dozen armed federal agents wearing body armor showed up at this author’s home and detained everyone in the house for nearly 90 minutes to determine who might pose a threat to the government." END

angle  posted on  2007-10-09   21:11:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Atheism is the religion of the spiritually blind. Don't be too harsh, Paul's Handicapped !!!!!

"The mighty are only mighty because we are on our knees. Let us rise!" --Camille Desmoulins

noone222  posted on  2007-10-09   21:15:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Hampton questioned the Feds on why they chose to visit the home of a blogger who has never advocated violence in light of a new report criticizing marshals for their failure to protect federal judges and investigate genuine threats of violence against them.

this is NUTS and sure does not bode well for Ed.

christine  posted on  2007-10-09   22:01:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

He laid it on the line though, didn't he? Maybe Ed wasn't too bright about the reality of a possible revolution. Nonetheless, he made a stand. More than 99.99% of the rest of the Umercun peepl.

.. as I said.. I think he was foolish .. and I still do.. if he believed that his 'stand' was going to do anything other than cause him a world of trouble .. if he believed it would do otherwise for he and his family..he was sorely mistaken obviously.

Zipporah  posted on  2007-10-09   22:16:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I think he was foolish .. and I still do.. if he believed that his 'stand' was going to do anything other than cause him a world of trouble .. if he believed it would do otherwise for he and his family

Well then, perhaps we should all just sit on our asses while having this country stolen out from underneath those same asses rather than risk being foolish. I'm saying the guy deserves some credit for making a stand against tyranny, more than most here can claim.

If Paul Revere was shot to death before he put out the word, perhaps you would consider him foolish as well.

angle  posted on  2007-10-10   7:58:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Atheism is the religion of the spiritually blind. Don't be too harsh, Paul's Handicapped !!!!!

No, Sparky. You and your blind buddy are the guys spoken of in the Bible - the blind who lead the blind and they both fall in the ditch.

You are very typical, however, of your brand of "Christian." You're all about your ancient stories and transformed pagan rituals. You worship your own ignorance and idiocy, and call it God's will. You're really no different than the Taliban and the retards who follow them.

You're everything Jesus preached against, the antithesis of his views and teachings.

Paul Revere  posted on  2007-10-10   8:40:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Imagine there's no heaven ....

Paul Revere  posted on  2007-10-10   8:41:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

...for you :)

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2007-10-10   22:04:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Thank you...I didn't see this yesterday.

It has been rumored that some militant supporters of the Browns have threatened revenge attacks. We would like to remind those people that their actions are completely abhorrent and will only bring untold misery to legitimate peaceful supporters of the Browns who are highlighting the case as part of a process of educating the public about the IRS and the illegal income tax.

I wouldn't be surprised if federal agents provocateur are planning to do just that....bring untold misery...

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2007-10-10   22:14:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I wouldn't be terribly surprised if the threats of revenge attacks were MADE by agents provocateur.

RidinShotgun  posted on  2007-10-10   22:18:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

good point.

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2007-10-10   22:24:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

http://ladyliberty.wordpress.com...ited-guests-from-the-gov/

Blog author receives uninvited guests from the gov

I'm reading this one now. Did you catch this comment???

"...I am not too surprised that your friend received that visit from the D.O.P. I have never been visited, but when I still blogged over at Daily Kos, My diaries were shut down for sedition by the Government. They were in no way close to seditious. They just spoke out about the corrupt Bush administration, and called to bring it down......

americanbadass607 said this on October 9, 2007 at 6:18 am"

Now I REALLY wonder where BTP Holdings is....what with him being very vocal about needing more rope for the fascist creeps.

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2007-10-10   22:32:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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