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Title: Are Ed and Elaine Brown Dead?
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Keene Free Press
URL Source: http://www.keenefreepress.com/mambo ... ent&task=view&id=630&Itemid=36
Published: Oct 6, 2007
Author: Kat Kanning
Post Date: 2007-10-07 12:39:01 by JiminyC
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Views: 2944
Comments: 258
Are Ed and Elaine Brown dead? We don't know - the government won't tell where they are, so we cannot verify their condition. If Ed and Elaine had been hurt during their arrest, it would be in the government's interest to withhold this information, since they obviously fear a violent reaction to the arrest from Brown supporters. Until the government chooses to divulge information on the Brown's whereabouts, we will be unable to verify their condition and will have to assume the worst.
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#2. To: JiminyC (#1)
Gordon Kahl didn't have the grassroots awareness that the Browns have, thanks to the internet.
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Fair question, indeed. Normally gov loves to show their captives doing the perp-walk all chained up.
One major difference between the Browns and Gordon Kahl is that Kahl didn't tie himself down to a "compound" where fake patriots could waltz in and surround him. Even so, from what I can recall, the mentally challenged daughter of the people who took Gordon in down in Arkansas, turned him in and it all went swiftly downhill from there. Its fair to assume the Browns have been separated and could possibly be undergoing diesel therapy, being moved from place to place so they can't be located by their supporters. I doubt if they're dead, but being alive is probably exremely difficult for them right now. And all we can do is stand around wringing our hands. Pukesville.
Federal Inmate Loccator www.bop.gov/ inmate_locator/index.jsp The Bureau is responsible for the custody and care of sentenced Federal inmates, as well as a significant number of pretrial detainees and pre- sentenced offenders for the U.S. Marshals Service and the Immigration and Naturalization Service. The Bureau also has custodial responsibility for District of Columbia felons sentenced to terms of imprisonment. Name Register Number Age Race Sex Release Date Actual / Projected Location Sorry. No Inmate Named EDWARD LEWIS BROWN Age: 65 Race: White Sex: Male found. Locate a Federal Inmate (includes all inmates from 1982 to present) Name Register Number Age Race Sex Release Date Actual / Projected Location Sorry. No Inmate Named ELAINE ALICE BROWN Age: 64 Race: White Sex: Female found.
Unless displaying the captives will make the sheeple think or unless the captives are dead or injured.
Read New History
I ask everyone I know if they know about the Browns' story and attempt to educate if they sem interested. That's about the best that I can do.
Read New History
Sorry. No Inmate Named ELAINE ALICE BROWN Age: 64 Race: White Sex: Female found. The Soviets would have been jealous of these tactics.
Read New History
Why is the 1st we've heard from their "arrest" from the jackboots instead of the Browns during the assault??? I thought they had visitors helping, cell phones, internet...why nothing from them prior to the raid??
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition i'll NEVER understand why they did this. they had to have known this is the MO of the feds.
Do we know if Ed carried while in his home?
That's exactly what is going on, I think. I got arrested by ATF a long time ago and got a guided tour of every jail in New Hampshire for a couple of weeks so I couldn't be found by friends. They actually indicted me at 1 a.m. in a private office so the lawyer who was trying to represent me couldn't attend. The last thing they want is for these people to be bailed out quickly. I don't have much sympathy for the Browns' cause but I have sympathy for them personally. At least they're in jail in New Hampshire...the jails are kinda crude, but they're not likely to be mistreated. I had cops and jailers making phone calls to friends to let them know where I was. They could have been fired, probably, but they hated the freakin feds more than I did.
Honi soit qui mal y pense
There's no 'bail' to be involved. They have already been sentenced to jail. Last I read they were turned over to transport authorities, apparently to put them in the facilities where they are to serve their sentences.
Ed "Lewis" as chose to be called at the end of his freedom turned out to be a few cards short of a full deck. God bless him and his wife but they made a mess of what remains of their life. If I were making their income I'd have hired a crackerjack CPA and paid as least tribute as possible to the authorities and gone on with my life.
The battle that they chose to fight has to be one of the most risky of them all. Even AJ has decided to pay his tribute so that he can do what he does...
Hopefully not the max security one in CO that puts people in solitary confinement 23.5/7. That place is an insanity factory.
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There are tons of people who do this that we never hear about. Ed was the exception that chose otherwise as a matter of conscience, for which we respect him.
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won't they put in federal prisons? are you saying that the locals who work in the NH fed prisons are likely to be kinder?
in all the pics and video i saw, he had a piece on his hip.
Thanks - that just makes it stranger and stranger to moi...
They couldn't have done it without the Feds.
Read New History
They have more conviction and courage in their little fingertip than you'll ever hope to have.
conviction and courage, yes, but you can't deny that their decisions from beginning to this end has ruined their lives. they are both in their 60s. the feds are going to pile more charges on them and they'll be lucky if they ever see each other again. as hard as this is to say, they'll probably die behind bars. not only that, the government will take everything they own. so much for the Live Free or Die motto. i would bet that right now they're regretting the decisions they made too. Tom Cryer lucked out in his case. he said so and he and Larry Becraft both advised everyone, "folks don't try this at home."
Agreed.. now what? What they've worked for all their lives will be gone.. done ..finished. All the time and money wasted for what was a losing proposition from the start.. there are battles and there are battles this isnt one that was winnable IMO.
Courage? Mr. Brown, prior to his battle w/the IRS, was a multi millionaire. Toward the end of his odyssey, he referred to himself as “Mr Lewis“. He mentally fell off the cliff and took his wife with him. He's forever is relegated to the patriot KooK Hall of Fame and someone whose tactics should be a reminder of the insanity that grips some decent folks in the patriot movement.
What we are seeing in cases such as this is the same thing ancient tyrants did when they had petty lords in far off regions ignoring their demands for tribute: They lay siege on the recalcitrant, they eventually go in, seize the recalcitrant, and promptly impale him for all to see. They seize all his property, and cast forever his memory as an enemy of the state. These two will never see the light of day again, sadly.
These two will never see the light of day again, sadly. IMO it was a fool's mission.. those who have money will not win.. and as I said b/f to what end? Exactly what has happened.. they've lost everything.. their legacy is just as youve said.. enemies of the state. Those who encouraged these people to stay the course.. need to be flogged.
I agree, and since not a soul except a few on scatered internet forums know of their troubles, their effort was a waste.
And the contrary is also true. Many folks choose to fight the system only to be beaten down like a dog, w/o anyone except their immediate families knowing the devistation they suffer. Here’s my best advice for anyone who gives a rip what I think; if you have assets, and choose to stay in America, pay the bastards the least amt. of $ you can get away with. If you have nothing,be my guest and test all these wild tax theories. Should they fail, bolt the nation.
Since we don't even know where they are, let's withhold judgment.
My god, so was Paul freakin Revere's.
There are things more important than money.
If anyone failed, it was us, the ones who knew and did nothing; who know and do nothing.
We don't really know if they're in a jail in New Hampshire, do we? If they're being treated to diesel therapy, like they did to Rep. George Hanson who wrote "To Harass Our People" detailing IRS abuses (a book everyone should read), they'd no doubt be spending more time in the air or on busses than they would be in any particular facility. The thing that confuses me is that I was under the impression that the Browns were never alone on their property and that there was a constant stream of supporters staying with them. If that's true, there could be a lot more to this story than we're currently hearing and I guess the only way we'll know about that for sure is if the friends and families of people who were supposed to be there start wondering why they aren't checking in with them on a regular basis.
When I visited Ed, he carried a 45 tucked in the back of his pants. I was let in without a search and without much skepticism. I found the lack of scrutiny quite unsettling.
Dumber people than me have done it.
Not good, at all. Thank you for the report.
I suppose they didn't like the idea of living on the run while their self- sufficient property just sat there vacant. Besides, running would be especially hard for a woman of Elaine's age. And obviously they believed they'd have enough support for their cause ... sadly, the shoe just hasn't pinched enough toes quite tight enough yet so widespread support just isn't there. Of course by the time it is finally there, it'll be WAY too late.
No, Revere had an army of patriots behind him and he/they fired a shot. We don't, hence a useless effort.
Ed alienated a lot of potential support. I know this from first hand experience with him. Anyone with any sense bailed out on him pretty early on.
Dumber people than me have done it.
So you think no patriots suffered greatly at the hands of the king PRIOR to Paul Revere's ride? It all started that night? He came with a ready made army and there was no quibbling, or violent disagreements amongst the colonists about which course of action should be taken.
Anyone with any sense bailed out on him pretty early on. Sure. Everybody wants to run the show and I suppose he was no different in that regard, since it was his show. And his conviction. Unfortunately, people can be right and still piss a lot of people off in the process. Whether or not he was right isn't mine to judge, it was his neck on the block, so I'll cut him some slack.
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#3. To: JiminyC (#0)
#4. To: JiminyC (#1)
Remember what happened to Gordon Kahl.
#5. To: JiminyC (#1)
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"Yes, but is this good for Jews?"
#6. To: lodwick (#3)
Normally gov loves to show their captives doing the perp-walk all chained up.
#7. To: RidinShotgun (#4)
And all we can do is stand around wringing our hands.
#8. To: Eoghan (#5)
Sorry. No Inmate Named EDWARD LEWIS BROWN Age: 65 Race: White Sex: Male found.
#9. To: JiminyC, christine (#0)
"There is no 'legitimate' Corporation by virtue of it's very legal definition and purpose."
-- IndieTx
#10. To: RidinShotgun, IndieTx, JiminyC, Eoghan (#4)
One major difference between the Browns and Gordon Kahl is that Kahl didn't tie himself down to a "compound" where fake patriots could waltz in and surround him.
#11. To: christine. the thread (#10)
#12. To: RidinShotgun (#4)
Its fair to assume the Browns have been separated and could possibly be undergoing diesel therapy, being moved from place to place so they can't be located by their supporters.
#13. To: Mekons4 (#12)
#14. To: JiminyC (#0)
#15. To: Jethro Tull. everyone (#14)
If I were making their income I'd have hired a crackerjack CPA and paid as least tribute as possible to the authorities and gone on with my life.
#16. To: rowdee (#13)
#17. To: Jethro Tull (#14)
If I were making their income I'd have hired a crackerjack CPA and paid as least tribute as possible to the authorities and gone on with my life.
#18. To: Mekons4 (#12)
At least they're in jail in New Hampshire...the jails are kinda crude, but they're not likely to be mistreated. I had cops and jailers making phone calls to friends to let them know where I was.
#19. To: lodwick (#11)
#20. To: christine (#19)
in all the pics and video i saw, he had a piece on his hip.
#21. To: Jethro Tull (#14)
God bless him and his wife but they made a mess of what remains of their life.
#22. To: Jethro Tull (#14)
#23. To: angle (#22)
#24. To: christine (#23)
#25. To: angle (#22)
(Edited)
They have more conviction and courage in their little fingertip than you'll ever hope to have.
#26. To: Zipporah (#24)
Agreed.. now what? What they've worked for all their lives will be gone.. done ..finished. All the time and money wasted for what was a losing proposition from the start.. there are battles and there are battles this isnt one that was winnable IMO.
#27. To: Paul Revere (#26)
What we are seeing in cases such as this is the same thing ancient tyrants did when they had petty lords in far off regions ignoring their demands for tribute: They lay siege on the recalcitrant, they eventually go in, seize the recalcitrant, and promptly impale him for all to see. They seize all his property, and cast forever his memory as an enemy of the state.
#28. To: Paul Revere (#26)
These two will never see the light of day again, sadly.
#29. To: Pinguinite (#17)
There are tons of people who do this that we never hear about.
#30. To: Jethro Tull. everyone (#28)
I agree, and since not a soul except a few on scattered internet forums know of their troubles, their effort was a waste.
#31. To: Zipporah (#27)
IMO it was a fool's mission..
#32. To: Jethro Tull (#25)
Mr. Brown, prior to his battle w/the IRS, was a multi millionaire.
#33. To: christine (#23)
#34. To: Mekons4, JiminyC (#12)
At least they're in jail in New Hampshire..
#35. To: lodwick (#11)
#36. To: Critter (#35)
#37. To: christine (#10)
i'll NEVER understand why they did this. they had to have known this is the MO of the feds.
#38. To: angle (#31)
My god, so was Paul freakin Revere's.
#39. To: RidinShotgun, christine, all (#37)
#40. To: Jethro Tull (#38)
(Edited)
No, Revere had an army of patriots behind him and he/they fired a shot. We don't, hence a useless effort.
#41. To: Critter (#39)
Ed alienated a lot of potential support. I know this from first hand experience with him.
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