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Title: Call for Jews to stop calling Jesus a bastard
Source: The Telegraph
URL Source: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/mai ... /news/2007/10/06/wjesus106.xml
Published: Oct 10, 2007
Author: Ben Martin
Post Date: 2007-10-10 09:52:17 by Eoghan
Keywords: None
Views: 254
Comments: 6

A senior American cardinal has asked Jews to reconsider descriptions of Jesus as a "bastard" in exchange for a softening of traditional Catholic prayers calling for Jews to be converted to Christianity.

The controversial comments, by Cardinal Francis George of the Archdiocese of Chicago, concern a prayer said during Easter celebrations by the small number of parishes or priests who celebrate a particular form of Good Friday mass.

Those version of Good Friday prayers calls for the congregation to pray for Jews to be converted to Christianity.

But Cardinal George said this prayer should be amended to ensure it did not offend Jews.

"I suspect (the amendment) probably will be (made), because the intention is to be sure that our prayers are not offensive to the Jewish people who are our ancestors in the faith," Cardinal George said in an interview with the National Catholic Reporter.

"We can't possibly insult them in our liturgy - not that any group has a veto on anybody's prayers, because you can go through Jewish texts and find material that is offensive to us. But if we're interested in keeping the dialogue strong, and we have to be, we should be very cautious about any prayer that they find insulting."

But this should mean that Jews, in turn, consider amending their own religious texts, he said.

"It does work both ways. Maybe this is an opening to say, 'Would you care to look at some of the Talmudic literature's description of Jesus as a bastard, and so on, and maybe make a few changes in some of that?'"


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#1. To: Eoghan (#0)

The Talmud under assault, this must be the Middle Ages ;)

About time!

A senior American cardinal has asked Jews to reconsider descriptions of Jesus as a "bastard" in exchange for a softening of traditional Catholic prayers calling for Jews to be converted to Christianity.

An interesting exchange.

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robin  posted on  2007-10-10   10:15:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Eoghan (#0)

Jesus, if he existed, was a Jew and he was a bastard, as that term was understood in his time. His mother got preggers before she lay with her husband. She CLAIMED it was God, but really, who knows?

I find this whole story comical. Jews and Catholics pissing and moaning about their imaginary gods and their hurt feelings over words. A pox on both.

Paul Revere  posted on  2007-10-10   10:31:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Eoghan (#0)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2007-10-10   10:43:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: ghostdogtxn (#3)

It's about what each group finds offensive.

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robin  posted on  2007-10-10   10:46:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: ghostdogtxn. all (#3)

You quit calling our savior a bastard and we'll quit trying to save your souls?

win win situation

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Lod  posted on  2007-10-10   10:49:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Eoghan (#0)

What are you doing? No, get off. See, you gotta make my bunk. See, we're in Italy. The guy on the top bunk has gotta make the guy on the bottom's bed all the time. It's in the regulations. If we were in Germany I would have to make yours.

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Tauzero  posted on  2007-10-10   10:52:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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