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Title: 'Video Professor' sues anonymous griping posters, demands their identities
Source: Consumer and Law Policy Blog
URL Source: http://pubcit.typepad.com/clpblog/2007/09/video-professor.html
Published: Sep 21, 2007
Author: Greg Beck
Post Date: 2007-10-10 16:04:20 by Peppa
Keywords: free speech, consumer protection
Views: 206
Comments: 14

Video Professor, a company that uses infomercials to sell computer-training lessons, sued 100 anonymous "John Doe" posters who expressed their opinions about the company on various online forums, including http://www.infomercialratings.com. The company's lawsuit claims that the griping posters violated federal trademark laws by saying negative things about the company, and committed defamation and several violations of state law. After filing suit, the company sent subpoenas to the operator of the websites, demanding the release of the posters' identifying information and the IP addresses from which they made the posts. Here's the complaint and the company's motion to subpoena the anonymous posters' identity. The challenged posts are here and here.

The Internet has become the preeminent forum for consumers to share information about products and services online. Courts have recognized that the First Amendment protects the right to post criticism anonymously, noting the risk that critical opinions would be chilled if the identity of anonymous critics could too easily be revealed. Indeed, Video Professor's own website advises consumers to search for customer reviews online:

[I]f you decide to use a lesser-known merchant, there are a few things you can do to check out the seller and make sure he’s legit. For one, you can visit the Federal Trade Commission’s Web site for links to consumer protection resources, including lists of complaints lodged against businesses. You also have the option of searching the business section of a major search engine, where you can view company profiles and customer reviews of that company’s products and services. Last but not least, you can request that a seller send you a catalog or other information about his or her company.

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My colleague Paul Levy sent a letter to Video Professor today objecting to the subpoena.

Posted by Greg Beck on Friday, September 21, 2007 at 02:44 PM in Free Speech, Intellectual Property & Consumer Issues, Internet Issues, Privacy | Permalink TrackBack
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I would be happy to provide my full name, address, and phone to Videoprofessor so they can serve me with a subpeona because I just sent truthful facts to http://informercialratings.com. I did not express my opinion, only the facts. Futher, I read some of the comments by others and I they were far more explicit and open than the videoprofessor commercials. I certainly that hope that video professor does pursue civil litigation and those named as defendants file a countersuit and produce their own infomercials to educate others and attract other plaintiffs in a class action suit.

Posted by: Ron K | Monday, September 24, 2007 at 01:06 PM


This issue is important to consumers! This is a draconian attack on the very foundation of the First Amendment Speech. An entity or a person with 'deep' pockets believes he can suppress Free Speech through financial intimidation is no different than a foreign junta or a dictatorial regime arresting their opponents for their expression of free speech through military or police action.

Can you imagine where this would lead? Let's warp this ahead in time and say that Video Professor is successful in his suit against the defendants in this case. According to an article in the Denver Post, he promises to take this all the way up to the Supreme Court. Would this not have a chilling effect on every negative review of a product, movie, politician, corporate business practice, restaurant, movie etc.? Could not this open the legal floodgates for anyone who has received a negative review claiming the same cause for libel and defamation? I would lead you to another similar celebrated cases being fought against a book review at various places on the web.
http://richarddawkins.net/articl...n-a-blog-post,Boing-Boing or

Here:

http://www.boingboing.net/2007/0...writer-sued-for-a-ne.html.

Here:

http://www.angiegotsued.com/

Would this not suppress every critic out there or limit their comments in a fog of possible litigation?

The bottom line is this. Can a person or a corporate entity who has unlimited financial and legal resources be able to use the judicial system to suppress the Free Speech of outspoken critics who he KNOWS does not have access to those same resources? Litigation in the court system is expensive.

A lawyer can bury the other side in paperwork with legal tactics and strategies using depositions, interrogatories, subpoenas, delays, appeals etc. There is no way that the average consumer has the economic resources to legally fight such a strategy and they knows this. So in effect, they are able silence their critics by De Facto litigation. However, the chilling aftermath of all this is a suppression of the basic First Amendment Rights and Consumer Advocacy.


More comments at URL, if interested.

Posting this because I am sick of his ad, and the glassy eyed 'adult woman' (whose 3 year old daughter is smarter than she is half of the time, carry the one), who 'really lernd-a-lot frum the excel,guhaa haa..dohdeedohdoh

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#1. To: Peppa (#0)

Anyone dopey enough to order from VidProf...well, is not a genius.

Join the Ron Paul Revolution

Lod  posted on  2007-10-10   16:10:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: lodwick (#1)

Anyone dopey enough to order from VidProf...well, is not a genius.

Agreed.

But when they complain, the Professor gets very very mad. Free CD, with a Fascist style smackdown.

Peppa  posted on  2007-10-10   16:16:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Peppa (#2)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2007-10-10   16:20:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: ghostdogtxn (#3)

Great line. Nice to see you Peppa.

Thanks GDT! Nice to see you too !

Peppa  posted on  2007-10-10   16:26:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Peppa (#0)

'Video Professor' sues anonymous griping posters, demands their identities

I think the same thing happened to the producers of

Hooked on Fonix. /s

If I've learned anything from the illegal aliens flooding into our nation, it's that you don't ask for liberty, you TAKE IT! (me)

"I am further of opinion that it would be better for us to have [no laws] at all than to have them in so prodigious numbers as we have."
Michel Eyquem, seigneur de Montaigne (1533–1592)

catcher  posted on  2007-10-10   17:01:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: catcher (#5)

Hooked on Fonix. /s

;)

Preying on those trying to improve themselves is wrong though.

Peppa  posted on  2007-10-10   17:48:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Peppa. all (#6)

Preying on those trying to improve themselves is wrong though.

The people who buy info-mercial "stuff," generally do not have the deepest of pockets.

Why not put out good products for a fair price, instead of giving away garbage + S&H, to make your profit?

Join the Ron Paul Revolution

Lod  posted on  2007-10-10   18:03:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: lodwick (#7)

The people who buy info-mercial "stuff," generally do not have the deepest of pockets.

Why not put out good products for a fair price, instead of giving away garbage + S&H, to make your profit?

I have a fabulous set of mop handles with changeable mop heads, with special squeeze bucket, the commemorative Wizard of OZ video with script, and unique cat toy with a special cardboard grid to spike with catnip. And the meat thawing thing. Euro Sealer. Numerous exercise videos. Time Life collection of Spanish Guitar and Bluegrass music.

I won't tell you what I spent, but I apparently I should hide my wallet and phone between the hours of 3 & 4 a.m. Of course I've learned my lesson. Ever get sucked into the BMG or Columbia house 12 CD's for 99Cents? That's how it all started. Music. The drug that cracks the wallet.

The meat thawing board has survived rigorous testing, and was worth it. I'm sure I was the envy of all the neighbors, thawing meat at record speed. Now they sell for 9$ at Walgreens.

PS: I agree with all you said.

Peppa  posted on  2007-10-10   18:18:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Peppa (#0)

I am seeking a honest opinion from a true user of the Video-stupid. Does 'the product' suck or does it stink?

Now, knowing the high-quality of this site's members, I am almost certain that no one who could reply to this post could have bought that stupid professor's 'product'.

The Video Professor. When the moment is right... APPLY DIRECTLY ON THE FOREHEAD!
The Video Professor. When the moment is right... APPLY DIRECTLY ON THE FOREHEAD!

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2007-10-10   18:31:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#9)

To: Peppa I am seeking a honest opinion from a true user of the Video-stupid. Does 'the product' suck or does it stink?

Now, knowing the high-quality of this site's members, I am almost certain that no one who could reply to this post could have bought that stupid professor's 'product'.

The Video Professor. When the moment is right... APPLY DIRECTLY ON THE FOREHEAD! The Video Professor. When the moment is right... APPLY DIRECTLY ON THE FOREHEAD!

ROFLMBO!

I found the story at the consumer law blog, and thought, the commerical is bad enough, and now this creep is getting jackboot about complaints.

I am not now, nor have I ever been, a user of a video computer training. I won't even use the tutorial that comes with my software. I have standards. ;)

Peppa  posted on  2007-10-10   18:57:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Peppa (#0)

The bottom line is this. Can a person or a corporate entity who has unlimited financial and legal resources be able to use the judicial system to suppress the Free Speech of outspoken critics who he KNOWS does not have access to those same resources? Litigation in the court system is expensive.

This is a variation of a corporate dirty trick known as a SLAPP suit. (Strategic Lawsuit Against Public Participation)

It was originally used to harass activists who interfered with corporations whose logging, digging, building or otherwise impacting the environment was unacceptable to their opponents (often after the companies bribed their way past bureaucratic obstacles and environmental impact statements) and the theory was this:

If a pain-in-the-ass activist is too busy defending against a lawsuit by a powerful corporation to worry about the environmental rapist anymore, not only does it streamline the process of building or destroying or acquiring the land and poisoning the water, but others will see the target struggling to keep from losing his/her home and their kids' college money and will also lose interest in what corporations are doing. These corporations would hire investigators to snoop around and ask if activists had any secrets that could be uncovered such as an inflatable friend or a spicy movie collection. The types of questions asked would invariably get back to those targeted and it was very intimidating.

Several states have passed anti-SLAPP legislation, and if it can be demonstrated that the opposition to a corporate plan is legit and based on facts then a judge may declare the suit a SLAPP and dismiss it.

Now, Video Professor is betting that websites that host product feedback won't want to fight a federal (diversity jurisdiction) lawsuit just to host people's reviews and they'll take those public comment sites down to avoid the legal hassles.

Rather than sue the customers (although they claim that is the purpose of the subpoenas) the purpose is to chill the websites with the added benefit of minimizing nego reviews on sites that do comply and release customer or reviewer info.

I have a feeling that this will backfire on VP.

Not only will they lose, but if all goes well the bastards will go bankrupt because of this dirty trick.

"BOYCOTT AIR TRAVEL! LET'S PUT THOSE TSA IDIOTS ON THE UNEMPLOYMENT LINE!

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-10-10   19:34:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: HOUNDDAWG (#11)

Rather than sue the customers (although they claim that is the purpose of the subpoenas) the purpose is to chill the websites with the added benefit of minimizing nego reviews on sites that do comply and release customer or reviewer info.

I have a feeling that this will backfire on VP.

Not only will they lose, but if all goes well the bastards will go bankrupt because of this dirty trick.

HD,

Thanks for the great information around all of this. I hope this backfires as well. The fact he went to the extreme of identification he did, tells us much about his motives to 'help' people. It tells us, it's not about computer training at all, but about control of the internet.

Chilly.

The handbasket has landed.

Peppa  posted on  2007-10-10   20:05:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Peppa (#12)

HD,

Thanks for the great information around all of this. I hope this backfires as well. The fact he went to the extreme of identification he did, tells us much about his motives to 'help' people. It tells us, it's not about computer training at all, but about control of the internet.

You're welcome and, thank you!

LOL!

Chilly Peppa!

"BOYCOTT AIR TRAVEL! LET'S PUT THOSE TSA IDIOTS ON THE UNEMPLOYMENT LINE!

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-10-11   5:21:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: HOUNDDAWG (#13)

Chilly Peppa!

;)

The handbasket has landed.

Peppa  posted on  2007-10-11   9:31:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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