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Title: Slaughter of the Innocents - Something is Rotten in Iraq and the Pentagon
Source: ICH
URL Source: http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article18557.htm
Published: Oct 16, 2007
Author: Dave Lindorff
Post Date: 2007-10-16 11:11:53 by richard9151
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10/15/07 "Counterpunch" -- --

Isn't it odd that in the air attack that the US military claims killed 19 high-ranking leaders of Al Qaeda in Mesopotamia and 15 civilians, all the slain Al Qaeda members were men and all the men were Al Qaeda, while all the civilians were women (6) and children (9)?

Think about this a minute.

This means that no women were Al Qaeda--and yet we know that women also fight, and also blow themselves up as suicide bombers. Yet these women were all civilians. The children, of course, were children.

And we're to believe that there were no men who were innocent bystanders? All those adult males who were killed were "bad guys."

Yet there were innocent bystanders: the women and the children. Somehow, any innocent bystanding men managed to duck out of the way, or the bullets and bomb fragments (and I'm sure they were fragmentation bombs that were used, as well as a withering spray of machine-gun fire) that hit all those poor women and kids, just somehow (magically?) missed the men.

Pretty amazing huh?

Except that it's an absurd claim that should insult our intelligence.

It's not like the Pentagon has a list of all the enemy fighters, after all. What actually happens is the military has people come in after an action, and they find all these dead people. They look at the guys and have to decide, are they fighters or are they civilians? If the guy's got a gun in his hand, or nearby, they might assume he's a fighter, but is that a good test in a country where every guy has an AK47? And if he doesn't have a gun? Do you honestly think all 19 of those dead guys had a gun with him? I doubt it. These were people fleeing an attack by US troops and planes. They were--whether fighters or ordinary citizens--fleeing for their lives in a surprise attack. If they didn't have a gun with them at the time, they wouldn't have stopped to get one.

And since they don't let reporters travel independently to these battle sites and check what happened, who knows if they even bother looking for evidence. (And this doesn't even get to the point that they call every kill a "terrorist" or member of Al Qaeda, when odds are that if they are combatants they are neither, but rather some other insurgent group or other just fighting to drive the US out.)

It's clear to me that what we're getting is a big lie. Just as in Vietnam the troops would just count the bodies and turn in a report saying that was how many VC were killed, in Iraq (and Afghanistan), they count the men and call them the enemy.

Nobody calls them on this. Certainly nobody in what used to be called the free press.

The numbers are simply accepted as fact and dutifully reported to us.

The truth: we are conducting a slaughter of innocents in Iraq that is as bad as anything the Nazis did in their Eastern Front campaign.

Dave Lindorff is the author of Killing Time: an Investigation into the Death Row Case of Mumia Abu-Jamal. His book of CounterPunch columns titled "This Can't be Happening!" is published by Common Courage Press. Lindorff's newest book is "The Case for Impeachment", co-authored by Barbara Olshansky.

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#1. To: richard9151 (#0)

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Lod  posted on  2007-10-16   11:20:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: richard9151 (#0)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2007-10-16   13:21:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: richard9151 (#0)

The truth: we are conducting a slaughter of innocents in Iraq that is as bad as anything the Nazis did in their Eastern Front campaign.

War in the Wild East: The German Army and Soviet Partisans .

It so happens that, in their conduct in Russia, Hitler and the Germans were consciously imitating the behavior of Americans towards Indians in the 19th century. Not for nothing had Hitler in his youth been a fan of the Wild West novels of Karl May.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2007-10-16   14:32:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: richard9151 (#0)

anything the Nazis did in their Eastern Front campaign.

Or as the Russians did in their Western Front campaign into Poland, Latvia, Estonia and Lithuania in 1939.

Cynicom  posted on  2007-10-16   14:41:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: richard9151 (#0)

The truth: we are conducting a slaughter of innocents in Iraq that is as bad as anything the Nazis did in their Eastern Front campaign.

Right, wrong or indifferent we MUST "stay the course".

Moreover, we had best hurry up and start killing in Iran before we have $12 a gallon gasoline!!!!

"If ignorance is bliss, why aren't more people happy?"

ladybug  posted on  2007-10-16   15:54:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: ladybug (#5)

Right, wrong or indifferent we MUST "stay the course".

Right, it's the only logical thing to do.

It's kinda like a truck delivering wigits and the CEO imforms the board that the company is losing 10 cents a widit, well one of the board members says "hell, we will just have to get a bigger truck then"

A "conservative" is a draft animal that claims we must wear our yokes more or less as they're placed on us. A "liberal" is a draft animal that claims we have a right to shift the yokes from time to time.

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." --- William Casey, Director CIA (Quote from internal staff meeting notes 1981)

intotheabyss  posted on  2007-10-16   16:02:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: intotheabyss (#6)

A "conservative" is a draft animal that claims we must wear our yokes more or less as they're placed on us. A "liberal" is a draft animal that claims we have a right to shift the yokes from time to time.

I like that.

Ummm. Actually, no, I DO NOT like that, but it certainly rings truer than any other description of the two that I have ever read. At least, as it pertains to the United States!

When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest.

richard9151  posted on  2007-10-16   17:30:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: richard9151, lodwick (#7)

At least, as it pertains to the United States!

In most banana republics at least the people know what they have.

Here in bizzaro land the average slub still thinks we have a choice and have freedom. While they wire tap us at will with no legal recourse and actual immunity given to the phone companies, the Zionists dictate our foreign policy, private interests control our economy and our courts are no longer constitutional.

A "conservative" is a draft animal that claims we must wear our yokes more or less as they're placed on us. A "liberal" is a draft animal that claims we have a right to shift the yokes from time to time.

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." --- William Casey, Director CIA (Quote from internal staff meeting notes 1981)

intotheabyss  posted on  2007-10-17   11:42:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: intotheabyss (#8)

In most banana republics at least the people know what they have.

Here in bizzaro land the average slub still thinks we have a choice and have freedom. While they wire tap us at will with no legal recourse and actual immunity given to the phone companies, the Zionists dictate our foreign policy, private interests control our economy and our courts are no longer constitutional.

Sad, but true.

Join the Ron Paul Revolution

Lod  posted on  2007-10-17   11:46:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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