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Title: Michael Ledeen: Iran was behind 9/11 !!!
Source: Daily Kos
URL Source: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/10/17/152616/38
Published: Oct 17, 2007
Author: "Florida Democrat"
Post Date: 2007-10-17 16:47:24 by aristeides
Keywords: None
Views: 593
Comments: 26

Michael Ledeen: Iran was behind 9/11 !!!

by Florida Democrat [Subscribe]
Wed Oct 17, 2007 at 12:44:04 PM PDT

To be perfectly fair, the exact words used in this AEI press release are these:

Indeed, as Ledeen demonstrates in The Iranian Time Bomb, the relationship between Iran and al Qaeda over the years has been so close that it is difficult today not to conclude that Iran was involved in the 9/11 attacks.

Just in case there was ANY doubt, what the neocons are pushing for in no uncertain terms:

There will never be adequate security in Iraq so long as Iran is in the grips of the theocratic fascist regime now in power. While it is understandable that policymakers do not want to face this mortal threat, there is no way out. The mullahs have proven they will attack us until they either win or lose.

Talking points (to be blasted on F-News in the coming weeks are these):

Iran has been the enemy all along. (Translation: "Bush was a good-intentioned moral person who was naturally fooled by Arab deception into thinking the real problem was in Afghanistan. We NOW know that Iraq was a mistake and the real issue has always been Iran. Let's not make a mistake AGAIN and attack the source of the problem.")

We are losing in Iraq because of Iran. (Translation: "You don't want to be a loser do you? You don't want a bunch of Arabs laughing at your manhood. It doesn't feel good to be a loser. Be strong, be a winner and bomb Iran, you'll feel better about yourself.")

Iran problem can only be solved by a regime change. (Translation: "Islamic fanatics like Bin Laden rule Iran. They do not understand civilized - aka "white" - things like diplomacy. They will just lie to make a fool out of us, so the only thing we can do to be SURE that these fanatics do not harm us is to kill them all. Therefore, we have to change the regime. It's the only responsible thing to do.")

We must vote for a Republican. (Translation: "These Arab fanatics will come here, kill your family and have sex with your daughters. Is that what you want? If you don't vote for someone who knows what to do with these sub-humans, America is OVER. Just look at all the Illegal immigrants.")

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#5. To: aristeides (#0)

The Iranian Time Bomb, the relationship between Iran and al Qaeda over the years has been so close that it is difficult today not to conclude that Iran was involved in the 9/11 attacks.

that statement is criminally irresponsible, imo.

christine  posted on  2007-10-17   17:30:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: christine (#5)

He was on C-Spans Washington Journal this morning ....I was moved to send C-Span a little note

This mornings edition of WJ showed your host lacks any knowledge of the history of the mid-east the fact he let his guest Michael Ledeen lie with impunity is a stan on what I thought was a objective and truthful network.....maybe it would serve you to do a study of Zionism which is not a religion but a ideology and whenever that term is raised your host and many others think it's anti-semitic and rush to cut the callers off...I can come to only two conclusions either you guys know about Zionism and are a cover for it or you have never done any research on the subject...FYI there are many self proclaimed Christian Zionist in America so it is not a "Jewish" thing...I suggest you watch a recent PBS show by Bill Moyers ...

PBS Bill Moyers sits down with Rabbi Michael Lerner, editor of Tikkun, a Jewish journal of politics, culture, and spirituality, and Dr. Timothy P. Weber, an evangelical Christian, historian, and the author of ON THE ROAD TO ARMAGEDDON: HOW EVANGELICALS BECAME ISRAEL'S BEST FRIEND, who discuss the growing Christian Zionist movement in America, from different religious perspectives.

www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/10052007/profile2.html

Rabbi Michael Lerner

Rabbi Michael Lerner is the editor of TIKKUN magazine, which he founded in 1986 as a journal of liberal and progressive Jewish thought. He holds doctorates in both philosophy and clinical psychology and has written 11 books, including JEWISH RENEWAL, SPIRIT MATTERS, and his most recent, THE LEFT HAND OF GOD.

Michael Lerner by Robin Holland Rabbi Lerner studied at the Jewish Theological Seminary and was a student and protégé of Abraham Joshua Heschel. He received an A.B. from Columbia. He received a Ph.D. in philosophy in 1972 from the University of California in Berkeley and a second Ph.d. in clinical psychology at the Wright Institute in Berkeley in 1977.

In 2002 Lerner founded the Tikkun Community, an "international interfaith organization dedicated to peace, justice, non-violence, generosity, caring, love and compassion," which he chairs with Cornel West. A recent project of the Community is the Network of Spiritual Progressives (NSP).

Dr. Timothy P. Weber

Dr. Timothy Weber is an evangelical Christian, author, and educator. For thirty years, Dr. Weber served as a teacher, scholar, vice president of academic affairs, and president in four institutions of graduate Michael Lerner by Robin Hollandtheological education, including teaching general church history and the history of American religion at Denver Seminary and Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in Louisville, Vice-President at Northern Baptist Theological Seminary in Lombard, IL, and President of Memphis Theological Seminary in Tennessee.

Timothy Weber has also been a member of the Panel of Advisors of the Auburn Center for the Study of Theological Education in New York, directing a project on "Faith and Finances," examining "how theological schools and denominational judicatories can better prepare ministry students as financial managers in local congregations."

He is the author of LIVING IN THE SHADOW OF THE SECOND COMING and more recently, ON THE ROAD TO ARMAGEDDON: HOW EVANGELICALS BECAME ISRAEL'S BEST FRIEND, which was nominated for a Grawemeyer Award in Religion. He holds a Ph.D. and M.A. from University of Chicago, a M.Div. from Fuller Theological Seminary and a B.A. from U.C.L.A.

Regards and hope you get a clue

robnoel  posted on  2007-10-19   17:18:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: robnoel (#20)

He was on C-Spans Washington Journal this morning ....I was moved to send C-Span a little note

I watched Ledeen on C-Span this morning.

C-Span advertised that "first time callers" were welcome.

For the first time in my life I called C-Span. I'm sure it's in the NSA logs.

I got a busy signal.

My only question was, "How much time did Ledeen spend in Iran?"

I'd like to know the answer to that question.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2007-10-19   21:37:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#26. To: Fred Mertz (#25)

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/US-Israel/Iran_Contra_Affair.html

Dakmar  posted on  2007-10-19 21:40:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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