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Title: (SEN. CHRIS) Dodd will hold FISA bill
Source: Daily Kos
URL Source: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/10/18/142714/95
Published: Oct 18, 2007
Author: "Kagro X"
Post Date: 2007-10-18 14:51:25 by aristeides
Keywords: None
Views: 80
Comments: 3

Dodd will hold FISA bill

by Kagro X
Thu Oct 18, 2007 at 11:29:48 AM PDT

http://action.chrisdodd.com/signUp.jsp?key=1570

The Military Commissions Act. Warrantless wiretapping. Shredding of Habeas Corpus. Torture. Extraordinary Rendition. Secret Prisons.

No more.

I have decided to place a "hold" on the latest FISA bill that would have included amnesty for telecommunications companies that enabled the President's assault on the Constitution by illegaly providing personal information on their customers without judicial authorization.

I said that I would do everything I could to stop this bill from passing, and I have.

It's about delivering results -- and as I've said before, the FIRST thing I will do after being sworn into office is restore the Constitution. But we shouldn't have to wait until then to prevent the further erosion of our country's most treasured document. That's why I am stopping this bill today.

Click on that link above to thank Senator Dodd for responding to your call.

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I hope this means that the bill giving retroactive immunity to the telecoms is stopped in its tracks.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2007-10-18   14:51:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: aristeides (#1)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2007-10-18   14:57:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: ghostdogtxn (#2)

I should probably know more about the authority (or lack thereof) of committee chairs...

according to this article I found, anyone can do it...

Congressional holds cowardly move By Charles N. Davis: Guest columnist June 2 2007 3:10 PM

Congress, apparently content to explore ever new depths in public disapproval, is on the verge of having a single member derail the most meaningful reform in years of the federal Freedom of Information Act.

How, you ask, when overwhelming majorities support the legislation in both the House and Senate?

The secret hold, of course. Ever heard of the secret hold? It’s a beauty — a real relic of the stuffed shirts of yesteryear, smoke-filled rooms and fat cats with stogies guffawing over the latest bamboozle of the taxpaying schmucks. Think country clubs, secret handshakes and bizarre rituals.

Members of the Society of Professional Journalists, the nation’s largest journalism-advocacy organization, used the power of the blogosphere to find out whose legislative bludgeon was buried in the back of open government. We called every senator, one by one, until at last — when it became clear he could hide no longer — Sen. Jon Kyl, R-Ariz., came blinking and grimacing into the sunlight and admitted it was he who placed a secret hold … on a bill that addresses secrecy in government. You can’t make this stuff up.

This is how it works in Washington, kids: Sen. Kyl — this year’s Secrecy Champion — has several as-yet-unstated objections to the Freedom of Information Reform Act, a truly wonderful bill that would significantly improve one of the strongest tools Americans have to supervise the inner workings of government and to hold elected officials accountable.

The bill has plenty of bipartisan support. It is the product of tireless work and advocacy by many open government and press freedom groups and fine legislative craftsmanship by Senate Judiciary Committee member John Cornyn, R- Texas, and Sen. Patrick Leahy, D-Vt. The U.S. House of Representatives in March approved a version of the bill with 80 Republicans joining 228 Democrats for a 308-117 vote.

The Senate Judiciary Committee then unanimously sent the measure forward to the full Senate for a vote.

In your civics book, this would be the moment where our senators hold a public debate on the merits and demerits of the legislation at hand, then vote. The votes are then counted, and if the senators who support the bill outnumber those who oppose it, well, you get the idea.

But no, not when senators, using an archaic parliamentarian parlor trick, can stop a bill dead in its tracks merely by telling their party’s Senate leader or secretary that they wish to place a hold on the bill. That’s when Sen. Kyl — who routinely charts a brave course on the immigration debate, and can often be counted on to reason rather than bloviate — slipped in the hold.

The practice of honoring secret holds has no basis in law and has no support in Senate rules. It’s a good-ol’-boy creation and another of the seemingly endless perks of the Senate, where the rules always seem to benefit the representatives far more than the pesky public.

Oh, I know what’s coming: the inevitable blathering about the world’s greatest deliberative body and its need for timeless soul-searching and “candor” and how terribly hard legislating can be. We’ll hear all about collegiality and efficiency and the grand traditions that make the Senate “special.”

Spare me. Tear down the whole argument in favor of secret holds, and it comes down to cowardice: It allows a senator to cower behind anonymity while signaling their dislike for a piece of legislation. More to the point, it takes what would be a single losing vote on the floor of the Senate and converts it, magically, into stoppage of legislation.

That’s awesome power with absolutely no accountability.

Sen. Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, who discloses his holds as a matter of practice, introduced an amendment in 2006 to force all senators to identify themselves when placing a hold on a bill. That proposal has gone nowhere fast. Are you surprised?

Charles N. Davis is executive director of the National Freedom of Information Coalition at the University of Missouri School of Journalism. Contact him at:daviscn@missouri.edu

kiki  posted on  2007-10-18   21:52:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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