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Title: Senate caves to Bush on telecom immunity
Source: Raw Story
URL Source: http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Senat ... s_to_Bush_on_telecom_1018.html
Published: Oct 18, 2007
Author: John Byrne
Post Date: 2007-10-19 09:10:50 by nolu_chan
Keywords: None
Views: 172
Comments: 14

Senate caves to Bush on telecom immunity
10/18/2007 @ 8:04 am
Filed by John Byrne

Despite an intense lobbying effort from privacy groups, the Senate sealed an expected deal this week with President Bush to grant major telecommunications companies -- including Verizon, Comcast and AT&T -- immunity from prosecution for their role in the President's warrantless eavesdropping program if they can "demonstrate to a court that they acted pursuant to a legal directive in helping the government with surveillance in the United States."

The legislation finalizes the deal between Senate Democrats and the Administration over the terms of the National Security Agency's domestic surveillance. It was first reported in the Washington Post.

Earlier, Bush had pushed for immunity to be included in a six-month update to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, but Democrats managed to strip that provision from the bill. He said he'd refuse to sign a bill that doesn't spare prosecution for the telecommunications industry.

News reports have fingered phone companies AT&T and Verizon as major players. Both firms are entangled in several class action lawsuits for handling over millions of customer files. Verizon recently admitted that it had honored requests for information at least 720 times without a court order.

Qwest, another telecommunications firm, allegedly stood up to the Administration and refused to participate, citing doubts about the program's legality.

Republicans who support telecom immunity say that companies were doing the nation good.

"They deserve our thanks, they don't deserve to be hit with a flurry of frivolous lawsuits," House Judiciary Committee ranking Republican Lamar Smith (R-TX) told Dow Jones.

Both the American Civil Liberties Union and the Electronic Frontier Foundation have argued in legal briefs that the companies broke the law by participating in an illegal program.

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#7. To: nolu_chan (#0)

"demonstrate to a court that they acted pursuant to a legal directive in helping the government with surveillance in the United States."

Since the whole activity is obviously illegal and not constitutionally authorized, how can it be a legal directive?

The fact that the administration is looking for legal protection for those who help it seems to indicate that they are even admitting that what they're doing probably isn't legal.

historian1944  posted on  2007-10-19   10:41:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: historian1944 (#7)

Coercion is a legal defense. If the telecoms persuasively argued that they were coerced into acting illegally by the government, they might be able to escape liability.

Of course, a lot of people wouldn't want them to do that.

aristeides  posted on  2007-10-19   11:08:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: aristeides, historian1944 (#8)

Coercion is a legal defense. If the telecoms persuasively argued that they were coerced into acting illegally by the government, they might be able to escape liability.

They might have a difficult time claiming coercion while proceeding without demanding a valid warrant.

Also, they would have to allege that somebody coerced them. It would have to be somebody with a great deal of power. With that much power at play, they can get immunity and be rewarded with government contracts to do what is asked of them.

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