[Home]  [Headlines]  [Latest Articles]  [Latest Comments]  [Post]  [Sign-in]  [Mail]  [Setup]  [Help] 

Status: Not Logged In; Sign In

Volcanic Risk and Phreatic (Groundwater) eruptions at Campi Flegrei in Italy

Russia Upgrades AGS-17 Automatic Grenade Launcher!

They told us the chickenpox vaccine was no big deal—just a routine jab to “protect” kids from a mild childhood illness

Pentagon creates new military border zone in Arizona

For over 200 years neurological damage from vaccines has been noted and documented

The killing of cardiologist in Gaza must be Indonesia's wake-up call

Marandi: Israel Prepares Proxies for Next War with Iran?

"Hitler Survived WW2 And I Brought Proof" Norman Ohler STUNS Joe Rogan

CIA Finally Admits a Pyschological Warfare Agent from the Agency “Came into Contact” with Lee Harvey Oswald before JFK’s Assassination

CNN Stunned As Majority Of Americans Back Trump's Mass Deportation Plan

Israeli VS Palestinian Connections to the Land of Israel-Palestine

Israel Just Lost Billions - Haifa and IMEC

This Is The Income A Family Needs To Be Middle Class, By State

One Big Beautiful Bubble": Hartnett Warns US Debt Will Exceed $50 Trillion By 2032

These Are The Most Stolen Cars In Every US State

Earth Changes Summary - June 2025: Extreme Weather, Planetary Upheaval,

China’s Tofu-Dreg High-Speed Rail Station Ceiling Suddenly Floods, Steel Bars Snap

Russia Moves to Nationalize Country's Third Largest Gold Mining Firm

Britain must prepare for civil war | David Betz

The New MAGA Turf War Over National Intelligence

Happy fourth of july

The Empire Has Accidentally Caused The Rebirth Of Real Counterculture In The West

Workers install 'Alligator Alcatraz' sign for Florida immigration detention center

The Biggest Financial Collapse in China’s History Is Here, More Terrifying Than Evergrande!

Lightning

Cash Jordan NYC Courthouse EMPTIED... ICE Deports 'Entire Building

Trump Sparks Domestic Labor Renaissance: Native-Born Workers Surge To Record High As Foreign-Born Plunge

Mister Roberts (1965)

WE BROKE HIM!! [Early weekend BS/nonsense thread]

I'm going to send DOGE after Elon." -Trump


Activism
See other Activism Articles

Title: Back to where we belong
Source: me
URL Source: http://none
Published: Jun 4, 2005
Author: racj42
Post Date: 2005-06-04 23:44:29 by rack42
Keywords: belong, where, Back
Views: 349
Comments: 7

Well, how will we defend our freedom?

I've held the belief that at least 90% of the US population is terminally stupid.

Anyone got a plan to get us back to the founder's vision?

Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread  


TopPage UpFull ThreadPage DownBottom/Latest

Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 5.

#1. To: rack42 (#0)

Anyone got a plan to get us back to the founder's vision?

I do my job getting my clients their money, fix up my own property to my liking, and live my life the way I see fit as much as possible/feasible.

Dakmar  posted on  2005-06-04   23:48:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Dakmar (#1)

The founders didn't have any "vision". They were classically educated men born into the culture of English Common Law. They set about to create a government that would lesson or minimize the dangers that all Republics face.

They failed. We should admit that. The Articles of Confederation actually offered a far better bulkwark against a central government. It is time to admit that the Constitution itself is a deeply flawed document and has over and over lent itself to centralizing philosophies, some very different from each other- but at the end of the day- the Constitution, as a docuemnt that protects our liberties and restricts government power- has failed- or actually we have failed.

That we have any semblance of liberty or freedoms left is merely because culturally some things are still taboo for our govenrment to do, but with poor education even those taboos are fast disappearing- like "freedom of the press". Further- that our current federal power isn't more repressive is only because it doesn't feel the need to be. Certainly nothing is stopping it from becoming more repressive if it so wants- especially not a piece of paper like the Constituion.

It is, after all, a piece of paper. In order for it to work, the habits and mores of a free citezenry are needed. We have neither the habits or mores any longer much less the education or even basic historical understanding that all the founders expected every voter to have (and they didn't expect voters to be everyone who achieved the stunning accomplishment of managing to live to their 18th birthday.)

What should be done? If you mean "action" of a collective national sort to "save" or "Restore" the Constition I would have very little faith in such a movement. In fact it is doomed to fail. I basically distrust any large political organziation, even one dedicated to "Restoring the constitution". Generally- large orgs or movements like that offer the excuse to not really do anything yourself.

Plus I feel the inevitable is the inevitable. Macro historical forces can't be altered. It is vanity to try. Basically what we all should do- is focus on the micro- forget about DC, forget about "restoring the constitution", heck- forget about even getting a flat tax. Not going to happen. DC will sooner fall and burn before the Constitution ever means what is says again.

Instead? Run for town selectman. Deal with the pot holes. Join your church group- make your presence know on the local level. Do what you can to be a decent person who upholds the values of a free person. Lead by example in your daily lives. Look to the physical world directly around you- real people- and engage that world. Don't waste your time and energy on Macro events.

Create a world and network around you that will protect you from the malestrom to come.

Burkeman1  posted on  2005-06-05   1:11:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Burkeman1, christine (#2)

[Nuked]

toddbrendanfahey  posted on  2005-06-05   9:17:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: toddbrendanfahey (#4)

Thank you, Todd, that was very gracious.

christine  posted on  2005-06-05   10:32:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


Replies to Comment # 5.

        There are no replies to Comment # 5.


End Trace Mode for Comment # 5.

TopPage UpFull ThreadPage DownBottom/Latest


[Home]  [Headlines]  [Latest Articles]  [Latest Comments]  [Post]  [Sign-in]  [Mail]  [Setup]  [Help]