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Title: Clinton says she would cough up powers Bush/Cheney have grabbed
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NY Times/Guardian
URL Source: http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/us/ ... ve-Power.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
Published: Oct 23, 2007
Author: AP
Post Date: 2007-10-23 16:50:05 by Mekons4
Keywords: None
Views: 367
Comments: 28
NEW YORK (AP) -- If elected president in 2008, Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton would consider giving up some of the executive powers President Bush and Vice President Cheney have assumed since taking office. In an interview published Tuesday in Guardian America, a Web site run by the London-based Guardian newspaper, Clinton denounced the Bush Administration's push to concentrate more power in the White House as a ''power grab'' not supported by the Constitution. Asked if she would consider giving up some of those powers if she were president, Clinton replied, ''Oh, absolutely ... I mean, that has to be part of the review that I undertake when I get to the White House, and I intend to do that.'' Since the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, Bush and Cheney have taken several steps to expand presidential authority and diminish the role of Congress and the federal judiciary. Among other things, they have pushed for warrantless wiretapping of terrorist suspects and the use of ''signing statements'' to justify ignoring or defying laws enacted by Congress. In the interview, Clinton noted that other presidents, including Abraham Lincoln, had taken on new presidential powers but had gone back to Congress later to ratify their actions. Bush and Cheney had taken a different course, she said. ''There were a lot of actions which they took that were clearly beyond any power the Congress would have granted, or that in my view was inherent in the Constitution,'' Clinton said. ''There were other actions they've taken which could have obtained Congressional authorization but they deliberately chose not to pursue it as a matter of principle.'' (Let the flame war begin...)
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#1. To: Mekons4 (#0)
What a steaming pile of BS...ROTFLMAO!!!
To my knowledge, NO pres has ever relinquished ANY power.
You know why Hillary doesn't wear underwear? So she can get a better grip on her brookstick. A woman told me that joke.
"He is a very shallow critic who cannot see an eternal rebel in the heart of a conservative." - G.K. Chesterton
Consider??? Liar.
Pure bullshit. Remember when Billy Bob was trying to justify higher taxes and said that Americans couldn't be trusted to spend their own money? Talk about the ruling class elite.
Remember when Bush, running for president in 2000, said he would institute a humble foreign policy for America?
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
Bush and Cheney did follow one tradition when they did not pursue investigations against the previous administration. President Hillary will undoubtedly return the favor.
There was an article posted here that stated that a broken campaign promises were exempt from prosecution I cant locate it at the moment... I'll just say Im highly skeptical.
Of course they are. Promises mean nothing. Otherwise, we'd be sending Smirk chewing gum and cigs at a nice warm federal prison. Still, better than the guy who promises to make things WORSE. I'm voting for Obama, and will reluctantly vote for Hillary if I must. But at least this is now a topic of discussion and everyone else is going to be forced to answer the question. Remember, I just post em, I don't write em.
Honi soit qui mal y pense
I find it hard to believe that anyone who really cares about presidential power-grabs is going to vote for Hillary based on this. Pretty lame attempt at wooing the Ron Paul Democrats (because who else gives a fuck?).
Over the guy who promises a fascist state that would give Cheney a woodie? Yeah, I'll vote for her every time, if I have no choice.
Honi soit qui mal y pense
I wouldn't vote for Hillary under any circumstances. None.
Well, if I was voting in the Democratic primary (I assume that you are), Hillary Clinton would NOT be my first choice. Or even second or third. In fact, I'm not sure there is a Democrat running who would be worse. Having said that, unless Paul was the Republican nominee, I think MOST of the Democrats running, including Hillary, would defeat the Republican.
Same here :P Well I know one thing I refuse to vote for a party person.. period no matter which party .. been there done that.. I wrote Ron Paul in last election.. I wont hold my nose and vote again for certain.
In the primary, she's not even an option. Obama, Gravel, Kucinich, Biden, even Edwards. Everyone thinks she has this in the bag, but it's just not true. Many, like me, are not Hillary fans, and if one of the others can grab a couple of the early primaries, there will be a rush for the exit. I hope.
Honi soit qui mal y pense
Very good.
There are people that study election results for abnormalities. One that always interested me was the number of votes from some district and the number of blanks left for different offices. For instance locally perhaps ten thousand people voted in a presidential election, but only 9500 voted for president. That means 500 people refused to vote for whatever reason.
..hmm strange..
Zip... From such statistics much good information is gleaned. Like you and me, there has been a growing disenchantment with voting for losers in presidential elections. If Paul is not on the ballot, I will leave it blank.
It's a running joke and sort of a Washington insider contest to see if they can get us to buy "just one more lie" ... they've been playing this game for about 100 years, laughing hysterically.
"The mighty are only mighty because we are on our knees. Let us rise!" --Camille Desmoulins
Write him in.. I have :P
That sounds a little too much like vote-tampering for my taste.
Honi soit qui mal y pense
Vote tampering??? Perhaps you misunderstand.
You know what is really funny? What is really funny is when our DC based political pundits then sit around their roundtables on Sunday mornings and praise A Beltway annointed princess like Hillary for her ability to lie and "triangulate".
Lieing BITCH.
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition Perhaps you misunderstand. A major indicator of a fraudulent election is when a significant number of voters don't register a vote for the top offices. Very few people go to the polls to not vote. If they omit votes, it's usually down at the bottom of the ballot. Some people may register a no-vote in protest, but usually they just write in a favored candidate or Mickey Mouse. Leaving the top of the ticket blank rarely happens. Certainly not 500 in one precinct.
Honi soit qui mal y pense
ping
Fox News Channel is the television version of Free Republic
I knew you did not understand what you were reading.
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#2. To: Mekons4 (#0)
#3. To: Mekons4 (#0)
#4. To: Mekons4 (#0)
Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton would consider giving up some
#5. To: Mekons4 (#0)
#6. To: Mekons4 (#0)
#7. To: Mekons4 (#0)
Bush and Cheney had taken a different course, she said.
I've already said too much.
#8. To: Mekons4 (#0)
#9. To: Zipporah (#8)
There was an article posted here that stated that a broken campaign promises were exempt from prosecution I cant locate it at the moment... I'll just say Im highly skeptical.
#10. To: Mekons4 (#0)
From Two Party System... ...to Two Family System.
#11. To: PnbC (#10)
#12. To: Mekons4 (#9)
will reluctantly vote for Hillary if I must
#13. To: Mekons4 (#11)
From Two Party System... ...to Two Family System.
#14. To: Mekons4 (#9)
Remember, I just post em, I don't write em.
#15. To: PnbC (#13)
#16. To: Zipporah (#14)
I wont hold my nose and vote again for certain.
#17. To: Zipporah (#14)
Well I know one thing I refuse to vote for a party person.
#18. To: Cynicom (#17)
#19. To: Zipporah (#18)
#20. To: Mekons4 (#0)
#21. To: Cynicom (#19)
If Paul is not on the ballot, I will leave it blank.
#22. To: Cynicom (#17)
#23. To: Mekons4 (#22)
#24. To: Arete (#5)
#25. To: Mekons4 (#0)
Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton would consider giving up some of the executive powers President Bush and Vice President Cheney have assumed since taking office.
"There is no 'legitimate' Corporation by virtue of it's very legal definition and purpose."
-- IndieTx
#26. To: Cynicom (#23)
Vote tampering???
#27. To: Mekons4, *libertarians* (#0)
#28. To: Mekons4 (#26)
Perhaps you misunderstand.
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