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Title: Ill-informed Fox anchors spread fears of al Qaeda link to California fires
Source: Raw Story
URL Source: http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Fox_a ... theory_that_CA_fires_1024.html
Published: Oct 24, 2007
Author: David Edwards and Nick Juliano
Post Date: 2007-10-24 15:13:30 by aristeides
Keywords: None
Views: 263
Comments: 12

Ill-informed Fox anchors spread fears of al Qaeda link to California fires

David Edwards and Nick Juliano
Published: Wednesday October 24, 2007

Questionable 4-year-old FBI memo presented as new to stoke terror fears

Did al Qaeda start the California wildfires?

As more than a million people escaped the flames, Fox News anchors couldn't help speculating about a terrorism link to the blazes ravaging southern California.

"I've heard some people talk about this a little bit to me, but have you heard anybody suggest that this could be some form of terrorism," Fox & Friends co-host Steve Doocy asked Wednesday morning.

Correspondent Adam Housley said he's received "hundreds of comments" from readers of his Fox News blog speculating about a link to terrorism.

Investigators have determined that one 15,000 acre fire in Orange County was deliberately set, and Housley reported that authorities arrested one man who set a hillside on fire. Causes of most other fires are still being investigated, and there has been little speculation beyond Fox News about a terror plot.

A review of Housley's blog posts about the fire reveals that his characterization of the terror fears perhaps was inflated.

Of his 15 posts on the fires, just two included speculation from commenters about a terrorism link.

"Is anyone asking how these fires started? I see no comments or speculations," observed "clyde teeter" in response to a post Tuesday. "Could it be linked to illegal alien misadventure on the border [...] Terrorism? ... If you are a journalist, then these questions need to be asked and investigated. Your coverage is admirable but the emotional journalism about the loss of peoples homes is not helping to find the causes."

Fox & Friends co-host Judge Andrew Napolitano tried to serve as the voice of reason.

"That's a fear, Adam, but is there any evidence of it?" the judge asked.

Such skepticism could not last, though.

Later Wednesday, Fox anchors returned to fanning the terror fears, digging up a four-year-old FBI memo and presenting it as new information relating to an al Qaeda link to the fires.

In June of 2003, FBI agents in Denver detailed an al Qaeda detainee's discussion of a plot to set forest fires around the western United States, although investigators couldn't determine whether the detainee was telling the truth, and his plot did not include setting fires in California.

Such small discrepancies in dates and details proved to be no obstacles for Fox anchors, who reported that the memo was from "late June of this year" and "is just popping up this morning."

The memo was first reported by the Arizona Republic in July 2003, although a Fox anchor said it was reported "five days ago." That confusion seems to stem from an inability to read the date on an Associated Press account of the memo from the time it was first reported.

A July 11, 2003, AP story, still available online via USA Today, reported, "The contents of the June 25 memo from the FBI's Denver office were reported Friday by The Arizona Republic."

On Fox, that information became, "The June 25 memo from the FBI's Denver offices was reported three days ago, excuse me five days ago, by the Arizona Republic."

Further distorting the report, Fox failed to mention a key caveat from the 2003 AP story they appear to have ripped from.

"Rose Davis, a spokeswoman for the National Interagency Fire Center in Boise, told The Associated Press that officials there took note of the warning but didn't see a need to act further on it."

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Partial Transcript (via ThinkProgress):

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DOOCY: You’re looking live at pictures from San Diego — Santiago, CA, where the wildfires continue. We were talking earlier in today’s telecast with Adam Housley and apparently police officers in a hovering helicopter saw a guy starting one of these fires. And Allison Allison Camerota, an FBI memo from late in June of this year is popping up this morning and it is ominous.

CAMEROTA: This actually has happened for many years in the past as well. An FBI sent out to local law-enforcement said that an al Qaeda detainee had given them some information that the next wave of terrorism could be in the form of setting wild fires. Adam Housley said lots of people on his block were asking him about it. Obviously this is something the FBI has looked into. They will continue to investigate it.

CARLSON: If they have this person in custody it probably won’t take long to be able to develop a link if there is one.

KILMEADE: A June 25 memo from the FBI’s Denver offices reported three days ago, excuse me, five days ago, by the Arizona Republic, that is a newspaper, they have been carrying the story and they continue to expand upon it.

DOOCY: Brian, the plot they say, according to this detainee, and they don’t know if the detainee is telling the truth. The plot was to set three or four wildfires. But they don’t mention California. They mention Colorado, Montana, Utah, and Wyoming. We do know for a fact that a number of the fires in southern California are of a suspicious nature and they are investigating arson.

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#1. To: aristeides (#0)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2007-10-24   15:28:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: aristeides (#0)

Lessee, the biggest fire ever in Arizon was started by a (gasp) firefighter. Lots of folks have lots of motivation. I could make an argument for why it's beneficial to the BushCheneyInc gang.

angle  posted on  2007-10-24   15:29:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: aristeides (#0)

The stupids didn't read the memo:

IT'S IRAN now!!!!!

Get it?

IT'S IRAN!!!!

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2007-10-24   15:40:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: aristeides (#0)

The neo-cons and their captive FOXNews network are desperate to keep the public's waning attention focused on the so-called "War on Terror": releases of "bin Laden videos" just isn't doing the trick any more.

We've had bad fire seasons in Southern California before: 1993 and 2003 are prominent in my mind. The 1993 Laguna Canyon fire was supposedly set by a Mexican national, who turned out to be a schizo who'd say anything. A smaller brush fire that broke out near my house that same season turned out to have been set by some local rich white brats. Nobody talked about "terrorist" origins for the 1993 or the post 9/11 2003 fires either, even though it appeared that some of the latter were also deliberately set.

"Aux armes, citoyens! Formez vos bataillons! Marchons! Marchons! Qu'un sang impur abreuve nos sillons!"

Peetie Wheatstraw  posted on  2007-10-24   15:40:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#3)

Michael Ledeen: Iran Was Behind 9/11!!!

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2007-10-24   15:45:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: aristeides (#0)

There was a psychic on Coast-to-Coast this week saying it was terrorists.

That's about the level of FoxNews.


I've already said too much.

MUDDOG  posted on  2007-10-24   17:12:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: ghostdogtxn (#1)

Lying sacks of crap.

Beat me to it. I can see the morning meeting with Ailes. "How can we turn this into a right-wing political issue? How can we scare the sheep a little more? How can we turn this to our sacred President's advantage? Think, people, think!"

Honi soit qui mal y pense

Mekons4  posted on  2007-10-24   17:35:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: aristeides (#0)

They hate us for our trees?

" Junk is the ideal product... the ultimate merchandise. No sales talk necessary. The client will crawl through a sewer and beg to buy." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2007-10-24   17:42:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: aristeides (#0)

Fox News does this all the time with every train derailment, bridge collapse, forest fire, tanker truck explosion, West Nile Virus outbreaks (blamed on Saddam), contaminated food products . . . endless really.

Their M.O. when some accident or disaster occurs is to immediately float the "investigators are looking into possible terrorist connections" story. Never do they quote any of these "investigators." It is just something they make up for nearly any disaster or accident. The point is maintaining a constant state of fear and anxiety. Reminds me of Soviet Media in the 30's- any time a machine broke down in a factory or a crop yield fell short- it was the work of "sabatuers" or "wreckers" or "counter revolutionaries". Nothing was ever an accident- it had to be a "plot."

The Daily Burkeman1

Burkeman1  posted on  2007-10-24   19:12:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: aristeides (#0)

Bush - Stalin segodnya! Bush is the Stalin of today!

"Aux armes, citoyens! Formez vos bataillons! Marchons! Marchons! Qu'un sang impur abreuve nos sillons!"

Peetie Wheatstraw  posted on  2007-10-24   20:57:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: aristeides (#0)

Ill-informed Fox anchors spread fears of al Qaeda link to California fires

... of course.

Ce n'est pas pour toujours. ‡

Amroth  posted on  2007-10-25   11:18:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: aristeides (#0)

If a Fox News anchor stubs his or her toe in the morning, he thinks Al Quaeda is behind it. Or at least he/she is paid to say so.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2007-10-30   17:12:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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